Friday, March 12, 2004 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael), Dawn (Awan) and Mark (Baruch)

(Elias’ arrival time is 17 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

MARK: Good morning, Elias, and how are you?

ELIAS: As always, and yourself?

MARK: I am doing very well, thank you, very well. I have Dawn on the other line as well, so we are doing something differently this time. Rather than split half an hour then half an hour, we will talk together.

ELIAS: Very well!

MARK: So, as you’re aware, there has been some quite amazing dramas in the groups, and I think we may ask you one or two questions related to that because a lot of it actually is focused on Dawn and me, and I may go into that a little later.

Let’s focus on some questions that I would like to have some clarification on. The focuses in the Lord of the Rings dimension, about the translation of it, I am curious because I have noticed when we have asked a question, at times you will come back and you will say yes and it is an emphatic yes that that question is so. Then at other times you will answer by saying it is sort of like similar but it is coming across as not being quite, it is coming across as a sort of translation.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: When you have actually said an emphatic yes that I am Faramir, and then you have said something to somebody else, not a yes, that it is a similar focus, can you please explain exactly what that means?

ELIAS: Very well. The reason that the answers are presented differently is associated with the individual that I am interacting with. I am aware of their energy and how they are associating, whether they are associating quite literally and projecting a strength in energy in that manner, or whether they genuinely understand that these are translations and that this character has been, in a manner of speaking, invented by the writer but there is a translatable similarity to a focus within another dimension.

Some individuals are more clear in recognizing that any of these other-dimensional focuses may be likened to characters that are presented within your dimension but they are not precisely that character. Those individuals that more clearly understand the element of translation, it is unnecessary to be reminding them. Those individuals that are less clear and are interpreting more literally and more absolutely, it is more necessary to be qualifying and reminding them that these are translations.

MARK: Right. How’s that, Dawn?

DAWN: (Laughs) It’s good, thanks. So when you say I have a focus that translates as Arwen, is that focus still interacting with Arkandin?

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: That is the bit that I really wanted to get clear on. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

MARK: When I actually was focusing on this, I understood that there was a yes for me as Faramir, and then in a session recently there was a translation-type answer for someone as Eowyn. But I believed the focus that I saw myself interacting with in that dimension as Faramir was, in fact, somebody that I was close to many years ago. That was what confused me, because either I was not looking at that correctly or that... Well, I am sure you understand what I am getting at.

ELIAS: What you view as the other focus and what you present to yourself in impressions is correct, and were it to be translated into this dimension, the presentment of that focus would be that character. Are you understanding? If you were to materialize that focus into this dimension, that would be how it would appear.

MARK: Right, and would that be the same for the person that... It is actually Ioanna that you said was a translation of Eowyn.

ELIAS: Yes. Remember, these are translations. Therefore, the character is a type of symbolization of a type of focus. Therefore, there maybe several individuals that incorporate focuses within that dimension that would translate as the same character. Are you understanding?

MARK: Yes. So how would you actually know, or is that obvious whether in my translation as seeing it as being someone else and Ioanna’s seeing it as me? (Pause)

ELIAS: Clarify.

DAWN: What you want to know, Mark, is are you interacting with Ioanna in that focus.

MARK: Or am I interacting with somebody that I was close to many years ago?

ELIAS: Ah, I am understanding. The manner in which you generate that distinction is by recognizing the energy. You recognize the energy in sensing it or feeling it, and in this, your association with the individual that you interacted with previously, or in your terms, years ago. You recognize that individual’s energy as the same or similar to the individual that you are interacting with in the other-dimensional focus, not the individual that I identified the translation of Eowyn.

DAWN: So Mark’s impression is correct?

ELIAS: Correct, for you have offered yourself that impression in association with the feel and experience and sense of the energy.

MARK: I still think I need to think on that one a little longer. (Elias laughs with Mark)

A question you keep getting asked so many times with regard to soul mates: I think Dawn and I do understand quite a bit about soul mates and that you have numerous soul mates that you are associated with. But when you actually look at who is a soul mate to you, the number of focuses within this dimension does not actually indicate that you are or are not a soul mate of that person.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: So when I actually look at this and I know that within this dimension, within this reality, Dawn and I have shared 73 focuses together, my impression is that because of our alignments and who we are that we actually are much closer together within other dimensions that are not tied up with the belief systems in this dimension, and as such we are actually soul mates.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: (Laughing) Are you happy, Dawn?

