Friday, March 28, 2003 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and a new participant, Hea (Kira)

Elias arrives at 10:15 AM. (Arrival time is 19 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

HEA: Good morning. (Elias chuckles) Elias?

ELIAS: Yes?

HEA: Hi. I’ve been waiting for this for quite a while now.

ELIAS: (Laughs) And how shall we proceed?

HEA: Well, first of all, do you know all about me?

ELIAS: In what capacity?

HEA: In all capacities — if you know everything.

ELIAS: Ah!

HEA: Do you know my name, what I’m all about, why I’m in touch with you and all of that?

ELIAS: I may express to you that I am familiar with your energy.

HEA: You are. I just wanted to know; I have a lot of curiosity. (Elias laughs) So tell me about me. Tell me about my energy first. I have other questions that are written, but without me asking you any questions I’d like you to tell me about my energy.

ELIAS: And what do you wish to know that you already do not know?

HEA: Good question! (Elias laughs) I probably know all that I want to know, if I look deep inside. But I’m not there yet. Shall we proceed? Should I start asking you questions?

ELIAS: Very well.

HEA: You didn’t sound like you wanted to just come right out and tell me about my energy.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Let me express to you, my friend, I offer information to individuals to be helpful in association with familiarizing themselves with themselves in relation to their beliefs and their movement within this shift in consciousness. But I do not engage parlor tricks.

HEA: No, it isn’t parlor tricks. That wasn’t... Maybe it was, if you know more than me. But anyway...

ELIAS: I may express to you, I do not know more than you. I merely remember. You are the same as myself, my friend. You are an essence, as am I, and therefore you possess all of the same qualities as do I. You merely have chosen to be focusing this attention within this particular physical dimension, which in the design of this dimension you have chosen to not be incorporating your remembrance for the purity of your experience within this physical reality.

HEA: But now I’m trying to re-remember who I was, what I am.

ELIAS: Correct, for you are participating in this shift in consciousness.

HEA: Yes, and it’s not easy. I’m trying to have an illumination or an awakening, and I need guidance. I don’t know how to go about it. What do I do? How do I go about awakening myself?

ELIAS: By paying attention to you.

HEA: To my inner self?

ELIAS: To all of you, to all that you do, paying attention to your beliefs and what influences your perception, how you manipulate your energy, what you actually do in each of your days, in each of your moments, how you project energy, what motivates you, and what influences are expressed in relation to your beliefs, and by listening to your communications that you offer to yourself and expressing a trust and an acceptance of yourself. This is how you illuminate yourself.

HEA: I am trying to have faith in myself. I still don’t have enough faith in myself. I distrust myself; yes, you’re right.

Another point is the influences. Yes, I’ve been trying to be aware of everything that I’m thinking and doing every moment as much as I can. The outside influences are affecting me, and it’s very hard for me to control that, especially someone that’s close to me like my mother and father. I have a long life issue with them, and yet they still live with me. I think deep down I resent them, and I know it’s not good because that resentment is creating negative energy that’s blocking the good positive energy from flowing in. I don’t know what to do about that. Can you help me with that?

ELIAS: Very well. First of all, let us examine this situation. In this, what do you perceive to be the reason that you harbor this resentment or that you express these issues with your parents?

HEA: Ever since I was growing up with my parents, there seemed to be so much anger in my house between my parents. I resent that. It’s so much negativity, so much hate. Everything that I dislike, they were — negative, angry, critical.

ELIAS: Very well.

HEA: I could never do anything right, in my mother’s eyes.

ELIAS: And now?

HEA: Now it’s gotten better. But I still see her that way, and I’ve been fighting that. But every little thing that she does gets to me. I just tell myself to forgive her, but I guess I can’t.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, forgiveness is not necessarily what it appears to be and is not necessarily what you would term to be an actual positive action.

Now; what is significant is allowing you to move your attention to you, rather than continuing to project your attention to your parents. For as you concern yourself with the expressions or the choices of your parents, you do not pay attention to what your choices are. THIS is what generates this expression of resentment, not actually concerning...

HEA: Elias, I was thinking, also, I still believe that I chose my parents because everything they do I’m against. I think they’re my greatest teachers of what not to become. Is that the reason why I chose them?

ELIAS: Partially, and also partially to allow yourself the opportunity to genuinely understand and experience acceptance.

HEA: Acceptance on my part?

ELIAS: Yes.

HEA: To accept them for what they are and who they are?

ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, in your own acceptance of yourself, an automatic by-product is to be accepting of other individuals.

HEA: So you’re saying I still am not accepting myself?

