Tuesday, May 20, 2003 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Deane (Leland)

Elias arrives at 10:34 AM. (Arrival time is 17 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

DEANE: Good morning, my friend! How in the world are you?

ELIAS: (Laughs) As always, and yourself?

DEANE: It is so good to hear your voice. Well, I’m not particularly objectively happy with some of my creations, as you probably know. I was relating some to Mary here. And I’m still a-learnin’, boy! (Elias laughs) But anyway, I have a couple of quick questions for others.

ELIAS: Very well.

DEANE: Is the actress Patricia McCormick, who played in the movie “The Bad Seed,” a focus of Pat/Fryolla? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

DEANE: Now, Sandy/Allesander has told me that he has the impression that I, Deane, have a focus as the Civil War general, Nathan Bedford Forrest. I think I am an observing essence. I’d like to know who is correct, or are we both in error?

ELIAS: You are correct.

DEANE: As an aside to this, I recently went to a Civil War reenactment and got quite emotional as I was watching the battle ensue, which was complete with cannons and all. I still can’t figure out the message of the emotions I was having. It was so overwhelming at times that I even cried some. Could you enlighten me, sir?

ELIAS: This would be a response to more than one focus — in a manner of speaking, a bleed-through. In this, you do incorporate other focuses that are of you that participate in that event in different capacities, not in the role of what you term to be leadership, but as soldiers in that event. There was expressed great passion in these individuals’ convictions and also a tremendous affectingness in the actual participation in these actions. In your viewing of this, what you have presented to yourself is somewhat of a remembrance and...

DEANE: I thought something like that, but I was thinking, gee whiz, unless I’m misunderstanding, Elias says that emotions are never a reaction to, they’re always a communication.

ELIAS: Correct.

DEANE: So I’m saying, okay, what am I communicating to myself here? And you say it’s a bleed-through.

ELIAS: Correct, but understand that in this emotional communication, what you are expressing to yourself is one, a validation of yourself; two, you are also offering yourself a communication in association with your preferences and your passion within yourself, as similar to the passions of these other individuals, but directed in a different manner.

DEANE: Is American artist Alexander Calder a focus of Sandy/Allesander?

ELIAS: Observing essence.

DEANE: And one more, the Greek playwright Aeschylus, is he a focus of Sandy/Allesander?

ELIAS: No.

DEANE: Then one quick confirmation question for me — when my Egyptian focus Khufuru and priestess Ashee Anah, who is a focus of Pat/Fryolla, when we broke up, she later changed her mind about me. But it all went to hell again when she caught Khufuru making love to a very fine lady around the back of the temple. (Elias grins) Now, my impression is that this lady was a focus of Anjuli. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEANE: Ah ha! I thought so. Are you ready for the heavy-duty stuff sir?

ELIAS: I am quite prepared! (Both laugh)

DEANE: I know you, lurking around here — of course with my permission! You know I still see your blue and I still see the colors, and I thank you for that, Elias. Though I don’t need any, it’s still good to feel that sense of security when I see that. (Both laugh) So thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friend.

DEANE: The A-N-D pyramid — I need some information to clarify the status of our A-N-D group and the pyramid you said we were forming. My impressions are that the pyramid is becoming actualized now with people at these locations: north would be Jim/Andrel; south, Anji/Myranda; east is Sandy/Allesander; west would be me, Deane/Leland. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Correct.

DEANE: Now, as to the fifth point and the peak, I have had and still have the impression that a major event is tied into this fifth point. I think an entity from the event itself, perhaps an entity from Atlantis or an extraterrestrial, is the fifth point. Can you confirm that?

ELIAS: Other dimensional, yes.

DEANE: I also feel that this event is actualizing now, and our A-N-D group is actualizing now in concert with this event. Are my impressions correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEANE: I want to go for three out of three here. (Both laugh) I also feel that the Great Pyramid of Cheops at Giza and the other two pyramids in that complex are involved in this event. I feel this is tied in some way to information regarding the origins of mankind on this planet. I also get the impression that the Giza plateau with its three pyramids is a marker or beacon of sorts in this mass event. Are my impressions correct?

ELIAS: In association with energy, yes.

DEANE: Can you expand on that just a tad so we can understand?

ELIAS: In association with a focal point in relation to these constructs, as a directing point, so to speak, of energy, yes, you are correct.

