Saturday, July 31, 2004 (Private)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Natasha (Nichole)

(Elias’ arrival time is 13 seconds.)

ELIAS: Welcome again!

NATASHA: Thank you, Elias. I can finally ask my questions!

Lately, something is going on; I can feel it. I don’t know exactly what I am creating there. Again, I am jumping, I think, but lately I feel like a victim to all my creations. It’s like I am going against the wall. I am moving around but I am not moving in certain directions, that’s the way I feel. Now it’s the summertime and I created the thing with my knee, so that’s part of my question. Why did I create that thing with my knee? Usually I enjoy summer, I enjoy swimming, and now it’s painful and I cannot walk on the sand because of it. Of course, I analyze it and I think I was doing the stuff that I didn’t want to do and probably was pushing myself too much. So I wanted to hear your input on it.

ELIAS: That is partially what you have been creating, and also challenging yourself to be allowing yourself to create what you want regardless of what you perceive to be obstacles, challenging yourself in how to be creating what you want and activities that you want to engage, and how to remove the obstacle and therefore allow yourself.

NATASHA: I’m the obstacle! I want it to stop, and at the same time I am putting all these barriers.

ELIAS: And the question is, what are you concentrating upon?

NATASHA: I really don’t know. I think I’m doing one thing, but apparently from the actions and from the outcome it’s another thing. I guess my problem is I’m not analyzing it or I’m just hiding it from myself. I am doing something, but the something is not right.

Actually, I thought that part of my knee thing is related to my fibroid. That’s another thing I wanted to talk to you about. It is a manifestation that it’s time to do something about.

ELIAS: Perhaps. But more so, it is an example of concentration and attention. In this, as you perceive yourself to be a victim of physical manifestations and within your perception you are powerless to alter that physical manifestation, you continue to perpetuate that, and that limits you in your movement. But it is also an example of how you are creating in each moment.

Let me express to you, this is a difficult concept for many, many, many individuals, especially within this time framework and associated with this wave addressing to truths. One very strong truth that many individuals incorporate, yourself also, is that of cause and effect. In this truth of cause and effect, if you generate a manifestation physically, there has been some event or some action or some direction that caused the physical manifestation, and once the physical manifestation has been caused, you become victim to it. For the belief is that once a physical creation has been generated in discomfort or in illness, it thusly generates, in a manner of speaking, a life or a course of its own and you are no longer directing, and therefore you are powerless to alter it.

This may be one of your truths, but once again it is not true, for that is not the manner in which you generate reality — or I may rephrase and express it is not the manner in which you MUST create reality. It is the manner in which you are creating it, for it is associated with an expressed belief which is one of your truths.

But in actuality, what is actually occurring is that you focus your concentration in association with that belief. Therefore, you are reinforcing it. You are also generating automatic responses to it each day, and therefore perpetuating the physical manifestation. But each day in addition to the concentration related to the belief, your attention also is focused upon the physical manifestation. Therefore, your concentration and your attention are focused upon the belief that is influencing and the physical manifestation, and perpetuating the discomfort.

If you interrupt the attention, you also interrupt the concentration. If you interrupt the attention upon the discomfort and distract yourself, the discomfort is no longer felt. Let me express to you, for this is important: discomfort or comfort — any physical feeling — REQUIRES attention. If you do not offer attention to any physical feeling, you do not feel it. For you cannot feel without paying attention.

Let me offer you an example. Have you ever experienced incorporating a bruise which you incorporate no objective awareness of how you acquired that bruise?

NATASHA: Perhaps in my earlier years, yes.

ELIAS: Now; the manifestation is produced but you are unaware of producing that manifestation. Therefore, without the attention, you did not feel it. Any physical feeling requires attention.

Therefore, if you generate a physical manifestation, if you move your attention from it, if you distract your attention, you no longer feel it. If you no longer feel it, that allows you to relax and continue to move your attention away from it. As you continue to not pay attention to it, you also interrupt your concentration associated with the belief that influenced the manifestation.

