Thursday, September 9, 2004 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Steven (Grenadier)

(Elias’ arrival time is 14 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

STEVEN: Oh, my goodness! Good morning! (Both laugh) This is Elias, correct?

ELIAS: Yes!

STEVEN: Great! Awesome! Well, Elias, it’s wonderful to talk with you.

ELIAS: And you also. (Chuckles)

STEVEN: (Laughs) I have some questions for you, of course.

ELIAS: Very well.

STEVEN: Well, as you know, I’ve been involved with the Shift in consciousness, and one of the primary questions I wanted to ask you is about where I am now. Obviously, I’ve been involved in recognizing my truths. Would this be an accurate assessment?

ELIAS: Yes.

STEVEN: I would just like to know where, so to speak, I am now, also in terms of directing more of what I want in association... That’s sort of a confusing question, but perhaps you got the gist of what I’m talking about. (Elias chuckles) I want to know where I am now in my addressing to my truths.

ELIAS: And where ARE you? (Both laugh)

STEVEN: In a slight state of uncertainty. But in many ways, though, I’ve been allowing myself to become aware of what I’m doing. Discovering that emotions are communications, that was quite interesting; it’s still quite interesting. But I want to direct and allow more of what I want now.

ELIAS: And what are you doing?

STEVEN: What I’m doing is creating some doubtfulness. In some areas I allow what I want, but not in other areas. That’s where I kind of go into a discounting of myself at times.

ELIAS: I am aware, and what have you assessed that you have recognized as your truths thus far?

STEVEN: My truths? That’s an excellent question, Elias.

ELIAS: (Humorously) Thank you!

STEVEN: There’s many I recognize, and that was quite amusing about the elusive truths that you pointed out recently to the folks in Vienna. Let’s talk about specifics with money. I’ve been round and round and round and round with this specific topic, mainly about how I don’t allow myself to generate, just... Well, I have, but I don’t know, Elias! (Laughs) I will admit I’m not clear. And with my music endeavors, I am not allowing that also throughout my focus, which kind of... I don’t know.

ELIAS: And what is your recognition or your assessment of what belief influences your lack in generating what you want?

STEVEN: I’m not quite clear, even after all of this, so to speak. I’m not quite clear if there’s one belief or if there’s an influence of many of them. Now, here’s the thing. I say I would like to have these things but I need to be doing this in order to get it. So I do these things to get it, i.e., a job, but apparently, recently, I’ve created not sustaining one! (Laughs) In terms of allowing me to see how influential that belief is, but it may not necessarily be the case in terms of attainment of what I want.

ELIAS: First of all, let us examine what your belief is concerning your creative expression in association with music and what you do and how that influences you. I may express to you that you incorporate a belief concerning music, that you must be of a specific caliber to be incorporating your talent to generate money.

Now; in this, as you incorporate that expressed belief, what you do is you compare yourself with other individuals that are musicians. As you compare, you discount yourself. Therefore, you create obstacles, and you do not allow yourself to express your creativity fully. Therefore, you do not attempt to actually move into an expression of generating your creativity to its capacity. Therefore, as you present yourself to other individuals, they respond to the energy that you are projecting, and the energy that you are projecting is discounting and comparing. Therefore, that is received, and it is reflected.

STEVEN: I wasn’t aware of that! (Laughs) There have been time frameworks where I feel like I was moving in that direction, although I’m sure there was some other issues I was addressing to that kind of created these obstacles. But I wasn’t aware that I was still moving in that direction, but maybe I am aware now. I kind of feel it.

ELIAS: Let me also express to you, many times individuals may be incorporating expressed beliefs and choosing different influences of those beliefs in different time frameworks, and therefore, also, creating different outcomes and different perceptions. But that is not to say that the belief is gone. It continues, but the individual may be choosing different influences that may be more in keeping with the individual’s preferences and more allowing of themselves to be generating what they want, and you also have experienced this.

Now; in this time framework, many, many individuals are experiencing some of these expressed beliefs that may be some of their individual truths. They are re-experiencing them in manners that are familiar but in manners which they have not been experiencing for an extended time framework. This is associated with this wave addressing to truths. In this, each individual may generate an experience that triggers that familiar response and familiar influences that are not necessarily comfortable.