DEANE: Well, let’s see now. Is the plan that Atlantis will be inserted in our reality? My impression is yes.

ELIAS: Not now. This remains a potential, but not actually a chosen probability yet.

DEANE: Not a chosen probability, YET.

ELIAS: Correct. There is a potential, but that would be based, so to speak, upon a collective choice which has not been generated yet.

DEANE: I see. See, I’m having difficulty putting this all together to even ask the right questions. You said that the fifth point would be a person that would be from another dimension.

ELIAS: Correct.

DEANE: Now there are two areas there. One is our alien friends that we call the gray squishys, and then of course Atlantis. That’s also of another dimension, but I’m not sure that those are the same dimension or not.

ELIAS: No, they are not. There are many other-dimensional focuses in which individuals within your dimension are presently allowing themselves to either be interactive with or are tapping into and recognizing. This is another factor in this choice, continuing to be a potential other than an actual chosen probability. For there is fluctuation in energy in association with other physical dimensions and your interaction with them.

DEANE: This leads to the question of Atlantis ever being a part of the past of our existing reality. I mean, we’ve got Plato and other references to it, as if it actually existed here at one time in our past. But you say that’s incorrect.

ELIAS: Correct. This is not to say that it is not real, for it is, and individuals have been tapping into that reality for an extensive time framework. These are actual, real other focuses of essences that participate in your dimension, and there are definite bleed-throughs that occur in association with that physical dimension and others also.

DEANE: You see, in our last session, I think it was (6/28/01), where we were discussing Frances, who was my friend from back in the 1950s, and the actual, direct contact we had with a gentleman named Caro and his family in that dimension. At that time, you said that some of that was a translation. Well, I can understand some of that being a translation, but we had assumed that it was in existence in our past and we were just sort of going backwards in time there.

ELIAS: Which I am understanding. In association with the bleed-through occurrences, it appears to many of you that this would be a past association, for it has been bleeding through for quite some time framework. But even in present time frameworks, the association with that dimension and with the manifestations continues to be past. Are you understanding?

DEANE: I think so.

ELIAS: Even individuals now that may be tapping into the focuses and the scenarios and the experiences in that physical dimension are not tapping into what they perceive to be a present time framework. They are tapping into what they view to be a past time framework, which perpetuates the association that this was a past culture within your physical dimension, for the individuals do not consistently offer themselves any present information.

DEANE: I have a question here — of course, it was predicated on the actualization of Atlantis, and it still may be an alien contact. Let me just say that as I understand it, our physical existence exists in a way, shall we say, at a certain vibratory rate, and I get the impression that we are accelerating this rate as the shift progresses and as...

ELIAS: Correct.

DEANE: ...and as we do, this actualization of Atlantis, should that come around, and alien contact will come into being, just as a change in hearing or vision would allow us to hear the high sounds that only a dog can hear now, or see light in the infra-red spectrum. So with this increase in vibratory rate, if you want to call it that, with this change our ability to perceive Atlantis or our gray alien squishy friends would become actualized and an active part of our reality in this dimension. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Yes, it can be. But this also is a choice, for it would be the choice of the individuals, or perhaps even the choice of a collective in a particular location or culture, to be allowing that type of insertion and interaction, for not all individuals within your physical reality may be choosing to participate in that type of expression. Are you understanding?

DEANE: Yes, I do, and of course that leads back to our A-N-D pyramid and the event that’s actualizing now, as you say, and the fifth point of the pyramid being an essence from another dimension. Are we talking about another dimension that is not of the squishys, as we call them, and not of Atlantis, but another dimension then?

ELIAS: This is what I was expressing to you previously. There is a fluctuation. Therefore, there is a fluctuation in energy in association with an essence that is focused in what you identify as Atlantis but also incorporates another focus in another physical dimension. Not that of what you interpret as your...

DEANE: Squishys?

ELIAS: Yeah. (Both laugh heartily)

DEANE: I love you, boy! You all right! (Both laugh) That’s how we say it here in the South.

ELIAS: (Humorously) Yes, sir! No, not the squishys! (Both crack up)

DEANE: Oh, I love it!