Every manifestation that you create is created in each moment. Therefore, it may be interrupted in any moment. In that, you alter the manifestation physically, for to create any manifestation of any type, you must be expressing concentration upon a particular belief that influences your perception, which creates the physical reality. Therefore, if you interrupt the concentration of the influence of the belief, you change your energy, and in changing your energy, you change the physical reality.

NATASHA: Let me ask you something. What belief am I expressing when I continue creating my fibroid? What’s going on with it?

ELIAS: The same — the belief in cause and effect and that your body creates without your permission, that your physical body is not actually directed by you, that your physical body incorporates the ability to manifest any expression itself. Therefore, what you are generating is a belief concerning your physical body, another belief concerning separation: separation of yourself, that there are different aspects of yourself, there are different parts of yourself. There is you, which is the essential you, which is that illusive element of you that generates who you are, and there is the thinking you. There is a strong association that you generate that the thinking you is not the essential you but it is another part which creates its own entity. The essential you is one entity; the thinking you is another entity that is your brain entity. Therefore, that incorporates some physical and some nonphysical elements. There is also the feeling you, which is another part, but is generated into yet again another entity, and there is the physical you, which is your body.

Each of these you’s is separated, and each of these separate you’s therefore incorporates the ability to create independently of the essential you. Therefore, the essential you is not directing any of the other you’s. They are directing themselves.

NATASHA: I’m just thinking how I may operate, because these are my beliefs.

ELIAS: Correct, and you are not eliminating them.

NATASHA: I am not eliminating them, and apparently, since it grows, I am perpetuating them. We spoke about it before, and you said I’m not generating as much fear as I used to.

ELIAS: Correct.

NATASHA: What is the situation now? Is it the same, that I’m not generating as much fear, or has it changed?

ELIAS: You are not generating as much fear and you continue to move in the direction of lessening and lessening the fear. But even in generating less fear, that is empowering to an extent, but it is not necessarily addressing to these types of beliefs that you continue to perpetuate. As I have expressed previously, what alters that is to be aware of what you are doing, for what you are doing is expressing automatic responses. That is what generates the perpetuation and limits your choices.

In this, as you begin to notice your automatic responses, you may begin to evaluate what other influences these same beliefs incorporate, for recognizing an automatic response identifies one influence.

NATASHA: Could you give me an example from my own life of this? It’s just too general for me. I feel I’m not applying it correctly; I’m not applying this knowledge correctly. I know that there are automatic responses sometimes. I’m noticing them and trying to calm down or whatever. But with the creation of this, I don’t know what else...

ELIAS: Very well, incorporate your knee as an example. What did you do initially in creating this manifestation?

NATASHA: One thing led to another. I started on a regular bike, which I really enjoyed tremendously. I was pushing myself to start using the row-bike at home, pushed myself too much, but which I enjoyed also. Later on we went to the restaurant, and I danced. I really didn’t want to dance and I pushed myself to do it; I didn’t feel in the mood. That’s how I was pushing myself. Then I went to the beach, where I was afraid of the big waves, but I went into the water nevertheless. Finally I swam in these waves, but when I got out of the water, that’s when I noticed what’s happening with my knee. That’s how I was explaining it to myself.

ELIAS: Very well. What were you doing?

NATASHA: Pushing myself.

ELIAS: Correct. That is the commonality, and it is not a sequence of events that created the manifestation. It was creating the same action repeatedly. As you continue that action, you continue to manifest the physical affectingness.

I am understanding that you generate a preference to be incorporating the initial action that you incorporated, but what is significant, and I shall say again especially within this time framework, is to be aware of what you are doing and to move in the direction of balance. In this time framework, there is a tremendous energy which is being expressed. I have offered an analogy previously concerning this energy and how you may incorporate a visualization to be understanding the strength of this energy and how easily you may be incorporating this energy to create extremes. In these extremes, regardless of whether you view them to be good or bad, pleasurable or uncomfortable, the extremes are generating conflict.