This is purposeful, for it allows you to genuinely be aware that you actually are not eliminating or changing your beliefs; they continue. You are altering what influences you choose and allowing yourself to view and be aware of what you are actually doing. This also is purposeful, for it is empowering. It allows you to view your choices and be aware of what you are actually doing or what you are not doing, and therefore evaluate what you are generating and incorporate the ability to view other choices.

Now; in this, assess what you are actually doing presently.

STEVEN: Presently, I’m feeling different energy as I’m listening to you. Presently now, I’m speaking with you.

ELIAS: Correct. And what also are you doing?

STEVEN: I have a subjective awareness of it, but feelings, really.

ELIAS: And what are your feelings?

STEVEN: I wasn’t aware of this, so it was like a slight kind of uncomfortableness, uncertainty. Elias, just recently, last Wednesday, I created this thickness in my energy, and there were occasions where, not having been frequent, but occasions when there was a day of feeling this very tremendous thick energy and not being (inaudible). Obviously, I was generating it.

ELIAS: Yes.

STEVEN: Well, it was peculiar that I wasn’t able to turn it or to redirect the energy.

ELIAS: It is not necessarily peculiar. I may express to you that this type of experience is being expressed with many individuals in this time framework, for this is addressing to truths. For as I have expressed previously, these truths are not being presented intellectually but experientially.

Now; let me also express to you that at times individuals may be generating certain experiences in an attempt to be recognizing some of their truths, but their truths have become so familiar that they become an ongoing expression that is not noticed. It is being expressed continuously, but it has been generated for such an ongoing time framework that the individual, such as yourself, does not notice that it is being expressed. In a manner of speaking, it is similar to an individual that generates a particular expression of physical tension, and in generating that tension for an ongoing time framework, perhaps years, the individual no longer notices and does not even actually feel that physical tension, for it has become so very familiar that it merely is. And the physical...

STEVEN: I create in a similar manner, in some respects?

ELIAS: Yes. For this element of comparison within you has become so familiar that for the most part you do not recognize that you are even generating that comparison. Also, you generate an anxiety in a doubt of yourself and of your ability to actually generate what you want. You also generate an anxiety associated with a fear of not allowing yourself to accomplish or not incorporating the ability to accomplish, therefore the fear of both succeeding and the responsibility of success, and of failure and the discounting of failure, and how you shall be perceived by other individuals if you are not accomplishing. Therefore, there is also a factor of approval.

STEVEN: I’ve noticed that especially from certain family members.

ELIAS: There is also a comparison of creativity in association with family, and a measurement of yourself as not measuring as valuable as other individuals.

This comparison element is ongoing and is very influencing, for as you continue to compare and are not even noticing, you are generating automatic responses, and those automatic responses are associated with discounting yourself. As you continue to express in that manner, you do not allow yourself the freedom of your own creative expression, allowing that to bloom and allowing yourself to express that in a successful manner.

Even within this now, as I inquire of you what are you doing, you express to myself, “I am speaking with you.” Yes, you are, but what are you also doing? You are generating signals. What are those signals? Anxiety and tension. And what is the message associated with those signals? That you are apprehensive; you are doubting of yourself; you are doubting even within your conversation with myself that there may be a potential or a possibility that I also shall discount you and shall reflect your energy to you as you are accustomed to.

That is all associated with what you are NOT doing, which is what you are doing. What you are not doing is not allowing yourself to fully express your own creativity without comparison and without expectations.

STEVEN: I see. I didn’t realize that comparison was such an influencing element.

ELIAS: It is STRONGLY influencing.

STEVEN: In terms of comparing myself with what others have accomplished or what they possess, is that it?

ELIAS: Partially, and comparing with what is successful and what is not, comparing abilities and what classifies abilities and creativity as good enough and what is not good enough, comparing how often you engage your craft and how often it SHOULD be engaged, that if you are successful, you must be devoting certain quantities of time in the development and the practice of your craft, and if you are not, you are not generating in a successful manner, and therefore, you are not good enough at expressing your craft. There are many, many, many comparisons that you generate.