ELIAS: But there is another physical dimension that this essence does participate within in addition to that of the Atlantis, and the fluctuation concerns which dimension shall be participating. It more leans in the probability of the Atlantis. But as I have stated, there is a fluctuation with this other physical dimension, but it is the same essence.

DEANE: I assume this same essence you are speaking of now, the fifth point of our A-N-D pyramid, will... Well, obviously this essence will have to make themselves known to us, us other four.

ELIAS: Yes — or you known to it.

DEANE: You know, here we get into, how shall we say... Our pyramid has a reason for being. I mean, we’re forming it for a reason, correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEANE: Would it be correct to call this reason for being a mission? Would this be the correct word for an adequate description?

ELIAS: Not necessarily a mission, but you do incorporate a purpose, so to speak, and the direction of a cooperative and a shared direction and a shared intention of exploration.

DEANE: What I’m questioning now in my mind is how could the four of us who are the base of the pyramid function in that regard without knowledge of the essence who is the fifth point?

ELIAS: Oh, you may, for whether you incorporate an objective knowledge of or awareness of the fifth point does not hinder the movement that you are collectively creating with the shared intention and direction.

DEANE: This shared intention and direction, could you enlighten us on that a little bit? I know that we know about it subjectively, but objectively I’m sort of in a fog here.

ELIAS: The intention is to be dramatically thinning this veil of separation between your physical dimension and other physical dimensions, and in association with the intention of this particular exploration that you are collectively creating, it is to be facilitating travel associated with different physical dimensions, and therefore also facilitating interaction between these physical dimensions, which this is also quite directly associated with this shift in consciousness.

DEANE: That sort of goes along with some impressions that I had earlier.

ELIAS: In this particular exploration, the reason that I express to you that perhaps it shall be the movement of you within this dimension to be accessing information of the other essence within the other dimensions rather than the reverse is that in association with this shift in consciousness, as I have stated previously, other physical dimensions are not participating in this shift in consciousness. It is exclusive to your physical dimension. Therefore, the impetus is with you to generate these explorations and thinning these veils of separation.

DEANE: I gotcha. Now, of course you’re talking of a collective “you,” meaning us four points.

ELIAS: Yes.

DEANE: Do you want to put a timeframe on this or give us some kind of an idea when this will fully materialize?

ELIAS: This would be your choice, and it is dependant upon how you move together in cooperation to be, in a manner of speaking, generating that contact with the other point. Therefore, it would be highly inaccurate to estimate a time framework. What you are generating is a similar action to what was generated by the individuals generating the pyramid points in association with this phenomenon, facilitating this forum in which I participate with all of you and the individuals that expressed identification of those points.

Now; for a time framework, the fifth point of the pyramid was objectively unknown to the other four but was no less participating. And in this, even in the creation of the objective participation of the fifth point, the movement of those individuals fluctuated. They incorporate a common direction and agenda, so to speak, in what you may term to be furthering the exposure of this phenomenon and generating greater interaction with...

DEANE: Let me interrupt you here and say that in regard to the intent of this group, this will be quite a public thing. Is that correct?

ELIAS: There is significant potential in association with that, yes. But that also is what I am expressing to you in relation to the involvement with all of the points. For although the intention was to be quite public with this information, in association with the five pyramid points in relation to this phenomenon, many times that was hindered in association with different individuals participating as the points.

DEANE: I guess what we need to do is get our act together, right? (Both laugh)

ELIAS: I may express to you in encouragement that eventually the intention does become actualized, and you may incorporate the other pyramid as an example of that.

DEANE: Now, you say “the other pyramid.” Are you talking about the one of Mary, Vicki, Ron and so on and so forth?

ELIAS: Yes. Although there were times in which there was a hindrance of the movement and times in which different individuals of those points were blocking some of the movement and the energy of the intended direction and agenda, eventually they did allow themselves to pull together and create that expression of facilitating that agenda.

DEANE: In regard to this agenda, I’d like to give you three dates that Sandy/Allesander has discussed with me and some brief impressions of his, and ask you if they have anything to do with our A-N-D pyramid and this event. He says: 2004, his impression is harmonizing subjective and objective; 2009, intent fully flowers; 2014, mass events materialize — he doesn”t know what. He also notes the five-year cycle in these dates. Does that have anything to do with this major event that we’re talking about actualizing?