ELIAS: Correct, and not paying attention.

HEA: You’re right, because I always had low self-esteem. I used to hate myself, and I think that happened because of my parents. I guess I’m blaming them, when I shouldn’t.

ELIAS: It is not a question of what you should be or should not be doing. It is a question of reality and understanding that reality and therefore allowing yourself to move your attention and change your perception.

Your perception creates all of your reality. Every moment, every thing, every individual, every scenario is generated through your perception. There are influences in relation to your perception; those influences are your beliefs. But if you are unaware of what your beliefs are and if you are unaware of what you are actually doing, you also do not change your perception and you limit yourself tremendously.

Now; the point in this is to allow you your individual freedom.

HEA: Freedom is the key word. I want freedom, and I feel like my parents are not letting me have the freedom. They’re in the way.

ELIAS: Now; it is NOT within their power to block you, for they do not create your reality and they do not create your choices.

HEA: I don’t want to live with them, but I can’t throw them out of my house! What do I do about that?

ELIAS: Examine why you have chosen to incorporate this relationship in the manner that it is expressed.

HEA: It seems like with the situation, outside influences, circumstances, led me to this.

ELIAS: No.

HEA: At the time, I was single. I needed their help to raise my children while I go out to work.

ELIAS: And now?

HEA: It seemed like at that time, it was inevitable to ask them for help. Since then they’ve been living with me, and I can’t ask them to move out. Part of me wants to live without them, but part of me feels obligated to live with them.

ELIAS: This is the key, what you have stated — obligation — which is not paying attention to you and not listening to your own communications, and binds you in a direction that is not necessarily associated with your preferences and your freedom.

HEA: To me, it would be a cruel thing to tell them to leave because my mother is very fearful. She’s very dependent. I don’t have the heart to do that.

ELIAS: Very well. But you incorporate more choices than merely the black and white. You are not limited to merely the choices of the either/or — either you continue in this situation in this environment with these individuals or you do not. There are more choices than merely these.

HEA: I don’t want to, but I feel like I have to. Like I said, obligation. It’s the way we’ve been taught in society.

ELIAS: Do you value your freedom?

HEA: I’ve been always seeking freedom. I do want to be free.

ELIAS: Very well. I express to you, regardless of this expression of obligation, first of all, as yourself, they also create their reality. This is their choice.

HEA: Yes, and I cannot live around their negativity. It’s very hard for me, more and more! It’s a dilemma for me.

ELIAS: What do you perceive to be your payoff in continuing in this direction?

HEA: My payoff? Nothing. Just an obligation as a daughter fulfilling her responsibility to her parents, that’s what I see.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend...

HEA: Sacrifice perhaps, which I don’t do but I have to.

ELIAS: No, no, no, no. You do not HAVE TO generate ANY choice.

HEA: But if I do take the freedom, I will be guilt-ridden in the future.

ELIAS: Not necessarily. This is what you have chosen to engage conversation with myself concerning. This is what you are seeking, and you are seeking information as to how you may accomplish.

Now; initially let us set aside this idea of continuing or discontinuing with your parents, and let us move in a different direction and...

HEA: This problem that I have with my parents, it also extends to other parts of my life, like work.

ELIAS: I am quite aware.

HEA: It’s parallel.

ELIAS: Correct.

Now; let us perhaps explore other actions that you may engage that may be helpful in altering your perception and allowing you to express more trust of yourself and therefore express more of your freedom and not concern yourself with the absolute of disengaging the environment with your parents. But perhaps for a temporary time framework you may be engaging exercises that shall allow you to move your attention and become more flexible and also to become more familiar with you.

Now; in this, perhaps you may engage the action of noticing each time you begin to project your attention to your mother and are not paying attention to you.

Now; this occurs in time frameworks in which you are not actually even physically engaging this individual but you may be projecting your attention in thought concerning this individual.

Now; each time that you notice that you are projecting your attention away from yourself, acknowledge yourself, for you are noticing.

Now; once you are noticing, allow yourself to stop and move your attention to some aspect of you in the present now. Allow yourself to choose one expression of yourself that you appreciate within yourself, and acknowledge that. The point of this exercise is to interrupt your automatic familiar patterns, which allows you to move your attention.

You have become very familiar with holding your attention in certain directions and continuing to reinforce expressions within yourself of blame and judgment. The point is to interrupt those patterns and those automatic responses. Recognize that if you are experiencing discomfort in association with your parents, this is being generating from within you, not from them.

