Saturday, August 16, 2003 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael), Daniil (Zynn) and Natasha (Nichole)

Elias arrives at 8:39 AM. (Arrival time is 17 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

DANIIL: Good afternoon.

NATASHA: Hi, Elias.

DANIIL: How are you, in your diverseness?

ELIAS: (Laughs) As always! And yourself?

DANIIL: We’re fine, I think. Natasha and I are doing the session together today. I think I will start with my questions and then Natasha will do hers, and if we still have time we can just all chat together.

ELIAS: Very well.

DANIIL: I was happy to read in one of the materials that one of your focuses is nagual Elias. I read all the Castaneda books I could find, and I want to use this opportunity to say thank you, first of all, to all these people — Elias, Don Juan, Castaneda and all their friends — that I think affected me to a large degree. I would like to ask, is there any connection in terms of shared focuses? Did I have anything to do with shaman of ancient Mexico?

ELIAS: Do you have a focus? Yes.

DANIIL: What is the connection? Is that a focus that I could access if I tried?

ELIAS: In terms of reference material? Yes.

DANIIL: Oh, even in terms of published material, you mean?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: Could you tell me please his or her name, or do I need to investigate that?

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! I shall be encouraging of you to be investigating and listening to your impressions. This shall be a practice.

DANIIL: Okay, thank you. I want some brief validation of my understanding of intent. Many times in the material you have spoken about the fact that thought does not create reality. So if I keep saying, “I want this car, I want this car, I want this car,” just thinking about it, I might not get it because it’s just thinking. Am I correct in understanding that there’s something else involved in achieving anything or everything, and we can fully intend or have some strong desire — that we have to feel a strong desire — and that we can guide it by doing some rational acts towards our goal — or by doing some irrational thing — but as long as we keep a feel of our intent, we are indeed moving toward the goal? Am I correct in this thinking?

ELIAS: Somewhat, yes.

Now; let me also express to you a clarification. Your desire is the force that drives your intent. Your intent is being expressed through your experiences. As you are aware, it is the general theme of your experiences within your individual focus.

Now; wants are different from desire, and you are correct that you may generate a want in a particular moment and it may not necessarily be in alignment with your intent.

Now; let me be clear. In this, at times you may create some manifestation that is not necessarily in alignment with your intent. There are no absolutes. Therefore, I may not say to you that if you are not creating in alignment with your intent that you shall not incorporate the ability to create a particular manifestation. That is generally the situation, but not absolute and not entirely.

For at times, dependent upon your beliefs and your direction, and whether you may be attempting to offer yourself information — which may not initially appear to be in alignment with your intent, but in actuality it may be offering you information concerning your intent, and it may be an action that you may incorporate to offer yourself more clarity in association with your preferences or what you do not prefer — you may choose to be creating some expression that is not necessarily in alignment with your intent. But generally speaking, you do move in a direction that is in association with your intent.

But as to creating manifestations such as your example of the vehicle, you may be expressing a want to be creating a vehicle and you may be noticing that perhaps you are not actually creating that, and therefore generate a wondering within yourself, a questioning why you are not creating that. That may not necessarily be associated with your intent or not with your intent. It may more strongly be associated with beliefs that are expressed within you that may be limiting you and therefore preventing you from creating what you want.

Also, another factor may be that you are not actually listening to your own communications and being clearly aware of precisely what you want. You may be offering yourself through thought an identification of what you want partially but perhaps not specifically, and that also generates hindrances at times in your ability to actually create what you want.

Therefore, it is important to be genuinely paying attention to yourself and to all three of these aspects of yourself: what you do, what you think and what you communicate. For if you are exercising flexibility in your attention and paying attention to all three of these aspects of yourself, you shall generate much more of a clarity in relation to what you want specifically and also what your direction may be in any particular time framework in association with your intent. Are you understanding?

DANIIL: I’m understanding partially. I will have to go back to the terminology and I will have to work on it again. I have some understanding of the intent as expressed in Carlos Castaneda’s books, as I mentioned before. I thought that I’m trying to exercise this whenever I create for myself. I try to focus my attention on some desire or unselfish desire, I try to focus my attention as much as I can on simply wanting to do the right thing in order to achieve that goal, and that is my understanding of what intent is. But I will have to go back in my material and see where my terminology is wrong, and I will have to gain more understanding.

ELIAS: Very well.

DANIIL: My famous focus you mentioned before is a musician, and you mentioned that he or she plays the piano. Is this the same as my final focus, or those are two different focuses?

ELIAS: Two different focuses.