Now; in this, if you visualize each individual’s energy within your physical reality as being projected outward and as it is projected outward it rises — this is hypothetical — and as it rises, it mingles with every other individual’s energy within the entirety of your physical reality. Individuals are generating a strength of energy, for as I have expressed many times, this wave is powerful. It incorporates very strong energy and potential to create trauma, for it is being experienced, not merely intellectualized.

Now; as all of this energy in all of their strengths mingle together, they create a type of cloud. This cloud grows and grows, becomes more and more turbulent, and becomes a storm, and each of the individuals within the entirety of your physical reality transform into individual lightening rods, and the storm is seeking each rod. Therefore, the energy of the collective in the strength that it is being projected is easily attracted by each individual.

Therefore, the strength of that storm may be drawn to each individual, and what each individual does with that energy may be created in extremes. It may EASILY be expressed in extremes, for it is so very powerful. Therefore, if you are not paying attention to what you are doing and if you are not listening to yourself, you are automatically drawing that strength of energy to you as a lightening rod. But you are not paying attention to how you are channeling that energy, and therefore it may automatically create extremes, for you are not wielding it, you are not directing it. If you are allowing it to merely be expressed without directing it, you may very easily express extremes, which is what you have been creating.

NATASHA: So it all comes down again to paying attention.

ELIAS: Which is very significant.

NATASHA: I thought I’ve been paying attention more!

ELIAS: You are, but this offers you a clear example. You express to myself you knew in the moment that you were generating excessive movement initially with your exercising, and that you were pushing that.

NATASHA: But I was enjoying it!

ELIAS: I am understanding, but this is the point. That is an extreme also. Pleasure and excitement may also be expressed in extreme in mix with expectation. As you generate that with the expectation, you are generating an extreme that incorporates the potential for tremendous disappointment, which is what you have created. Do not be fooled in feeling pleasure or excitement. Not that pleasure or excitement are bad, but in paying attention to what you are doing, you shall recognize whether you are also incorporating an expectation.

NATASHA: I think I always have an expectation, because that’s what draws me to start doing this. I expect that I’m going to have pleasure.

ELIAS: Very well, but also expressing a gentleness with yourself and appreciating yourself. It is unnecessary to be forcing your energy and pushing yourself if you are expressing a gentleness with yourself and appreciating yourself. Merely appreciating the action of incorporating the exercise rather than generating the expectation of outcome, and appreciating the process, appreciating your preference to be incorporating the action rather than also incorporating the expectation of the outcome or the product, that creates a very different energy.

If you are generating an action such as your exercise, and your motivation is that it is pleasurable and it is fun and you like the action, you allow yourself to appreciate the action. If you are also incorporating the expectation of a result, you are no longer genuinely appreciating the action itself, and therefore, your concentration changes.

NATASHA: I’m already focused on the future where I get the result.

ELIAS: Yes. And therefore, you are choosing a different influence, and you manifest a different outcome. This is the reason that it is so very important to pay attention to what you are actually doing and to listen to your communications.

NATASHA: I’m trying to listen to my communications. I’m now more inclined to go and have this operation because I got fed up with it, the fibroids. I don’t want it to be a crystal ball question, but I feel okay with it. I think it’s going to be okay, in terms of probabilities. Yet I’m still holding onto my old beliefs and stuff, and I’m on a scale here and the scale is tipping towards... So I wanted to ask you, because I’m confused.

ELIAS: I shall express to you what I have expressed to you previously: these are merely choices. One is not better than another. As you continue to struggle, you perpetuate the concentration upon the manifestation.

NATASHA: I know! There was one time when I tried not to think of it, like regardless I have it or I don’t have it. I’m trying to be normal, but there are things in everyday life that are uncomfortable because of this, and I’m tired of them and fed up with them.