ELIAS: This is a speculation. It is a speculation associated with potentials, and it may be actualized in that time framework. But I may also express to you not to be directing your attention in association with absolutes.

DEANE: I understand that.

ELIAS: You may direct your energy and your attention to be attempting to accomplish within these time frameworks if you are so choosing, and allow this to serve as a motivational point, but not to focus upon absolutes and therefore potentially generate disappointment or discounting of yourselves if you are not absolutely creating within specific time frameworks.

DEANE: That would be important, because I know I have felt that disappointment when things didn’t go within the time framework that I expected or intended.

ELIAS: Correct, and that also generates automatic responses in discounting of yourselves, which in actuality is affecting of your movement, and which has occurred with the other pyramid also in different expressions, which hindered their movement.

DEANE: One last question in regard to our A-N-D pyramid and this event. Last year, unordered via overseas registered mail from Asia, I received a DVD of a movie titled “The Others.” It was directed by a man named Alejandro Amenabar. I watched it but did not observe anything out of the ordinary, except some occasional stuff that appeared to be like static on the screen. I’d appreciate you enlightening me as to the significance of this event. I thought it might be tied into Sandy/Allesander in some way because of the director’s name.

ELIAS: Offer to myself your impression as to what you have presented to yourself.

DEANE: Well, I think it had to do with an underscoring of the validity of the A-N-D pyramid.

ELIAS: Partially, you are correct. In association with...

DEANE: With Sandy particularly, because of the director’s name and Sandy’s name.

ELIAS: And also in association with manifestations unseen, and that although they are unseen, it is not to say that they are not quite real and present.

DEANE: You said in another session with someone else that the Bermuda Triangle, as we call it, was a window to these other dimensions. This would be to Atlantis, also, is that correct?

ELIAS: Correct.

DEANE: As a little aside here, I think during the second World War we had a flight that left Miami and got lost. We had some recordings of their last radio transmissions. Did these guys just fly into another dimension? I mean, they were never seen or heard from again.

ELIAS: Yes. It is a portal and it is quite real.

DEANE: How about that! So what is their status now? I mean, when they flew into it, did they go to another planet Earth that’s similar to ours? Did they know what was happening?

ELIAS: Upon arrival, yes.

Now; let me also express to you, this portal is not such that it within your terms sucks individuals into it and transports you to some other location or physical dimension that you are not a willing participant with.

DEANE: I’m glad you said that! (Laughs)

ELIAS: In this, individuals that disappear, so to speak, in association with this portal, choose to be engaging that exploration.

DEANE: One last question in that regard. I guess our A-N-D pyramid could use that, couldn’t we?

ELIAS: If you are so choosing. Or you may also choose less dramatic manners in which you may be connecting with other dimensional focuses.

Those individuals that move into that portal are choosing a specific expression and direction, and what they choose is to move physically from one dimension to another — not to discontinue in this dimension and subsequently move into another physical dimension, but in a manner of speaking to split open the separation veil between the dimensions and physically move from one to another and to continue in the other, leaving this physical dimension.

DEANE: Gee. That would be a cool experience! I’m just running that through my head here. (Elias laughs)

Well, I have a number of unrelated questions here.

ELIAS: Very well.

DEANE: I was explaining to Mary about some events that happened to me last year and some this year. I was riding my lawnmower. You know I’m a lawnmower man and I love to cut my lawn. I’m hearing this chirp, chirp, chirp in my left ear, and I’m thinking it’s my left front wheel bearing. This continues on, and I service my mower and grease it and all, but I keep hearing the damn thing and it’s getting irritating because I can’t find my squeaking bearing. Then one day I’m just out and about in my yard and I start hearing this chirp, and the dawn of understanding arises in that it was me! It was this chirp in my left ear, and it had nothing to do with the mower! (Both laugh)

ELIAS: And your impression as to what you have presented to yourself?

DEANE: Well, evidently I’m not getting the message very well. About ten days ago, a tree branch fell on my ear and damaged it pretty good — pretty bloody — and there’s my wife, Sandy, who has been coughing at night, waking me up at these ungodly hours, happened again this morning. I know I’m creating that, so something’s not getting through, Elias. There’s also an event that has nothing to do with hearing, except for my comments, when I took a butcher knife and I was chopping on the cutting board and I chopped my left finger all the way down to the bone.

