Friday, March 19, 2004 (Private)

Participants: Mary (Michael), Daniil (Zynn) and Natasha (Nichole)

(Elias’ arrival time is 15 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

NATASHA: Good afternoon, Elias! Oh, finally we meet again! (Elias laughs)

DANIIL: It’s hard to believe we’re doing it in person.

NATASHA: It is not so hard, just such a warm feeling when you open your eyes and start speaking.

ELIAS: I welcome both of you.

BOTH: Thank you!

ELIAS: And what shall we discuss?

NATASHA: Our questions! (Elias laughs)

DANIIL: I guess I’ll ask my questions, then Natasha, and then we can discuss anything.

ELIAS: Very well!

DANIIL: I wanted to ask about my parents’ essence names.

ELIAS: Offer first individual.

DANIIL: My mother, Bella.

ELIAS: Lillian.

DANIIL: And my father, Hirsh?

ELIAS: Friel, F—R—I—E—L (FRY ul).

DANIIL: Now I’ll try to guess their families.

ELIAS: Very well.

DANIIL: My mother, she may be aligned Ilda.

ELIAS: Correct.

DANIIL: I was thinking she might be Sumafi, but I’m not sure.

ELIAS: Borledim.

DANIIL: And my father, the alignment, he might be Sumari.

ELIAS: Correct.

DANIIL: His essence family, again, I’m not sure.

ELIAS: Attempt an impression.

DANIIL: Well, he might be Sumafi.

ELIAS: Correct.

DANIIL: The reason I’ve chosen these two individuals to be my parents, is there a way to look at it as if, for example, I chose my mother because she kind of gave me an example of acting rather than contemplating or thinking, and my father because he gave me an example of contemplating deeply, being professional, or creating some model, view of the world. Can I look at it that way or...?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: So it is in alignment with my intent that I can kind of get some examples from my father and some from my mother, and together it kind of moves me in alignment with my intent?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: Is my focus color navy blue?

ELIAS: Indigo.

NATASHA: I was always telling him that he has something to do with blue!

DANIIL: Is there such thing as a focus name? Like projection of the focus meaning or focus energy, focus vibration into a name?

ELIAS: That would be your name.

NATASHA: That’s what I told you!

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: I’m surprised, because when I found out that there is a way to project focus into a color, to project focus into a tone, I thought, well, maybe there is a way to describe focus as a different name.

ELIAS: But you have chosen that name.

DANIIL: That makes sense, thank you. (Elias laughs)

What would be my biggest block, in terms of blocking my energy or moving freely? What would be my habit that prevents me from growing, or some stumbling block?

ELIAS: And what do you assess?

DANIIL: I think one block would be fear to open up more to the experiences around me, because I notice some rigidness and some being kind of remote or cold. But I cannot pinpoint what it would be more specifically.

ELIAS: Exposure.

DANIIL: So I am avoiding exposure, then.

ELIAS: You allow some exposure but you also guard yourself, and in that shielding of yourself, you do not allow as much exposure as you can. In terms of generating a block, that blocks your ability to receive. For the more that you express an exposure of yourself, which is an openness of yourself, the more capacity you incorporate to receive.

DANIIL: Would that be more of an emotional exposure or...? Can you describe exposure a little bit more?

ELIAS: It may be associated with what you term to be emotional exposure, but also more of an allowance of yourself to generate an openness with yourself and with other individuals. Not merely in an emotional manner but in any manner, allowing yourself to genuinely create an expression of interconnectedness with yourself and with other individuals.

Let me express it to you in this manner. Perhaps allow yourself to feel the type of exposure that you allow — at times, not entirely, but at times — in an intimate sexual experience. In that, you allow for a genuine interconnectedness with another individual in openness, and allow yourself to express yourself freely and allow yourself to receive freely from the other individual in your interactions. In similar manner, in other types of interactions and with yourself, allow that type of openness and exposure.