STEVEN: I wasn’t aware. Oh, my goodness! This is quite enlightening.

ELIAS: There are also comparisons in association with money, and that other individuals generate this more successfully than do you. This action of comparing has become so very automatic and so consistent that it moves in every aspect of your focus. Every direction that you move within, or that you do not allow yourself to move within, is influenced by this comparing.

STEVEN: My goodness. What can I do, then, to alleviate this comparison?

ELIAS: First of all, I shall express to you an exercise that you may incorporate for a time framework of one week. Within this one week, in each day, notice and document each time you are generating any type of comparison in any manner in association with any subject.

Now; initially within your initial days, you may experience some challenge with that, for as I have expressed, this has become automatic, and automatic responses are challenging to notice. But if you are genuinely engaging this action, you shall begin in increments to notice more and more, and you shall begin to notice more frequently how very often you are generating this action of comparing. It matters not whether you view the comparison to be significant or insignificant. It is important that you merely notice.

Now; in this noticing, do not discount yourself and do not necessarily attempt to change what you are doing. That is not the point of this exercise. The point of this exercise is to allow yourself to become aware.

Now; as you are noticing each moment that you are generating some type of comparison, as you continue with the exercise and you begin to generate more noticing, at that point I suggest to you that as you notice each comparison, attempt to allow yourself to identify one effect of how that comparing hinders you or restricts you. For this also shall allow you to be more aware of what you are actually doing, and as I expressed previously, many times what you are doing is not doing.

STEVEN: Is not doing?

ELIAS: Correct. If you are NOT engaging an action, you are preventing, and that is an action also, and that is an action of doing.

STEVEN: (Laughs) I understand.

ELIAS: You are...

STEVEN: I believe I do. I did want to ask you about the nature of doing and not doing, and perhaps whether if you’re not doing something then it won’t... You know, that a physical action must be taken in order for a desired want to be achieved. Are you understanding what I’m saying?

ELIAS: Yes, I am understanding. And in a manner of speaking, yes, you are correct. But it is not as black and white as you perceive it to be, for many times individuals do not actually recognize that they are incorporating an actual action in what they perceive to be a nonaction.

As an example in association with money, an individual may be incorporating a certain amount of money and perceive themselves to not be doing any action with that money. It may be set in a box. Therefore, it is being kept in the box, and the individual may express to themselves that the money is in the box and they are not physically doing any action with the money. That not doing is also a doing. They are incorporating the action, the doing, of keeping the money in the box, but that does not appear to be an action surfacely.

This is what I am expressing, to allow yourself to move beyond the surface and genuinely evaluate what you are doing in what appears to be a non-doing. In that, as you begin to recognize what you are doing in that manner, this allows you to evaluate what motivates what you are doing, as in the situation with the money in the box and the individual that is incorporating the doing of keeping the money in the box.

Once recognizing that, the individual may evaluate what is motivating that action of keeping the money in the box. Perhaps it is a fear that if the individual incorporates a different type of doing with the money that this will deplete what they have, and therefore also perhaps diminish what they generate. Therefore, if they continue doing, keeping the money in the box, there is a sense of safety, for there is a knowing of what they have.

This is also significant, for in this exercise, these types of elements of your reality shall also begin to become more clear. Individuals many, many times do not recognize what they have and do not appreciate what they HAVE generated, what they HAVE accomplished, for they are too very busy paying attention to what they perceive they do not have.

STEVEN: I understand. I’m certain that I incorporate that to a degree. It’s just that I have these abilities... But no, you pointed it out very eloquently, actually. There is this part of me that says I have these abilities of music and all of this, and I am quite genuinely... I don’t hold as much appreciation as I suppose I quote/unquote should. Where I’ve moved in the Shift I think has been significant, but I was not aware of my comparison, of my automatic association with comparisons.

ELIAS: Let me also express to you, within this time framework that you may be engaging this exercise, attempt in different moments to allow yourself somewhat small increments of time in which you engage your music freely with no expectation, with no comparison, and merely allow yourself to incorporate a brief time framework in which you allow an entirely free flow of energy.