ELIAS: It is not a matter of whether you incorporate the manifestation or not; it is a matter of struggling with your beliefs concerning the manifestation and whether to incorporate one method or another method to affect it. That is the point; that is what you are struggling with. As I have expressed to you previously, that matters not; they are merely different choices. WHATEVER you choose is YOUR manifestation. Whatever METHOD you choose, YOU are the one that is creating that, regardless of whether you incorporate other individuals such as physicians. You are creating THEM, and you are creating all of the ACTIONS that are incorporated.

Therefore, this is the reason that it is important to evaluate the influences of different beliefs and what your assessment of them are: that generating a dissipation of this physical manifestation yourself through energy is better than incorporating supportiveness from other individuals, and therefore, incorporating the supportiveness of other individuals to be helpful to you is less wide and you are less efficient; you are not as good at manifesting as other individuals.

I may express to you, you are quite good at manifesting. You are manifesting these physical expressions quite effortlessly, are you not, and in a strength! Therefore, if you are that powerful, you may be powerful in any choice. It matters not; one choice is not better than another choice. They are merely choices, and they are all methods.

NATASHA: I’ll work on that. I need to be reminded of that, you’re right. I’m pretty stubborn. And it’s not discounting, I’m noticing that I’m holding onto some things pretty well. I didn’t think I was that stubborn, but in the last days I’ve realized it.

ELIAS: Ah, but stubbornness also has its positive influence!

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NATASHA: I wanted to ask a few questions about pyramid focus, if we have some pyramid action in our trio, Dan, Inna and me.

ELIAS: Yes.

NATASHA: Who is the other person?

ELIAS: And shall you not investigate? And as you investigate, allow yourself to be incorporating your communication of imagination, also.

NATASHA: Is this individual physically present? (Elias raises his eyebrows and stares, and Natasha laughs) I love the look on your face!

ELIAS: Perhaps! (Grins)

NATASHA: You’re playing so good!

ELIAS: (Laughs) But this is the point my friend, to be playful, to incorporate the game!

NATASHA: So you do say we have pyramid action.

ELIAS: Yes.

NATASHA: Was I ever a diver, jumping from high into the water?

ELIAS: Yes.

NATASHA: In this time framework?

ELIAS: Earlier.

NATASHA: For some reason, Greg Louganis came into my mind. I just saw some jumps on TV, and it occurred to me that I might be a diver.

ELIAS: Yes.

NATASHA: This century?

ELIAS: This century of this new millennium? No. That would be present time framework. Previous century, yes. Within your previous century, yes, earlier within the previous century.

NATASHA: I like to dive when I’m in the water, but I’m afraid of depths. I am afraid to open my eyes when I’m in deep water. Why is this fear?

ELIAS: Fear of unknown and unfamiliar and what you may encounter. There may be dangerous creatures, and you may present yourself face to face with one of these dangerous creatures! (Humorously) Perhaps you already do, but you do not see them, and therefore they are less dangerous.

NATASHA: (Laughs) Exactly! If I don’t seem them, they don’t exist! (Elias laughs) Also I wanted to ask about my parents. I’ve been with them for a big number of focuses, my parents? (Elias nods in agreement) With their stormy relationship and stuff. And we were in different capacities, like a family?

ELIAS: Yes.

NATASHA: What are my mom’s and my pop’s names and their colors? (Pause)

ELIAS: First individual, Lynya, L-Y-N-Y-A (LEAN yah). And your impression of this individual’s color?

NATASHA: Some kind of red.

ELIAS: Magenta. Second individual, essence name, Boris.

NATASHA: Boris? (Laughs) That’s so funny! What’s his color?

ELIAS: And your impression?

NATASHA: A mix of green and brown?

ELIAS: Brown.

NATASHA: What family is he? I’m much like him — he must be Sumafi also. But his alignment... He’s even more stubborn than I am.

ELIAS: Vold.

NATASHA: And my mom? She must be also Sumafi. She’s so different; she’s so encouraging.

ELIAS: Borledim.

NATASHA: Nurturing; that’s her family. And her alignment?