DANIIL: Now, sometimes or oftentimes I feel almost a physical separation from the rest of the world, so to speak. We discussed that before, where I said it’s like a bubble, a clear bubble around me. It may be that I have a little bit of a headache or a little bit of a hard time concentrating or not remembering. All of that plays together into tiredness and not basically being able to either concentrate on something or let something come in. Is that the way I express that separation, rigidness? I am not allowing exposure?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: So, how do I start? Like the moment I feel that tiredness and headache or not being able to concentrate, whatever, how do I go around it, how do I shift myself to open up?

ELIAS: By not fighting with it. You push your energy against that expression, and in doing so you perpetuate it. If you allow yourself to merely acknowledge it, momentarily relax and subsequently distract yourself, you are not attempting to push away that experience. You are interrupting it but not enforcing. As you interrupt it, you allow yourself to reconfigure your energy and generate it in a different manner. Distraction of any type is helpful, regardless of what it may be. Incorporate a brief walk and allow yourself to appreciate you in those moments. Incorporate that time framework to be acknowledging yourself.

This is a camouflage that you create to allow you the excuse to continue this shield. Therefore, what is significant is to initially interrupt the pattern and to incorporate an action that interrupts this pattern, but also to be expressing an acknowledgment. Therefore, as you incorporate your brief walk within these moments, what you shall allow yourself is to be incorporating the interruption, changing your environment temporarily — which also is an interruption — and incorporating automatically, without thinking, a different type of breathing, which automatically occurs and which generates a different feeling within your physical body consciousness. In this, you may more easily be acknowledging of yourself.

As you walk, allow yourself to appreciate some element within your experience in that time framework, perhaps what you incorporate visually, perhaps merely noticing the feeling of the air. It matters not what you choose, but it is significant that you allow yourself the acknowledgment of some appreciation within your reality. For, what that shall generate is more of a trust of yourself, and that shall be helpful in breaking the shield.

DANIIL: I think I understand. Thank you.

You mentioned that I have a focus amongst shamans of ancient Mexico. Did my focus there meet with your focus of Elias?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: Which generation was it, like a disciple of your focus of Elias?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking. I would not incorporate the terminology of “disciple,” but yes. (Laughter)

DANIIL: That gives me something to work on. I want to ask you about my friend. You identified his essence name as Vaudi, his focus name is Philip. Is he Sumafi, aligned Sumari?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: He created a difficult situation in his life now, where his family is kind of falling apart. His wife may be mentally unstable, and he is thinking about maybe trying to get their child separated so he is not harmed by that illness. What can I tell him, how can I help, what message can I give him? Why is he doing that?

ELIAS: You may express to him, first of all, understanding is not always necessary for acceptance. Regardless of whether he understands the creations or experiences of another individual, he may be accepting. But acceptance is not synonymous with “like,” either. Therefore, he may be accepting and also listening to himself in association with his preferences, recognizing that it is unnecessary to judge, but he also incorporates preferences and they are significant.

In this, you may express to him also to be concerning himself more with himself than with the other individual, for they are generating their choices in accordance with their value fulfillment, and not to be distracted from himself by the choices of another individual — and also to allow himself to be gentle with himself.

DANIIL: Thank you. Does he also have a focus with shamans of Mexico?

ELIAS: Yes, with you.

DANIIL: With me, yes, and with you!

I get impressions sometimes that I have a focus that practices marshal arts, or maybe that was more that I have a focus that is kind of fighting, may be killing people, whatever. Is that so? Do I get a correct impression?

ELIAS: Several.

DANIIL: Is one of them in this time framework? (Pause)

ELIAS: No, but somewhat overlapping futurely.

DANIIL: I thought in the future we’ll have no wars.

ELIAS: That would be your choice! And I am not expressing that the individual engages in a war.

DANIIL: It’s more like practicing marshal arts? (Elias nods in agreement) My focus of Leonard Bernstein, he lived in America and he died in 1990, the same year I came to the United States. Is there a meaning in that, in kind of taking over, gathering experiences in this particular culture?