DAWN: It just took you a long time to get to the question!

MARK: Kalyana, is that a soul mate of mine as well?

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: Well, that explains things. (Elias laughs)

MARK: (Laughs) Why are you laughing, Elias?

DAWN: Because he knows! (Laughter)

MARK: I believe that both Dawn and I are soul mates of you.

ELIAS: Yes.

MARK: I felt so strongly with that, especially from our last conversation and especially with the interactions that I have been having recently, which have been quite incredible. This morning when we got a rather abusive email from somebody within the group, I was actually quite annoyed and angry at receiving this. I was about to jump up and type out an equally abusive one back to this individual. I actually heard your voice telling me to not lend this energy and that it would go away. I felt an incredible surge of energy surrounding me that was actually quite emotional for me. Am I correct in this?

ELIAS: Yes, you are.

DAWN: I have struggled with this, and this has been something that has played on my mind for sometime. I feel as if I have been pushing it away. I am not really sure why.

MARK: Can you offer anything, Elias?

ELIAS: Offer more specific.

DAWN: I feel as if I have pushed the idea of the connection away, my connection to you. I feel that for some reason I block it. I don’t actually understand why I do that.

ELIAS: I am understanding. Let me express to you, this is in actuality not unusual. I express a strength in energy, and many individuals, although they may experience an affection towards myself in friendship and they may express a fondness in association with myself, there also is expressed many times a receding, so to speak. It is a type of skepticism. Not the type of skepticism in which the individual does not believe their relationship with myself or does not believe that I am quite real, but more of a skepticism of themselves that they doubt their capacity to receive the energy that I am expressing.

MARK: That is so, so right!

DAWN: Well, it is big!

ELIAS: Correct, in your terms. And in that power, that at times may be somewhat intimidating to those in physical focus, I am understanding their want to be allowing themselves to express an openness to receive my energy, but I am also understanding their recession from it in fear of it being overwhelming and their inability to be incorporating my energy without that overwhelmingness, but...

DAWN: There was a focus that I offered, well, I saw. It’s a Native American focus, I think my name is Che-wan-tia, and I believe I am married to you.

ELIAS: Correct.

DAWN: Is that your Chief Gall? (Pause)

ELIAS: Correct.

DAWN: When I connected to that, afterwards I got really emotional and cried. When I connect to certain focuses, I have these really strong emotional communications, and it is quite overwhelming at the time.

ELIAS: I am understanding, and how much more overwhelming do you associate with my energy now, for it is expressed much more strongly not within a physical focus.

DAWN: Yes.

ELIAS: But let me also assure you that individuals eventually do move beyond that fear and allow themselves to experiment with receiving my energy and discover it is not an expression that is necessary to be feared.

MARK: Yes, that is right, and I know that Dawn is becoming more and more open to that. I am going to jump down our list of questions here. We have been focusing and experimenting with you, and I felt that at times when I was focusing with Dawn on these focuses, I felt like your energy merged into me and that you were actually me while I was with Dawn. Is this correct?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes.

MARK: How do you mean “in a manner of speaking”?

ELIAS: I do not assume your identity.

MARK: Oh, I absolutely agree. I understand that, yes.

ELIAS: Therefore, you are correct in the assessment of the mergence of energy and the mingling of energy in which within an energy expression it would be difficult to distinguish the energies, but there continues to be the individual identities.

DAWN: It was fun!

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Let me also express to you, there are two directions that individuals generally associate with myself in relation to themselves. One is in safety in some expressions, that it may be somewhat easier to allow themselves to expose themselves with myself for there is an element of safety that is expressed, for individuals do incorporate a knowing that I shall incorporate no judgments and that I shall be accepting of whatever exposure is expressed. But there is also the skepticism that is expressed by the individuals in association with their own capacity for receiving and their own expression of exposure to themselves. Are you understanding?

DAWN: Yes.

MARK: Yes, and I feel that the merging with you is like a knowing.

ELIAS: Yes.

MARK: I don’t feel unsafe or regard it as a safety thing. I actually feel it as more of a knowing and a bonding, getting much closer to you because of the relationships that we encounter together.

ELIAS: Yes, I am understanding. My energy may be incorporated in many different manners, and it is your choice how you receive and configure it to be of benefit within your expressions and in your journey. It may be manipulated in many different manners and in a significant strength.