I know that all of these things say “are you not listening?” And I’m saying “listening to what?” I need some help and some guidance here, sir.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Very well.

Now; I may express to you, first of all, that the sound within your ear is associated with your concentration upon energy in association with other dimensions.

Now; The other events are...

DEANE: The branch and Sandy’s coughing?

ELIAS: ...are related to each other. What you are communicating to yourself is associated with listening to yourself, but if you are paying attention, the commonality in these events, and your finger also, is that you choose to present this to yourself in association with the same side.

DEANE: All on my left side — my wife lies in bed on my left side.

ELIAS: Now; this is significant as the common denominator, so to speak, for it concerns listening to yourself, but it also is associated with the left, which is the identification of intellectual. The identification is that you concentrate much more so upon the intellectual and not as strongly in the intuitional communications.

DEANE: So this is saying that I should concentrate a little more on the intuitional communication?

ELIAS: Yes, to be listening to your communications more clearly and therefore offering yourself much more accurate information, for the intellectual focuses more upon thought, which is not a communication.

DEANE: That’s enlightening right there.

Another little validation and some confirmation regarding Franz Joseph and his wife Sisi — I had some impressions, and some more recent ones, about a ring Franz Joseph got for Sisi that he hid in a special place, which he never gave to Sisi. I think that Anji, in doing some finger response exercises with you, got quite a confirmation from you that this was correct. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEANE: Now, I’ve had some more recent impressions that there might be a couple of other items there, that maybe the ring and a bracelet and necklace were matching. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEANE: I have this picture in my head — and I’m not sure which castle or palace that it was in — but I see this entrance, it’s a small entranceway with some cabinets and drawers on the left hand side as you’re entering a bedroom area. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEANE: And it’s there underneath or behind some drawers. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Was.

DEANE: That was correct, but is not now correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEANE: When did it change from was correct to not now correct? Just recently?

ELIAS: Not necessarily recently — in a time framework approximately forty years prior to now.

DEANE: About 1960?

ELIAS: Your impression and your visualization is correct in association with the original placement.

DEANE: But my impression was that they were still there right now and we could go to them.

ELIAS: No. It has been moved.

DEANE: The next question I want to ask is are these available to be seen by the public? Did the person who found them make them available...

ELIAS: No.

DEANE: ...or have they been stolen, or what?

ELIAS: They are not available to the public, so to speak. Let me clarify, also. They have not been stolen, either. They have merely been moved.

DEANE: I assume they were discovered accidentally, then, some forty years ago.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, although there are no accidents. The individual that discovered these items did not actually keep them but did move them.

DEANE: Here’s an unrelated question about creating reality for others. In session #1252 (1/18/03), you said that, quote, no circumstance, no situation, no scenario may create your choices or your reality for you, end quote. Now if a person creates a judge making a specific decision that they want, isn’t that creating that specific reality for the judge? The same goes for Letty and Leezar — you said that she created his distraction with another girl. Now, isn’t that also letting Letty create Leezar’s reality for him?

ELIAS: No. For what Leezar generates or what the judge generates in their reality may not be identical to what the other individual is creating.

DEANE: Okay, now here’s the question. Let’s assume I go before the judge and the judge generates a year in jail for me. And I say to myself okay, I’m not generating that, I’m generating not guilty. Well, you have a judge saying “not guilty” and you have a judge saying “one year in jail for Deane.” Are you saying that both of these probabilities exist at the same time and I have my choice of either?

ELIAS: It is not a question of choosing either probability. It is a matter of generating a probability, creating a probability, and other probabilities are actualized in that moment in association with the choice.

Now; let me express to you, there are no accidents. Therefore, if you are generating in your reality a scenario in which you are appearing before a judge, you have drawn that to yourself, and the other individuals that are participating are specifically participating in association with your energy and you with their energy. Therefore, if you are creating a direction in which you are moving into an expression of creating incorporating a year within your jail, you shall generate this scenario in a manner in which shall draw to yourself other participants which will facilitate that action with you.

DEANE: So that will all fit in because of what I am drawing to me and it’s fitting into their picture, too.