ELIAS: It was a choice. Not to be replacing, but to be incorporating a lending of energy from one focus to another focus in continuing the journey and the exploration.

DANIIL: So there is a continuity to it?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking.

DANIIL: Our friends Tamara and Anatoly that you identified as Carlo and Ginnette, what are their musical tones, the musical tones of their essences?

ELIAS: First individual, second octave A chord; second individual, middle C.

DANIIL: That second individual, being a musician, I asked him to guess my tone and Natasha’s tone. My tone, he immediately said, “G,” which is the same as you said, and he was pretty confident. Natasha’s tone, he said, “F sharp.” I said “No, it’s A”. He said, “No, I still think it is F sharp.” Is this her focus tone, maybe? Why was he so confident?

ELIAS: Let me express to you that your energy within your focus in any moment may fluctuate and may be represented by any different musical tone. That is the energy that you are expressing in that moment. It is not necessarily associated with your essence tone; it is more of an energy tone.

DANIIL: My last question is about our friend Oksana. What is her essence name?

ELIAS: Litz, L-I-T-Z (LITS).

DANIIL: Is she like Sumafi/Borledim or Sumafi/Sumari?

ELIAS: Sumafi/Borledim.

NATASHA: Wow, I am impressed with your guesses! (Elias laughs)

DANIIL: I am proud of myself.

ELIAS: Very well! I shall be offering my congratulations also.

DANIIL: Thank you, if it was not for you... (Elias laughs)

NATASHA: So, let me start. I want to get the stuff that I wanted to ask first, so I get it out of the way. I want to start with my friend I have back in Russia who used to be a teacher of Russian literature, Galina N. She had some surgeries recently but she has survived. She gave me her impression of colors. She gave three colors: green, natural like grass green, white and yellow. She saw herself in all green with all these colors. I wanted to know her essence name, her families.

ELIAS: Very well. Essence name Lu-Nah, L-U-hyphen-N-A-H (LOO nah). And your impression?

NATASHA: I thought there was Milumet somewhere.

ELIAS: Alignment.

NATASHA: Wow, I am proud of myself now! (Elias laughs) What is her original family, then? I thought it is either Sumafi or Ilda.

ELIAS: Ilda.

NATASHA: I had Ilda going somewhere. Have I had any focuses with her?

ELIAS: Yes.

NATASHA: How many?

ELIAS: Sixteen.

NATASHA: And how many focuses have I had? I have no idea; I can’t tell you for sure. It does not seem like a lot, but sometimes it does seem like I have a lot. I don’t know! (Elias laughs) Probably somewhere in the middle. Middle is my favorite position.

ELIAS: Two hundred fifty-one.

NATASHA: Not that much, ha! So, I am still a baby. (Elias laughs)

Now to more serious stuff — my attitude to this is serious — but the same question as Dan asked: What’s stopping me from enjoying myself? I think I can identify some of the reasons of what’s stopping me, but it has to do with acceptance of people who are close to me, with the acceptance of their choices, and I have a problem with that. Because sometimes I think that people are not aware or not completely aware or they are mistaken or whatever, but there is some confusion in their choices. I cannot make their choices for them, and intellectually I do understand, but the acceptance does not happen. It’s very hard for me to accept, and I think because of this I cannot enjoy fully my life.

I stop myself all day, I am watching myself, and the older I become I notice that I am enjoying less and less things in life. The things that I used to enjoy, I am not enjoying them anymore that much, as intensely as it used to be in childhood. In my adulthood it went off, it seems.

ELIAS: For you are not paying attention to yourself that much as you did previously. You concern yourself with other individuals and scenarios outside of yourself, and you are not paying attention to what you are actually doing or what you actually WANT to do. You more concern yourself with your own expectations of yourself.

NATASHA: I thought I don’t expect of myself that much anymore... (Elias laughs) I still do? I think in a way I am not pushing myself as much as I used to push.