MARK: The power of the energy is quite huge. (Elias chuckles) It is fantastic, actually; I so enjoy doing that. I feel absolutely fantastic when I am doing this. It is quite exhilarating and it’s so much fun.

ELIAS: (Laughs) And that is the point, is it not?

MARK: It sure is! Dawn, was there anything else on soul mates?

DAWN: Yes, I wanted to ask about Arkandin, my connections to Arkandin. Do I have a lot of lives in this dimension with Arkandin?

ELIAS: And your impression?

DAWN: Eighty-seven.

ELIAS: Correct.

DAWN: Is that a similar kind of connection to the one I have with you and Mark?

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: So it is another soul mate for me?

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: Yes, I felt that. I am doing well — I have got three tonight! (Laughter)

MARK: Let’s see. I saw a focus where Awan is Merianne, who is married to I believe it is Darvid, who is Arkandin in my impression, and whom she loves deeply. But she is having a passionate affair with a knight named John, who I believe is you. When Darvid finds out about the affair, in jealous rage he takes his sword and slices off Merianne’s head. When you find out about this, you kill Darvid. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Yes. (Laughs)

DAWN: Poor me! (Laughing)

MARK: Poor you! (Laughing) But I was absolutely amazed with that one, Elias, the actual passion that was involved with the focus of Arkandin and you towards Dawn. It was quite amazing.

ELIAS: (Laughs) And dramatic!

MARK: And dramatic, absolutely! Slicing off someone’s head in one fell swoop is quite dramatic!

ELIAS: (Laughs) I do incorporate a preference for drama. It is quite entertaining!

DAWN: I think I share that one with you. (Elias laughs)

MARK: I think we all do, don’t we?

In the year 1343, on the border of France and Switzerland, a focus of Awan as...

DAWN: Georgiana.

MARK: Georgiana, yes, and you, Elias, as Leon. Were you married to Dawn at this time?

ELIAS: No.

MARK: Were you actually together?

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: We were exploring, or you’re helping me to explore pain and pleasure in that focus.

ELIAS: (Laughs) In a manner of speaking!

DAWN: We saw me tied down.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) As I have expressed, I do incorporate a preference for drama.

MARK: Exactly right! What is the next one, Dawn?

DAWN: This one is in the 17th century, Elias, in France, where there are three of us: Jacques, Mark; Frederique, you; and I think I am Annalise. Is that right?

ELIAS: Correct.

DAWN: Now, this one is a good one! (Laughs) They are very decadent in that life.

ELIAS: I may express to you that within my focuses I have chosen to be quite decadent in many of them! (Laughs)

DAWN: It looked pretty good to us! (Elias laughs) I have one question about that. There is a party at a large house, and Mark and I are interacting on a polished table, and there is a man who watches from the doorway. We were wondering if that was a focus of Cynthia.

ELIAS: Yes.

MARK: Another one, this is a wonderful focus where you and I, Elias, are brothers and we share Awan. This is a very, very loving focus, and the incredible thing is that there is absolutely no rivalry at all. Within this timeframe for there to be a relationship of this type, I just don’t know that it is actually possible. The love between all three is... I don’t know if this is right, but it is so totally equal.

ELIAS: I am understanding. You are correct.

MARK: Yes, and it is absolutely amazing. I just want to confirm the names I came up with. You as Eltanin?

ELIAS: Yes.

MARK: Me as Giahuzar?

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: And Awan as Tianna?

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: This in actual fact goes back, within our understanding of time. I get 28- to 30-thousand years BC?

ELIAS: Approximately, yes.

MARK: Within this dimension or within another dimension?

ELIAS: Within this dimension.

MARK: Have I left anything there, Dawn?

DAWN: No.

MARK: Another thing is we have gone through a lot of drama together, Dawn and I. It got to a stage where Dawn was wanting to disengage, and it got very, very close. We have been working through this. In that time when Dawn came home from hospital and I sat with Dawn, I actually felt like I could hear her grandmother talking to me. basically saying things that Dawn could relate to like “pull your socks up, young lady” and various other things, which I think Dawn related to. Further to this, Dawn wanted me to ask her something about which only she would know. I was shown a doll by her grandmother, and I described the doll to Dawn and this was exactly the same type of doll that Dawn had at that time. What exactly was happening there, Elias?

ELIAS: That is your allowance to be tapping into an energy deposit.

MARK: It’s a deposit?

ELIAS: Yes, which is quite real and contains quite real and accurate information.