DANIIL: Is this focus male?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: Is he also a conductor?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: I’m getting an impression that he played fairly recent music, maybe 20th century or...

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

DANIIL: I’m getting some impressions that maybe even there were some elements of jazz or folk music. Or was it strictly classical?

ELIAS: Generally classical.

DANIIL: Okay, so, 20th century classical music and he conducted.

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: When I’m trying to imagine myself playing piano, I’m getting also feeling sometimes that I played bass or I played a wind instrument, like saxophone or flute. Is that true, first of all, or is it from other focuses?

ELIAS: That would be associated with another focus.

DANIIL: But there is some truth to that, that he played something like bass or a wind instrument?

ELIAS: Yes, both.

DANIIL: Would you give me some more clues to zero in on that famous piano player or shall I continue to struggle on my own?

NATASHA: May I ask to offer my impression?

ELIAS: Very well.

NATASHA: Arthur Rubenstein?

ELIAS: No. I shall offer you a clue that you may incorporate in your treasure hunt. This individual’s name, the first name begins with the letter L and the formal name or what you term to be the last name begins with the letter B.

DANIIL: That sounds like Bernstein.

ELIAS: Correct! One point! (Laughs)

DANIIL: All right! Thank you!

ELIAS: Of course, I have handed you this information. (Laughs)

DANIIL: Yes, you did. Now that you handed me that information, I guess I will try to listen to more music of his or read more material on him. Do you think that would be helpful, or should I try to limit my exposure to published material and try the remembrance of him?

ELIAS: It is your choice. You may incorporate either or you may incorporate both.

DANIIL: Yes, I think I will incorporate both.

Natasha and myself, we have friends, Tamara and Anatoly, both of them are musicians. Did we ever play in the same ensemble in some other focuses? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: Would you give us a clue as to time framework or type of the ensemble to investigate?

ELIAS: Early 20th century, Cuba.

DANIIL: What are their essence names, if you would?

ELIAS: Offer first individual.

DANIIL: Tamara.

ELIAS: Essence name, Carlo, C-A-R-L-O.

DANIIL: And Anatoly?

ELIAS: Essence name, Ginnette, G-I-N-N-E-T-T-E (ZHEAN net).

DANIIL: Thank you. Gender seems to be reversed in relation to the names.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Essence does not necessarily recognize gender.

DANIIL: Another question I had, my friend Paula, she had an impression a month ago that she was a Russian gypsy in another focus. Is there some truth to that?

ELIAS: Yes, correct.

DANIIL: And her essence name?

ELIAS: Essence name, Zanue, Z-A-N-U-E (ZAAA new).

DANIIL: Thank you very much. Another question I had, when I begin to notice some signals in my health, some minor problems — and I guess this is a very, very common question — but should I treat them as signals only or should I go to the doctor every time and pursue treatment to the end? Or should I do both? In other words, sometimes in reading material about illnesses being signals, I get a feeling that if I really listen to my own communications and I intend myself to be well, I can get well. But I’ve been reading some other material and sometimes you’re saying to choose a simple way, choose an easy way, and sometimes going to the doctor and taking pills is an easy way. So, doing it myself or choosing an easy way or both? Which is correct?

ELIAS: I may express to you both, for in this, remember that you incorporate expressed beliefs. Many times those expressed beliefs, without being recognized and without recognizing their influences, may be quite affecting and may also at times hinder your ability to be creating certain expressions in manners that are contrary to them.

Remember also, my friend, you create all of your reality. Therefore, you are also creating the technicians and the physicians and the methods that are incorporated with them. You create all of that, and in that, you offer yourself a tremendous availability of many different methods to be incorporated in association with any manifestation that you may create physically.

Now; I shall express to you that it is significant to be paying attention, for any physical manifestation that you may create IS a communication. It is a type of signal that is expressing some identification of some action or association that you are generating inwardly. Therefore, it is important to not merely move in an expression of addressing to symptoms, but also to be evaluating and investigating within yourself what you are actually generating, what you are expressing in creating this manifestation.

Therefore, my response is — my suggestion is to be paying attention to both. Do not force your energy in attempting to generate actions that are contrary to your expressed beliefs. As an example, if you incorporate an expressed belief that your physicians are competent and do incorporate abilities to heal, it is somewhat ludicrous to attempt to move in an expression contrary to that unless you are moving in a direction of genuinely exploring your abilities to manipulate energy.

But the point in any expression that you choose or any direction that you move within is to be generating an ease. Therefore, if one direction appears to you to be incorporating an ease, why would you then complicate and move in a direction that is more difficult? Unless you choose to experience the difficulty, which at times individuals do!