ELIAS: I am acknowledging of you in this. You are not generating as much forcefulness with yourself as you have previously and as we have discussed previously. You have allowed yourself more of an acknowledgment, but although you have not incorporated as much pushing, you are not allowing yourself to move into what we may term to be the next step of expressing.

NATASHA: How do I do that?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, you are slowing one action, but you are not moving into the next action of allowing yourself to express, allowing yourself to be incorporating the actions that YOU want and acknowledging yourself in your own directions and exploring your own directions, and therefore...

NATASHA: That’s the problem, I don’t know what I want.

ELIAS: This is the point. But you begin to discover what you want by exploring your preferences. As you explore your preferences, you offer yourself the information of different actions that you incorporate that you prefer, and you also identify those that you do not prefer. That offers you an avenue into your expression of freedom. But you shall not be incorporating that identification if you are so very busy concerning yourself with the choices and the behaviors of other individuals.

You are correct; you do not create their reality. But let us move one step further in that — you also do not know their value fulfillment. Therefore, regardless of whether any particular choice or behavior or expression of another individual appears to you to be a mistake or not, or an inadequate choice, it matters not, for the choice would not be engaged were it not being expressed in their value fulfillment, and that may not always be entirely clear to another individual. Especially in a moment and if the choice of another individual is a choice that you would not engage, it may be challenging to understand in the scenario in the moment why the individual is generating that choice. But as I expressed to you (looking at Dan) in association with your friend, it is not always necessary to understand why another individual is generating certain behaviors or certain choices or certain expressions. Whatever they are creating, they are creating in alignment with their value fulfillment or they would not be creating it.

I may express to you, the reason that it is difficult to be accepting of another individual’s choices is the element of difference. If they generate different choices, especially those types of choices that you recognize within yourself would not be your preference and that you would not generate those choices or those experiences, that influences you more strongly than if an individual is generating a similar choice to yourself. For generally speaking, individuals frequently automatically generate comparisons.

NATASHA: Yes, I remember you speaking about comparisons.

ELIAS: In those comparisons, they compare themselves to other individuals or they compare situations or they compare concepts. That is an automatic action, an automatic response. In this, there is an automatic immediate assessment and outcome of the comparison that one action is better than another action, one choice is better than another choice. Generally speaking, many times whatever is your choice will be the choice that is better, and the other individual will be viewed as generating a bad choice. But you may not view what they are actually doing. They may even incorporate uncomfortable choices or conflicting choices, but these choices may be being incorporated purposefully to motivate them to be generating a different direction, or they may be an expression of offering the individual an excuse or a camouflage to generate another action. It may be associated with their own challenges. Regardless of what the reason is, there is some value in what they are choosing or they would not choose it.

NATASHA: I understand the theory; it’s just acceptance of this that is so hard.

ELIAS: I am understanding. In this, you are not responsible for other individuals. You are responsible for you. Therefore, pay attention to you. And you may express to yourself an acknowledgment that you do not agree with the other individual’s choices. Agreement is not necessary, either, to acceptance.

NATASHA: I understand. I’m just looking for some ways how I could help them. I don’t know; probably my help is not needed. That just occurred to me!

ELIAS: First of all, let me express to you, if it is not requested, it is not being sought.

Secondly, the manner in which you may be the most helpful is to be supportive, and the manner in which you may be supportive is to not be judgmental of the other individual’s choices, regardless of whether you agree with them or not.

NATASHA: Let’s return to me, then!

ELIAS: Very well! (Laughter)

NATASHA: In the beginning of this year, I had something happen to me that I had to be taken to the emergency room. My lower right back still bothers me. I wonder what I am creating here. Am I creating an action that should motivate me to do other actions, or what is it? I’m confused. Why am I creating this? I was told in the emergency room that there was a stone in my kidneys, and it had passed. I still feel that area — sometimes more, sometimes less — but I’m generating something, I’m trying to get this message for myself, and I’ve not deciphered it yet.

ELIAS: I may express to you, what you are generating is a manifestation to attain your attention to be supportive of you. You concern yourself quite frequently in being supportive of other individuals, at times to the neglect of your own support.