ELIAS: Your initial impression was correct.

NATASHA: Sumafi. She has her own ways of getting to the truth. Are either of them in transition?

ELIAS: Not yet, although there is a consideration to be moving into that action.

NATASHA: Me, I’m not in transition.

ELIAS: No.

NATASHA: Although sometimes I feel like I am!

ELIAS: (Laughs) That is merely shifting, my friend.

NATASHA: Shifting?

ELIAS: You are shifting, which may appear to you to be similar to transition, but it is moving with this shift.

NATASHA: So I am moving?

ELIAS: You are quite definitely moving.

NATASHA: Quite often I don’t know what I want. I don’t know what I want but I want to get up and move somewhere, go somewhere. Like Dan says, “You’re just jumping in and you don’t realize the consequences.” I think that’s part of my intent; it’s tied in. Somehow I’m pushing myself into something and then I figure out how to get out of it. Is that part of my intent?

ELIAS: Yes.

NATASHA: That I am jumping into the water and then figuring out how to swim?

ELIAS: And it matters not, for that is your exploration and how you generate your experiences. And there are not necessarily consequences, for that also would be associated with cause and effect.

NATASHA: Speaking of my intent, lately I think it has something to do with expressing love and having enjoyment. Or is that too general?

ELIAS: You are correct. In many different capacities and how to explore in an adventurous manner how to be expressing in that manner.

NATASHA: I think love should be there, definitely, because that’s... I don’t feel it one hundred percent of the time, but sometimes I do feel it and it feels good.

ELIAS: That is the expression of genuine knowing and appreciation.

NATASHA: I can’t wait to get there and start merging! (Elias laughs)

ELIAS: And perhaps you may allow yourself to begin this day!

NATASHA: I should. I should start enjoying it now, not wait until I die.

ELIAS: Correct.

NATASHA: My friend at work, Tamara, I think that we cooled down a little from our problems in the recent past. I’m trying to realign myself when I’m with her and when I’m at my place of work. I’m trying to kind of cool things down and make them easy for myself. It’s not one hundred percent, but I think I’m getting successful at that. Is that a correct assessment?

ELIAS: Much more so. As you begin to experience agitation, incorporate a game with yourself and eliminate the other individual. Merely pay attention to you and what is being triggered within you.

NATASHA: And what is being triggered is a reflection of what is in me?

ELIAS: Yes.

NATASHA: Have I spent some lifetimes with her?

ELIAS: Yes.

NATASHA: She is a big challenge for me.

ELIAS: Ah, but that also would be in keeping with your intent, would it not, to be challenging yourself in an adventurous manner in how you shall be expressing that love. Which is what? Knowing and appreciation.

Therefore, as you incorporate an experience of agitation, eliminate the other individual and discover within yourself what you can appreciate, regardless of what it is, regardless of how insignificant it seems. In that moment, even if you may merely appreciate the other individual’s shoes (Natasha laughs), that changes the energy, and just as it has in this moment, it may become amusing to you rather than irritating.

NATASHA: That is perfect! May I ask her name and her families? I’m just curious. (Pause)

ELIAS: Alaina, A-L-A-I-N-A (al AY nuh). What is your impression?

NATASHA: Borledim?

ELIAS: And alignment?

NATASHA: Vold?

ELIAS: Correct.

NATASHA: Oh my god, really? Wow! What’s her color?

ELIAS: Buttercup; it is a hue of yellow.

NATASHA: Elias, it was such fun. I was getting ready, but now I’m so relaxed, it’s like I don’t have much to ask! It’s like I understand somewhere in the back of my mind that I do have the knowledge. I’m just reluctant to follow it.

ELIAS: I am greatly encouraging of you, my friend.

NATASHA: Thank you so much.

ELIAS: You are very welcome. And accept from myself my expression of appreciation of your dearness. To you in great lovingness, my friend, au revoir.

NATASHA: Au revoir.

Elias departs after 58 minutes.

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