In that, DO NOT COMPARE with the time frameworks in which you are not allowing that, but merely allow yourself to notice how your energy feels in those moments and how you feel in that flow. For in that flow, that is a time framework in which you objectively allow an expression of being aware of a subjective movement.

STEVEN: I see. I can’t believe I’m speaking with you, by the way! It’s quite interesting. (Elias laughs) Actually, I have some other questions for you.

ELIAS: Very well.

STEVEN: The comparison thing just blew me away. (Elias laughs) How many focuses of attention do I have in physical dimension?

ELIAS: Nine hundred seventy-seven.

STEVEN: My goodness! So Grenadier is quite creative, as many essences are. (Elias laughs) And Elias, how many in this time framework?

ELIAS: Five.

STEVEN: Have any disengaged at any point? Do I have more than just five?

ELIAS: You have overlapping focuses, which most individuals do, and therefore those overlapping focuses would disengage at some point within your focus and some would emerge within your focus.

STEVEN: I have another 15 minutes, so I guess in the remainder I want to ask you about different things. Okay?

ELIAS: Very well.

STEVEN: The nature of observing focuses or this sort of phenomena, am I engaged with that? I don’t know exactly what to ask in terms of that, but...

ELIAS: You engage the action of being an observing essence? Yes.

STEVEN: Do I hold what would be called famous focuses?

ELIAS: Yes.

STEVEN: And who would they be?

ELIAS: And I shall challenge you to investigate!

STEVEN: (Laughs) Elias, I have enough on my plate right now!

ELIAS: Ah, the victim! (Both laugh) Let me be reminding you, movement through your different directions may be accomplished much more easily if you are expressing playfulness, and investigating other focuses may be an avenue to engage playfulness. (Laughs) It is perhaps likened to a game, and therefore may incorporate fun rather than work and allow you also to practice listening to your impressions.

STEVEN: I was going to ask you about some musicians, because with this whole comparison thing... Now, this one particular individual who I allowed to be pretty affecting in my focus during a time framework, I just wanted to ask you about him. His name is Elliot S. He chose to disengage last year in October, and what I wanted to know is, first of all, have we been involved in other focuses?

ELIAS: Yes, and you also engage counterpart action.

STEVEN: Oh God! But we’re not of the same essence, correct?

ELIAS: No.

STEVEN: Also my impression is that he disengaged because he didn’t want to participate in this wave. Is that correct, or am I...

ELIAS: Somewhat, yes.

STEVEN: And he’s in transition, still?

ELIAS: Not yet — continuing to express an objective awareness and perception, and generating objective imagery in association with physical reality.

STEVEN: I see. So has he recognized me associating with him at any point?

ELIAS: Somewhat; not clearly, but somewhat. As I have expressed, the individual is not engaging transition yet, and therefore is incorporating some awareness that he is not participating within actual physical focus any longer, but incorporates some confusion in association with that. For he continues to be expressing objective imagery, and therefore, it is somewhat confusing. But there is somewhat of a recognition of other energies — yours.

STEVEN: Quite affecting, his musical expressions. With many of the individuals that I’ve been listening to while in my focus, his is a very extreme passion for, or about.

ELIAS: I may also express to you that you may tap into energy deposits of other musicians and incorporate that energy as an encouragement with yourself. Rather than comparing, allow yourself to merge and benefit from the other energies of other musicians.

STEVEN: I’ve done that from time to time but not with any consistency.

ELIAS: Yes.

STEVEN: The last thing about musicians — there’s this particular person called Marvin, who always expresses his fondness for your focus Oscar Wilde. I just want to know what’s the connection there. I’ve always been into his music, of course. What’s going on there?

ELIAS: That individual incorporates several focuses with myself, and also incorporates a focus in that time framework and expressed an admiration...

STEVEN: For him.

ELIAS: Yes.

STEVEN: I hold focuses with you as well, correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

STEVEN: I would ask, but you would probably say investigate, correct? (Elias laughs)

I have a few more questions for you. This is just regarding essence names and family of certain individuals. First of all, the individual designated as my father, his essence name, family and alignment, please.

ELIAS: Essence name, Vandiil, V-A-N-D-I-I-L (van DEAL).

STEVEN: Family?