DANIIL: My last question, and then I hand it to Natasha again. Ellis Island, when I pass by it on the ferry, I generate a feeling of some familiarity, as if I had a focus that emigrated to America through Ellis Island and had been on the island for some time. Is there truth to that?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

DANIIL: Okay. I hand it to Natasha now.

ELIAS: Very well!

NATASHA: Okay, Elias, I am here.

ELIAS: (Laughs) And so am I!

NATASHA: I’ve written a few questions for myself so not to forget all of them, but we’ll see how many I can squeeze in. Last time I didn’t ask you about my color.

ELIAS: And your impression?

NATASHA: I have two impressions: either pink or yellow or something close to this.

ELIAS: Your focus color is a light pink. Your essence color is gold.

NATASHA: So I was close, then. I was reading recently about focuses being emotional, political or thought focused. What kind of focus is mine?

ELIAS: And your impression?

NATASHA: Emotional.

ELIAS: Correct.

DANIIL: Am I thought focused?

ELIAS: Political.

NATASHA: I was always telling him he’s a big diplomat! (All laugh)

Elias, I want to ask you about my friend Vita, who lives in Ukraine in Kiev. We have a very long and mutual love for each other, we are friends, and I wanted to know if I have any focuses with her in the past and her family name, tone and color.

ELIAS: Yes, you do incorporate other focuses with this individual. Essence name, Nemon, N-E-M-O-N (NEE mon). And your impression as to essence families?

NATASHA: She might be the same as I am, though she might have same alignment but different family. I don’t know. She may be the same alignment, Ilda, but of a different family than I am. I’m not sure

ELIAS: Essence family, Sumafi; alignment, you are correct, Ilda.

NATASHA: And her tone, please, and color? Her musical tone.

ELIAS: Musical note, F sharp; color, spring green.

NATASHA: Thanks. The next question is do I have any focuses that would be beneficial for me to explore, and in what country would that be?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) If you are choosing to explore other focuses, any focus that you choose to explore is beneficial. Ha ha!

NATASHA: Let me rephrase it. What’s easiest for me to access?

ELIAS: Very well, I shall offer one as a beginning point that you may explore. Time framework, 1400s; physical location, Peru, South America. This individual is not a priestess but was groomed to be a priestess, and chose not to fulfill that direction but rather has chosen to move in another direction of instruction of small ones.

NATASHA: Thanks, very interesting. Thank you so much.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome!

NATASHA: Now, next question, I have my friend at work, Tamara, and when I told her about our last session and we spoke about it, she mentioned that she had an impression that she was a big ruler, maybe Cleopatra. Was her impression correct?

ELIAS: She incorporates a focus in that time framework in that location but not as that individual.

NATASHA: But was she a person of power, something like that or close to it?

ELIAS: Not necessarily of power, but of court, yes.

NATASHA: After we had our last session, actually I feel much better now. Do I move at all in the direction of more acceptance or am I still not moving?

ELIAS: Oh, yes, you are! (Chuckles)

NATASHA: I am? I feel much freer now, for some reason.

ELIAS: For you are allowing yourself more freedom and not discounting yourself as much as you were previously.

NATASHA: So, you are confirming this, huh?

ELIAS: Yes. Although, I may also express to you that you may continue to practice with this and noticing, for you do generate automatic responses that continue to discount yourself or express a suspicion of yourself, but you are generating considerably less of that type of expression than you were at our previous meeting. Be encouraged, but continue to practice. Ha ha!

NATASHA: I am encouraged, then. I notice when I am discounting myself and I notice when I am doing automatic responses, but I notice it after I’ve done it.

ELIAS: Which is not to be discounted, either, for you are noticing.

NATASHA: Now I wanted to ask you about my energy centers.

ELIAS: Very well.

NATASHA: Are they in alignment, or do I have some of them that are sticking out of alignment with others? (Pause)

ELIAS: The blue, the yellow and the orange energy centers are somewhat not in alignment — not tremendously out of alignment, but somewhat.

NATASHA: I had a suspicion that my blue and orange, I didn’t think of yellow, but yellow, yes, it makes sense. Does it make sense on my conscious level to try to manipulate, or just leave them alone and just continue noticing and doing the stuff that I’m...?

ELIAS: It may be beneficial to be realigning them, yes.

NATASHA: Concerning direction, I always have this question. When you say clockwise, from what point do you look at it to see it rotating clockwise?

ELIAS: From any point. It matters not.

DANIIL: So if we imagine them rotating... For example, I’m looking down as if I looked at my physical body from the sky, so to speak, then I would have them all more or less aligned, a vertical line, and rotating clockwise as I’m looking down on myself.