MARK: It was quite amazing. Strangely enough, I believe that I used to be doing this when I was younger quite a bit, and then people would brand you as being weird and I stopped. I have always felt that was there and I actually feel this is getting stronger and stronger. I believe that will continue getting stronger and become easier for me to do.

ELIAS: As you practice, so it shall.

MARK: Dawn, you have some. Do you want to do yours?

DAWN: Okay. Do I have a focus with Joan of Arc?

ELIAS: As a soldier, yes.

DAWN: But not related to her?

ELIAS: No.

DAWN: When I was looking at that, I found a focus, a person called Gilles de Rais. Is that a focus of Baruch? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: Are the stories about him true, Elias? The way we remember him in our history?

ELIAS: Somewhat accurate. (Dawn laughs)

MARK: Thank you! Somewhat accurate!

DAWN: Did he kill children?

ELIAS: At times.

DAWN: So is this more one of his infamous focuses?

ELIAS: If you choose to perceive it in this manner! (Laughter)

DAWN: Well, he keeps finding them for me, so. (Elias laughs) I tried to find my focus at the Alterversity because everyone is finding focuses there, and I came up with the name Dana.

ELIAS: Correct.

DAWN: Is Baruch her brother?

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: Does she become the lover of Arkandin?

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: Mark still has to work on his name.

MARK: It is Chelay.

ELIAS: Correct.

DAWN: There was another focus, I don’t have any names for this one, but you are — and I use this term loosely — a gentleman, an English gentleman, and you and two of your friends actually hold me down and you rape me.

ELIAS: Correct.

DAWN: When we looked at this, Elias, I was so angry. I was so angry I wanted to kill you, and I said to Mark, “Just look and see. Do I kill him?” (Laughs with Elias) I think I do! I kill you, don’t I?

ELIAS: (Laughs) Eventually!

DAWN: I use the sword that’s inside your cane?

ELIAS: Correct.

DAWN: In the stomach?

ELIAS: One area.

DAWN: Whoa! (Laughter) I was really vindictive in that life! (Elias laughs)

MARK: Wanting revenge!

DAWN: Gillian came up with a focus that she wanted me to ask you about today. She believes there are you, Gloria, Allesander and her, and she believes she and Allesander are twins. The four of you interact in a focus in London, and she believes you are called “Young Bloods.”

ELIAS: Correct.

DAWN: These two focuses don’t cross, do they?

ELIAS: No.

DAWN: It just crossed my mind. Actually, I am happy about that. I have to deal with these people!

ELIAS: Ah! And prefer to do me in solely yourself! (Elias laughs with Dawn and Mark)

DAWN: As you have said before, you have expressed that this is a different form of intimacy.

ELIAS: (Chuckling) You are correct.

DAWN: Another focus in the 1920s, America, where I am called Katrin and I am married to someone called Jurgen Wiesman. I have a lesbian affair with a focus of Lucille’s called Beth Fitzgerald.

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: Do I have a focus in the dimension we call the Pleiades, named Aravaal?

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: When I was going through some of my challenges recently, I had a dream where what happened in the dream was that I put out my hand and it was grasped by a hand that wasn’t there. Then the hand became physical and a person appeared. I believe that was you and we hugged.

ELIAS: Correct, yes.

DAWN: I am curious about this. Is this me offering your energy in comfort to myself, or is that like an interaction to show me that I could make you physical or...?

ELIAS: Both.

DAWN: It was really, really comforting to me.

MARK: Which you needed at that time.

ELIAS: And it is an allowance of yourself to be interacting with my energy directly.

DAWN: I really enjoyed it.

There are a couple of questions from Ari. Are Gloria and Ari parallel counterparts?

ELIAS: Not now, but they have been.

DAWN: Is Allesander an observing essence to Ari?

ELIAS: No.

DAWN: Am I the daughter of Ari and Allesander in their flamenco focus in Spain?

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: Am I Allesander’s daughter when he is Saladin?

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: Sandy recently sent me a list of focuses that he felt we shared. Is it possible without me giving you that list to say how accurate it is? (Pause)

ELIAS: I shall express to you approximately half.

DAWN: Half? So we need to work on that one! (Elias laughs) How many focuses do I share with Allesander?

MARK: I can offer an impression.

ELIAS: Very well.

MARK: My impression is 58.

ELIAS: Correct.

DAWN: Well done, Mark! I am very curious about my connection to Ioanna. How many focuses do I actually share with Ioanna?