NATASHA: Why am I doing this? Because I’m not used to supporting myself, paying attention to myself? What’s the reason? It still comes down to discounting myself. That’s what it is — I just don’t pay attention to myself. So what’s the means of getting my attention?

ELIAS: It does gain your attention. If you are paying attention to that, you are not necessarily paying attention to outside influences. Now move beyond merely paying attention to that center and that physical manifestation. Now move into an expression of genuinely paying attention to you, who you are, what you want, and expressing yourself.

NATASHA: I’m attracted to anything new: new technology, new cars, new boats. Do I have either a lot of focuses in the future, or do I do something in the future that attracts my attention? Or is it just a matter of preference in this focus? Because I do like new stuff.

ELIAS: This is a preference in your focus. It is also a manner in which you may express outwardly and view yourself expressing outwardly an appreciation. Incorporate that as an example and allow yourself to appreciate you in all of your newness as much as you appreciate the newness of inventions within your reality — for you are creating them! (Chuckles)

NATASHA: What about my preference to watch TV or to listen to the radio instead of listening to tapes or watching tapes on TV or listening to CDs? I prefer live broadcast. Even though I know it is taped somewhere, I prefer broadcasting. What is it about?

ELIAS: That is an interaction.

NATASHA: Interaction?

ELIAS: Yes. For you are allowing yourself to interact and participate with the other individuals’ energies rather than merely incorporating a recording.

NATASHA: I suspected something like that. It is a participation somewhere that I cannot physically perceive, but I still understand.

ELIAS: Correct. (Chuckles)

NATASHA: The period between sleep and no sleep, in between, what is it that I see? Sometimes I get glimpses. This was so weird, because my point of view was somewhere low. I saw dog’s paws, or somebody’s paws, and leaves, green and yellow, and it was sunny. I saw it for such a short period of time, and then it went away. I was just wondering, what is the nature of these pictures that I might see before I fall asleep, at the stage when I’m in between?

ELIAS: Other focuses. They may be associated with this physical reality, and they may also be associated with other physical realities.

NATASHA: You mean other dimensions?

ELIAS: Yes.

NATASHA: I do have focuses in other dimensions?

ELIAS: Yes.

NATASHA: Once I had a dream where I saw a couple of people in a trolleybus, and one of them told me a number — 21 or 22 or 24 — I don’t remember now. I was trying to figure it out. Then a man walked down the stairs, walked cross the street and came to me. The man was like in a black coat and a black hat. It came to me that that man was you, and I was so glad that I finally figured this out. It was you who gave me a little blink of an eye or something like that? (Elias laughs) What am I displaying to myself, that I am connected somehow to the Shift or to you?

ELIAS: Yes, and that you are connected to much beyond also, that you are not merely limited to this one area, and an offering to encourage you to be recognizing yourself as much more vast than you do...

NATASHA: Yeah, only vast physically!

ELIAS: (Laughs loudly) You are much more vast than that! Infinitely so!

NATASHA: I sure hope so. When we had a private session with you, our first private session in New York in Ben’s apartment, I asked you about my fibroids, and you asked me my impression about why I created this. I told you this was about my fears and stuff. We went somewhere along the lines, but we never actually discussed this through, to my thorough understanding. Is it the same matter I’m creating with my back, or it’s similar?

ELIAS: No, it is different. That was concerning fear. In that time framework you were expressing considerable fear and tremendously discounting yourself, which you have altered considerably and have allowed yourself much more of an expression of yourself and your freedom. You have dissipated much of your fear concerning interactions, concerning right behaviors. That has dissipated considerably, and I am tremendously acknowledging of you.

NATASHA: Oh, thank you.

ELIAS: In that time framework, there was a tremendous expression of discounting yourself, which you have generated a considerable alteration of that also. Although you do continue to discount yourself, but not to the degree that you have previously. That was associated with that manifestation.