ELIAS: Yes.

NATASHA: What I told my husband, that I think he was my son, is it true that he was my son or daughter in previous focuses?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

NATASHA: Now about my musical inclinations, I’ve always wanted to play since my early childhood. It happened that I started to play instruments later in my life, like when I was 11, but I always wanted to play. I guess I do have some previous focuses involved with music, but do I have one or do I have many?

ELIAS: Several.

NATASHA: Were they successful in any of them, I mean big time or were they just on an amateur level?

ELIAS: One, yes.

NATASHA: What time framework would that be?

ELIAS: Time framework also early 20th century.

NATASHA: So, that’s during Leonard Bernstein’s era?

ELIAS: Earlier.

NATASHA: What instrument? I mean, was I playing guitar before or is this the only focus that I play guitar?

ELIAS: That focus, it is not the instrument of guitar. In this focus it would be an instrument of brass, a trumpet.

NATASHA: So it must be somewhere in America?

ELIAS: Yes.

NATASHA: A black musician?

ELIAS: Yes.

NATASHA: Okay, I guess we can ask our questions together. (To Daniil) Do you have anything to ask?

DANIIL: Did Natasha or I share some focuses as musicians other than the focuses in Cuba?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: I had an impression that I was a black musician, perhaps in the same focus that played either bass or the wind instrument. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Correct.

DANIIL: Did Natasha’s black musician and my focus as a black musician, did we play together?

ELIAS: Occasionally, but not continuously.

DANIIL: I had a question about my final focus. You mentioned that my final focus shares the same time framework with my current focus. Could you give me any clues as to how to access that one?

ELIAS: In listening to your impressions or visualizations or even dream imagery. You may access that focus in the same manner in which you access any other focus.

DANIIL: It was a little bit easier with the other one to start, because I asked if I was a pianist and you said yes, so I started imagining myself playing the piano and tried to get some clues from that. But my final focus, I guess I will have to struggle, because I don’t know what image to begin with. (Elias laughs) That’s okay. Is there a possibility of me meeting my final focus?

ELIAS: I may express to any of you there is always a possibility.

Now; whether that possibility is an actual potential is a different matter. Generally speaking, most individuals do not objectively meet other focuses of their essence within their focus. For generally speaking, although not always, the physical locations of each focus are removed from each other to generate different experiences of different cultures and different expressed beliefs. But there is, as I have stated, always a possibility but not necessarily a likelihood.

DANIIL: Is that common to generate focuses in the same time framework? Or if it is uncommon, is that some kind of a clue or opportunity?

ELIAS: All essences express several focuses in each time framework. Therefore, yes, it is very common, for this allows the essence to be experiencing many different expressions and aspects of your physical dimension in each time framework simultaneously. Each essence also generates with each focus many, many, many counterpart actions with other focuses, other essences, other individuals to generate experience also.

DANIIL: I was wondering if I chose now to start learning piano or other musical instruments that I played before in other focuses, would that be a beneficial exercise in terms of stimulating communication with other focuses, bringing back memories, so to speak?

ELIAS: If you are choosing to move in that direction. You may incorporate that action and if you are allowing yourself, you may generate stimulating your awareness of other focuses. That is not the only manner in which you may be creating that, but it may be an expression of fun and an interesting exploration in association with your focus now, allowing yourself to tap into abilities that you incorporate in other focuses.

NATASHA: I have a question, if you don’t mind. What about that blackout thing? What was this presentation about? Was it a manifestation of a wave in consciousness? What was it about, that we had the day before yesterday?

ELIAS: I have expressed an explanation of this, in that collectively you are generating a tremendous surge in energy.

Now; this is associated, yes, with this wave in consciousness in addressing to the belief system of truths, and it is also a collective expression associated with a turning of energy which is occurring in this present time framework, which is also affecting of this phenomenon and this interaction that I engage with all of you.

DANIIL: So we created the blackout, in a matter of speaking.

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: We are to blame.

ELIAS: It is not a matter of blame, my friend. It is a matter of noticing and paying attention to what you create, what you take for granted, so to speak, and what you express in your truths, and in this, also recognizing your power.

DANIIL: For me, I thought of it as being connected because electricity connected all of us, and we took it for granted. We had to experience life in a slightly different way and then feel connected again as we went through the same minor troubles.

ELIAS: I am understanding. Each of you shall generate your own individual imagery in association with what you have created, but the connecting element with all of you is that in association with the wave addressing to truths. For you do in many expressions take for granted your truths, and you do not recognize the powerfulness of them.