ELIAS: And your impression?

STEVEN: Sumafi.

ELIAS: Correct.

STEVEN: I don’t know the alignment, though.

ELIAS: Alignment, Sumari.

STEVEN: No! (Elias chuckles) Vandiil, very interesting. I perhaps won’t tell him, I don’t know. My mother, the individual designed as my mother, essence name, family and alignment, please.

ELIAS: Essence name, Gigi, G-I-G-I.

STEVEN: Family?

ELIAS: Your impression?

STEVEN: I have no idea with my mother. I don’t know, Elias.

ELIAS: Essence family, Sumari. And your impression as to alignment?

STEVEN: (Laughs) I don’t know!

ELIAS: Zuli.

STEVEN: Zuli? Really! (Elias chuckles) Oh, my goodness. It must be fun being in remembrance of our life! (Elias laughs) You picked up that energy when I said that, too! (Elias laughs) Listen, my sister’s essence name, family and alignment, please.

ELIAS: Essence name, Killian, K-I-L-L-I-A-N.

STEVEN: I would say her family is perhaps Sumari/Ilda.

ELIAS: Correct.

STEVEN: My brother — now this will be interesting.

ELIAS: Essence name, Olean, O-L-E-A-N (OH lee on).

STEVEN: And family, there’s Vold in there, correct?

ELIAS: Alignment.

STEVEN: And belonging family?

ELIAS: And your impression?

STEVEN: I don’t know; I’d say Sumari.

ELIAS: Correct.

STEVEN: There’s a lot of Sumaris around, isn’t there? Wow, my mother, sister and brother are Sumari. No wonder my brother can’t complete anything! (Elias laughs) Now two other individuals. The individual designed as my child’s mother. I wish I had more time to discuss with you about this individual and me. Her name’s Sheila — her essence name, family and alignment?

ELIAS: Essence name, Kayla, K-A-Y-L-A. And your impression?

STEVEN: I’m not clear on her family belonging. At one time I thought it was Milumet, but I’m not sure.

ELIAS: That would be the alignment.

STEVEN: Really! No wonder. And her family?

ELIAS: Sumafi.

STEVEN: No! (Elias chuckles) Wow. She’s Sumafi?

ELIAS: Yes.

STEVEN: (Laughs) Well, we have a lot to talk about! Is she orientation common or soft?

ELIAS: Common.

STEVEN: I thought so. My son Andrew — essence name, family and alignment.

ELIAS: Essence name, Jude, J-U-D-E. And your impression?

STEVEN: Sumari, perhaps.

ELIAS: Belonging to. And alignment?

STEVEN: Alignment, I don’t know! (Laughs) I don’t know, Elias.

ELIAS: Gramada.

STEVEN: Is he soft or common?

ELIAS: Common.

STEVEN: Sheila is Sumafi; that’s interesting. Well, Elias, this has been quite interesting.

I have a couple more minutes, so I will ask something, just one quick aside. What is this recent hurricane development here in this region of the country? What does this reflect? Because obviously I’m creating it also.

ELIAS: Turbulent energy being released.

STEVEN: I see, I see. Well, Elias, it’s been quite enlightening, and I will definitely, as much as I can, engage in noticing my comparisons.

ELIAS: And documenting them!

STEVEN: And documenting them as well. (Elias laughs) I’d like you to be assisting me.

ELIAS: And so I shall.

STEVEN: Thank you, because it’s a little daunting, in a way.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) I shall be encouraging with you, my friend, and I shall also be offering a continuous energy of supportiveness to you.

STEVEN: Thank you.

ELIAS: And perhaps an occasional reminder to be playful! (Laughs)

STEVEN: Do I sometimes become serious?

ELIAS: Yes! (Laughs)

STEVEN: All right, Elias, it’s been wonderful speaking to you. I love you, and I hope to speak with you again.

ELIAS: And to you also, my dear friend. I may express to you, it has been long overdue, has it not?

STEVEN: Yes, it has. (Both laugh)

ELIAS: I express to you tremendous affection, my friend, and I shall be anticipating our next meeting. To you in great fondness, au revoir.

STEVEN: Bye bye.

Elias departs after 59 minutes.

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