This is a different manifestation. This is concerning not supporting yourself and not offering to yourself what you incorporate a frustration with, that you cannot offer to others. What you wish to incorporate with other individuals, to be supportive and helpful to them, is what you are not offering to you.

NATASHA: This year started so rapidly with people passing away. Intellectually I understand, I think, and I can deduct logically that what you would say is probably the Shift, that people do not want to participate. It is accelerating. For some reason, I don’t want it to have an effect on me but it still does, and I react emotionally. So I guess my question is what is it, an acceleration of the Shift?

ELIAS: It is dependent upon the individual.

NATASHA: But you have a period when you hear this person died, that person died, young people die...

ELIAS: Let me express to you an acknowledgment of you, and the suggestion that you allow yourself gentleness with yourself and allow yourself your expression of grief, of expressing that energy. For it incorporates in attention, and weeping is a natural release of energy. In this, loss is one of the most difficult experiences and concepts for most individuals.

NATASHA: I think it is one of the greatest, if not the greatest... You are afraid not so much of your own death as of other people.

ELIAS: For it is the fear of separation and loss. The loss is tremendous. And I may sit with you and I may express to you countless times that you actually are not separated, but it does not create that reality within your experience. I may express to you that you may be interactive with the individuals that have chosen that direction, but until you allow yourself an openness to that experience, I am aware it offers little comfort.

NATASHA: With me, would I ever allow myself... I know you’re going to say we have all the capabilities to do it, but in the situation as it is right now, it seems that it’s not only that.

I read all these wonderful sessions, and people see so much. I’ve only seen a little glimpse in a very long time period, and I don’t see much. It seems I wouldn’t allow myself to see more, but I am still looking for the method. I read the exercises but I never do them. I try to do it, and then I fall asleep or I get distracted. Dan can concentrate much better than I can. I have to find my own way or something. I should have this capability.

ELIAS: Yes. Let me express to you, allow yourself to relax. You may incorporate two methods.

You may incorporate generating the action of a visualization of the individual. ALLOW WHATEVER is being generated, and do not discount it. You may not necessarily hear a voice initially, you may not necessarily incorporate a visual of a form initially, but you may generate impressions in that state. You may feel the individual’s energy, and that reinforces a confidence in your ability.

You may also incorporate interaction within dream state. Merely allowing yourself to be interactive within the dream state, that may actually lead, so to speak, to actual projections in energy. I am understanding the difficulty that is expressed with individuals within physical focus to actually manifest an individual that has chosen to die...

NATASHA: I’m not speaking about that, I’m talking about accessing my other focuses or just to project myself, to see the earth from above, to fly. I’d love to experience it, but probably I still have the fear. That’s why I don’t do it.

ELIAS: But it may be easier to generate an action of interacting with an individual, for you, that has died, for you already incorporate a knowledge of the individual, you already incorporate an association with the energy. It is already recognizable to you. Therefore, that may appear to you to be less impossible than flying through your universe.

DANIIL: I have the same question. How do I help myself start experiencing this? Sometimes I tell myself I have a focus as a shaman and those people are supposed to be experts in manipulating energy. And here I am, not doing it at all!

ELIAS: (Chuckles) This would also be associated with what we discussed, in generating that exposure to be receiving. Individuals confuse what I say to them in association with receiving. There is an automatic association or idea concerning receiving a thing. It is not necessarily concerning receiving a thing, but receiving expressions, receiving experiences that you want to generate. In that openness, you allow yourself to be receptive, and in that receptiveness, you allow yourself to experiment and to risk and to challenge yourselves and to experience.

DANIIL: Elias, I think our session is almost over. Thank you so very much for this opportunity!

NATASHA: Elias, it is such a blast to talk to you. Thank you so, so much!

ELIAS: You are both very welcome. As always, I extend to you my dearest friendship and my unceasing supportiveness and encouragement to each of you. I am always available to you.

NATASHA: I’ll talk to you, then!

ELIAS: In tremendous lovingness to you each, au revoir.

BOTH: Au revoir.

Elias departs after 59 minutes.

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