ELIAS: Impressions?

DAWN: Mark?

MARK: (Laughs) I knew you were going to do that to me again!

DAWN: Why not? It works!

MARK: My impression with this is 87.

ELIAS: Eighty-six.

MARK: I am probably getting confused with Arkandin.

DAWN: How many focuses does Mark share with Ioanna?

ELIAS: Impression?

MARK: Your turn now, Dawn! (Elias laughs)

DAWN: (Laughing) You’re so good at this!

MARK: And so are you. Fifty-one.

ELIAS: Correct.

DAWN: How many focuses do I share with Oona? Impression, 43?

ELIAS: Correct!

DAWN: Oh, that is so cool! It felt like something I pulled out of the air. (Laughs with Elias) And with Mark? Do you want to offer an impression, Mark?

MARK: Sixty-two.

ELIAS: Correct.

DAWN: Well done! Also I would like to know how many focuses I share with Carter. Fifty-one?

ELIAS: Forty-one.

DAWN: And with Mark?

MARK: Throwing me a curve ball there, Dawn! Fifty-seven.

ELIAS: Correct.

DAWN: The focuses that I share with Patel, is that a particularly close connection?

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: Would that be a soul mate connection?

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: Oh, I got four! (Elias laughs)

MARK: Elias, as within this dimension we share quite a large number of focuses, when I feel into that, I feel that not only do I share a large number of focuses with you, I also am observing essence to a large number of your focuses as well.

ELIAS: Yes.

MARK: I recently created being pushed out of my job, which I actually found to be quite fun. I have created this a couple of times, and each time I have created it being safe for this to happen. It has not been a situation where I have been worried about what is going to happen with finances or finding another job, and I have found myself to be quite comfortable and relatively laid back about it. I am actually really curious if this is leading to something.

ELIAS: (Laughs) That is a quite general question, whether it is leading to something. I may respond and say to you OF COURSE it is leading to SOMETHING!

MARK: I think the something that it is moving towards is I feel like I am at a point where I believe I have the capability of creating a means for me to continue in this way of not requiring what is termed to be a normal job.

ELIAS: I am understanding. Yes, you do incorporate the ability and the capacity to be generating your own direction and creating your own expressions and generating money in association with that.

MARK: I am quite amazed at how comfortable I feel about it. I am amazed as well with Dawn, because we have gone through times when we have been very, very strapped for cash shall we say, and even Dawn is feeling quite relaxed about this. It is quite interesting to observe this happening, realizing it feels like I am moving very rapidly towards creating being able to live the way we want to live without requiring a job, so to speak. (The telephone reception begins to break up.)

ELIAS: I am understanding. I may express to you that your communication is being interrupted.

MARK: The equipment is being interrupted?

ELIAS: Yes. Shall I incorporate Michael?

MARK: Sure, yes.

ELIAS: One moment.

(Mary returns, corrects the problem, and then Elias returns)

ELIAS: Continuing.

DAWN: Thank you for that.

MARK: Is that a surge of energy there, Elias, interfering with technology?

ELIAS: (Laughs) Which occurs much more frequently than you realize.

MARK: I had just finished talking to you about moving towards a situation where I will be able to support ourselves without the need for a job. I am quite amazed at how comfortable I am feeling about this, and I am looking at what is the signal that is coming through with this.

ELIAS: You are validating yourselves in your expression of trust of yourselves. This is the reason that you are expressing this comfort and not generating an anxiety or worry, for you are trusting yourselves more fully and acknowledging your abilities.

DAWN: I have actually recently been aware of some more interactions I believe of the essences around me. Sometimes on the side of my head it feels like a gentle touch. I know that most people feel Ayla in their hearts, but I felt that was Ayla at the sides of my head.

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: It feels very comforting. Also, I have been having this sort of tingle on my lip. I wasn’t sure if it was an interaction, but when I asked Mark about it he offered the impression that that was Arkandin’s energy, and I just wondered it that was accurate.

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: That’s really nice! I have also sensed Patel on my head.

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: I’m working on getting as good at this as Gillian is. She is very efficient. She has lots of them! (Elias laughs) I’ve got along way to go yet.

MARK: I suppose to sort of round off, I know that Daryl already asked you about the Darlings war that is ensuing at the moment. As a result of somebody highjacking the group, booting people off it and not allowing them back onto it, I created a new list to create a situation where — I suppose it is a protection belief really, isn’t it — where that will not happen again.