DANIIL: This event was much less traumatic than September 11. Does it mean we’re moving in more peaceful directions in our expressions or not?

ELIAS: That may be somewhat difficult to be answering, for that is a choice collectively. You are engaging choices now in association with this wave, and if you are choosing to move with it and incorporating that movement in an empowerment, yes; but if you are not choosing to move with it and if you are choosing to force energy against it, no.

DANIIL: So those of us who choose to trust the shift of consciousness and trust the new opportunities that open up, they generally shall experience more ease and less traumatic expressions as compared to those who are afraid or choose not to follow the Shift.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes. But in this time framework, the movement of the Shift is also being expressed in this wave in consciousness, and this wave is quite significant for it may generate considerable trauma or it may generate considerable freedom.

But you have chosen to be moving in a direction of jostling yourselves, so to speak, and creating expressions that you pay attention to and that you shall stop and evaluate and genuinely pay attention to your individual energies and what you are actually doing. Which in actuality, as I have stated previously, incorporates the potential to be tremendously liberating and tremendously empowering. Perhaps you may incorporate that tremendous power to generate fun experiences rather than outages with your power! Ha ha!

DANIIL: So, in other words, if enough of us generate fun, there would be perhaps no need to create mass destruction.

ELIAS: Correct. But there is no mass without individuals. There is no collective without individuals, and that is the reason that the individual is so very important.

NATASHA: I have a question. It is probably a very wide question, but anyway, I’m going to ask it. How does acceptance of beliefs happen? It’s just not a matter of saying okay, I accept this fact and that’s it. You should feel somehow different about it, or how does it happen? Not what happens after it happens, not when you really accepted something and you live — how does it happen, the process?

ELIAS: I am understanding and you are quite correct, you do not incorporate acceptance merely through thought, for thought does not create reality.

As you recognize a belief and you begin to examine the influences of that belief, and you genuinely are viewing your experiences within the expressions of the belief and you allow yourself to recognize that it is not an absolute and that the expression of it is unique to your perception — regardless that there are other individuals that appear to be expressing the same perception, each of you are unique and therefore each of your perceptions are unique and they are not identical — as you recognize in any belief that it is not an absolute and that it may be what YOU choose to express but it is not threatening to you if other individuals express differently, you have moved out of the expression of judgment.

And you are correct, your experience shall be quite different, for that is the point in which you may genuinely express it matters not, and this is the expression of not generating a judgment. Not that the expression does not matter, but that there is no longer the judgment in association with it.

Now; I am understanding that this may be somewhat confusing for as I have stated previously, duplicity is also a belief system, and it is not being eliminated either. But that is the point of recognizing your preferences. You continue to incorporate your opinion and your preferences, which are merely preferred beliefs, but you also recognize genuinely that that expression is your own and is unique to you, and that any differences that may be expressed by any other individual within your world is not wrong and it also is not threatening to you. Therefore, there is no need to be defending or convincing in different directions to be the same as you.

NATASHA: How do I recognize that I accepted something, that some actions that others perform or others are doing, they do not ignite in me negative emotions or negative feelings?

ELIAS: Correct.

Now; also understand that acceptance is not an expression that is produced once and therefore is everlasting, subsequently. Acceptance is an action that is generated in each moment.

DANIIL: I wanted to ask, now that you handed me Bernstein, I want to ask for another challenge. What would be the focus to investigate, your suggestion?

ELIAS: In relation to what?

DANIIL: I liked trying to connect to one of my other focuses. I liked the challenge, so if you can give me one that I may try to access.

NATASHA: He wants more now!

ELIAS: (Laughs) Very well! I shall choose one that does not incorporate notoriety, and therefore you shall be incorporating the action of genuinely listening to your impressions and creating your visualizations to access it. I may offer to you a female individual, time framework early 1700s, physical location Turkey. I may express to you that this individual is quite colorful.

DANIIL: Thank you very much. Our time is almost over...

NATASHA: It is over.

DANIIL: I just wanted to ask you one quick one. Doing sessions like this together, does that present any challenge to you as to focusing on one of us or the other, or is it okay and beneficial?

ELIAS: It does not present any challenge. (Laughs)

DANIIL: Okay. Our appreciation to you. Thank you very much.

NATASHA: Elias, thank you so much!

ELIAS: You are very welcome, both of you, and I express my tremendous affection and friendship to you both. I shall be anticipating our next meeting, my friends. To you my friends, au revoir.

DANIIL & NATASHA: Au revoir, bye-bye.

Elias departs at 9:38 AM.

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