ELIAS: Correct. You do at times generate two different realities, but that is infrequent. It is possible and you do offer yourself evidence of that in that it actually does occur, but it is quite infrequent. For the most part, you draw to yourself quite specifically in every scenario other individuals that shall participate in creating the reality that you are expressing in your direction. If you choose not to be incorporating that year in your jail, you shall draw to yourself a different judge and different individuals participating in the scenario to generate that outcome.

DEANE: I understand. Getting down to the bottom line here...

Now, this is regarding C9. Margot told me that while having a drink and relaxing one evening, she received an impression from you that C9 is an associate of yours, implying that you and C9 are engaged in a joint venture to provide valid information to us. Margot even maintains a number of lists where the requirement is a validation by you or C9 to be placed on the list. To me, this imparts a validity to C9’s information by putting it in a class with you. My impression is that although this is done in fun, it remains a deception and the information provided cannot be relied upon as we can rely upon the information that you provide. Are my impressions correct?

ELIAS: I may express to you, your impressions are partially correct. I am not expressing interaction with that essence in association with this information or in association with the energy exchanges. I may also express to you that there is some element of distortion in association with the information that is presented by C9, which the individuals that participate with C9 are quite aware of that element of distortion.

Now; this is not to say that the information that is presented by C9 is invalid, for it is not. There is an offering of valid information which is expressed by C9.

DEANE: So it’s up to us, then, to determine what’s valid and what’s not.

ELIAS: And this is the reason that many times individuals validate some of the information that is offered by C9 through myself, for there is some element of distortion in that information. But this is not to say that all of the information is invalid.

DEANE: Of course, my concern in any of this, which is why I talk to you to begin with, is how are my impressions, the information in other sources, in books, what people say and everything, can I rely on it in spite of the fact that I know I’m creating all of my reality — at least I think I do! (Both laugh) I still have my doubts, as you well know. I guess we all are still riding in that same boat.

ELIAS: Which is quite significant, for as you offer yourself validation, you also reinforce your trust of yourself. In this, as you engage this conversation with myself and you recognize that your impressions are valid but at times maybe somewhat black and white, this offers you information in which you may evaluate. You may listen to your impressions and trust yourself that you are offering yourself valid information, but also to be examining the impressions that you offer to yourself to evaluate expressions in which you may be moving in an absolute direction or a rigidness in the black and white of the scenario. Are you understanding?

DEANE: Yes, and I know rigidness is one of my hallmarks in a number of ways! (Elias laughs) As of late, as well as in the past, but particularly over the last few weeks I have been... Well, let me just put it this way. Is it correct when I think that I’m hearing your voice in my head, that I’m hearing your voice?

ELIAS: Yes.

DEANE: I thought so! That provides its own validation, Elias. Thank you so much for your help.

ELIAS: (Laughs) You are quite welcome, my friend!

DEANE: Of course, my favorite last question — is there anything further that you might have to say to me that you think would be beneficial to me in a good way? It’s worth a cognac! (Laughs)

ELIAS: What I shall express to you is remember to raise a glass with me.

DEANE: Ah! You count on that, sir! (Both laugh)

ELIAS: And notice that my energy is present! (Laughs)

DEANE: Well, that being the case, sir, I think I will say goodbye, though it pains me deeply. (Elias laughs)

ELIAS: There is no goodbye, my friend, merely farewell. (Laughs)

DEANE: I understand, but you know where I’m coming from and what I’m saying. I mean, when I can reach out and see your color or touch you or hear your voice, I understand that there is no goodbye. Let’s just say that the importance of this objective-to-objective contact that we have right now over the phone provides its own reward in its own special way.

ELIAS: And perhaps we shall meet again in physical proximity.

DEANE: Let’s say that we do. Count on it, my friend. (Elias laughs)

ELIAS: To you as always, my dear friend, in tremendous affection, great lovingness and wondrous appreciation, my comrade, Leland.

DEANE: And to you my friend, a good evening — a good day.

ELIAS: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 11:37 AM.

(1) See , 7/16/02.

(2) Deane’s note: First time I have ever heard Elias saying “yeah”! (Transcriber’s note: Me too, Deane!)

(3) For information on the pyramid interaction facilitating the Elias phenomenon and forum, see , 7/27/97.

(4) Deane’s note: The movie “The Others” is a story of a small group of people who do not realize they are dead, their experiences and the experiences of living people around them. Obviously Elias knows the theme of the movie without having seen it ... or has he?

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