I’m curious as to the steps that have lead up to this, and the emails and abuse that this other person has actually put to numerous people within the group. What is the signal with somebody being so abusive to people, especially to people who, certainly from my side and from others, have offered nothing but... Well, they just don’t deserve it. I’m at a loss as to why this is happening and why it is happening now.

ELIAS: Ah!

DAWN: Truth wave?

ELIAS: You are correct. It is associated with this wave. How may you actually challenge yourselves to discover your truth or how you may interact with differences and address to your own truths if you do not present them to yourself?

DAWN: Does it have to be so dramatic, Elias? I feel I am riding this truth wave and it’s like a tsunami. It’s big.

ELIAS: You are correct, it is, and quite powerful. I have expressed this particular wave maybe the most powerful wave of any of them. It is quite challenging, but it also in its accomplishment shall be tremendously liberating for each of you. But truths are quite powerful, and that is the point, recognizing the strengths of your truths and how they influence you and how they influence you in association with differences. It is quite easy to sit within the comfort of your rooms and view conflicts and differences from a distance, which does not quite challenge you, does it? But to present it to you individually and what you term to be in a personal manner, that is quite different, and it is the point to present to yourself the experiences of your truths.

This wave is not being expressed intellectually. This wave is being expressed experientially, and therefore, it is significant that you are presenting to yourselves not merely a recognition of your preferences as you initially assume, but you are also presenting to yourselves the experiences of your truths.

MARK: The way I have been looking at it, Elias, is that I’m looking at it from the angle of perspective or preference. Preference in that I quite understand that there are people who have a preference to be of a certain nature, but that I also have a preference where I can choose not to be associated with somebody who behaves in a certain way.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: That is letting me know I don’t have to accept the behavior of this individual and can therefore focus on myself without having to be associated with that other person. I think this is why I formed the group, because at this moment in time this person will not be a part of this group until collectively people are happy with or happier with the behavior of this person. I think within this group it is our preference not to be associated with this type of behavior.

ELIAS: I am understanding. But in this, the point is not necessarily associated with your preferences. I am acknowledging your recognition of your preferences and your choice to be generating a different direction in acknowledgment of your preferences. But what is more the point (and) to be evaluated in this type of situation is the automatic responses which are associated with your truths — which you experienced just prior to our interaction in this discussion and you recognized my intervention in energy with you. Why? For you expressed an automatic response to be matching energy with the other individual. That is what is significant, for that automatic response is generated in association with your truths.

This is the point, to be recognizing your truth and therefore paying attention to the influences of those truths. Were you not expressing your truth, you would not have generated that type of automatic response in matching energy, and I would not have intervened to be reminding you of acceptance within yourself. But this was significant also to allow you to view your own automatic response and what that influences in your behavior.

The influence of that automatic response was to match energy. You stopped and you recognized that. But more to the point is to be recognizing the truths that are expressed and therefore recognizing what triggers automatic responses associated with these truths, not to change them necessarily, but to allow yourself freedom and choice.

MARK: I see that, and I know that certainly more recently I have definitely sort of felt... Dawn said earlier, “How would you feel if she started to put more stuff out on the groups, the other groups?” and my response was well, she can do. I am not concerned with what other people may derive from this information should she want to put it out.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: That is then focusing on other people, on what other people think of who I am. I know who I am and I don’t need to concern myself on what other individuals think, because I know who I am and what happened.

ELIAS: Correct. That is what is significant to be focusing your attention with.

DAWN: Is that a little more challenging for a soft person then, Elias? To not concern yourself with other’s responses?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. In actuality, many times — although once again, it is not a rule — but many times, generally speaking, soft individuals may generate somewhat of less personalizing than other orientations.

MARK: I think it is time now.

ELIAS: Very well! I shall be anticipating in playfulness our next meeting and I shall be continuing to offer my energy to you both in encouragement and in supportiveness. I express to you now, in your new endeavors be playful. Allow yourselves your preferences.

MARK: Yes. I totally agree and that has been so helpful, talking to you. I know we communicate quite regularly. Not via this method through the phone but through energy, and I so enjoy and appreciate the energy that you offer and the energy of other essences as well. Especially when you start to communicate via energy, it is at another level that is quite special and quite beautiful, in fact.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome. I express to you both tremendous affection and great fondness, my friends. Au revoir.

DAWN: Our love to you, Elias. Au revoir.

Elias departs after 1 hour, 7 minutes.

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