Now; let me also offer to you another exercise for the moments in which you are physically engaging these individuals and you are experiencing frustration or discomfort or anxiety. In those moments, as you begin to feel those feelings, those expressions surfacing within yourself, allow yourself to notice, stop and visualize yourself to be alone. In a manner of speaking, pretend that the other individual disappears. For a moment, allow yourself to magically generate the disappearance of the other individual, regardless of what they are expressing. In the moment that you generate that individual to be invisible and to not exist within your physical presence, examine what are you doing that is creating the feeling that you are experiencing — not what is the other individual doing, for they are now disappeared and no longer exist within your room. In this, examine what YOU are doing that generates these signals, these feelings.

Your feelings are signals. Beyond the signal is a message; that is a communication. Emotions are communications, and they are highly efficient for they also incorporate signals to gain your attention. The signal is the feeling. But the feeling does not offer you the communication; it does not offer you information. Once you identify the feeling and attach a term to it, such as disappointment, you may move your attention to the communication of that signal, what you are communicating to yourself. The manner in which you discover what that communication is is to pay attention to what you are actually doing in that moment.

Now; this may appear in this conversation to be quite simple or a simplistic exercise, but in actuality, I may express to you, I am quite aware of the challenge and the difficulty that is expressed in this action initially. As you practice it shall become easier, but initially it may be quite challenging.

For the automatic association as you ask yourself “what am I doing in this now,” is to move your attention once again automatically outside of yourself and express to yourself, “I am doing nothing! I am listening and the other individual is generating this action which is causing me discomfort.” No. That is the snare. Therefore, you may recognize the challenge in actually paying attention to what you are doing. Perhaps it appears to you that what you are doing is nothing but listening, but in actuality you have generated the scenario, so...

HEA: Why did I generate the scenario?

ELIAS: To engage this process.

HEA: To awaken, you mean?

ELIAS: In your terms, yes, to become familiar with you.

HEA: To become stronger, is that it?

ELIAS: Yes.

HEA: That’s what I thought also — do I dare to make me stronger? Is that the ultimate challenge for me?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking.

HEA: So through this way, I will gain my re-remembrance.

ELIAS: Yes.

HEA: So I’m almost there! Yes, Elias? Am I?

ELIAS: (Laughs) You are moving. It is not a race which incorporates a finish line, my friend.

HEA: I know, but I so much want to be there! You don’t understand. (Elias laughs) “What do I have to do to be there?” I keep asking myself. I meditate, I read, I examine myself, and I just am not seeing any result of this.

ELIAS: You may read and read and read, and you may think and think and think, and this is not necessarily what shall generate your freedom. What shall generate your freedom is to familiarize yourself with you and to genuinely pay attention to what you do.

HEA: Yes. I keep creating hard times for myself, with work, with my parents. I want to stop it but I keep creating it!

ELIAS: Pay attention to what motivates you, which may be quite enlightening.

HEA: I don’t know that yet. I think it has gotten better, but I still seem to be creating that. I still can’t hear my spirit guide or guardian angels. Is that supposed to be a sign that I’m awakening, if I hear my guardian angels or spirit guides? Is there a sign when I’m awakening, as the books all tell me? We have all the side effects, the prophecy, clairvoyance, on and on. Is that true?

ELIAS: Let me clarify. Yes, you do incorporate all of these abilities. Yes, you incorporate inner senses and you do incorporate the ability to be using those inner senses. Let me...

HEA: Am I using it now? To some degree I think I am.

ELIAS: Yes, but let me also express to you, there are many metaphysical beliefs which are in actuality associated with merely what you may term to be a new type of religious beliefs. In this I may express to you quite genuinely, there are no guides. There is no heaven, therefore there are no angels.

Now; let me also express to you, this is not to say that it is wrong or bad for any of you to generate associations in this manner temporarily as a type of focal point to focus your attention. Therefore...

HEA: What about yourself, Elias? You are like a spirit guide, actually. You’re a spirit, so therefore spirits do exist.

ELIAS: (Smiles) Let me express to you, my friend, I would not be what you consider to be a spirit. I am an energy personality essence. I am an aspect of consciousness, as are you also. But I am no greater or wiser than you. You occupy consciousness in the same capacity as do I.

HEA: No, you are what I call a spirit guide, because you are wise. I don’t know if you have all the wisdoms but you do know, to me, all wisdom. (Elias laughs) How can I get in touch with a teacher like you?

ELIAS: It has been your choice.

HEA: I want it, but I’m not hearing it.

ELIAS: You are hearing myself, although I may not necessarily define myself as a teacher. Ha ha!

HEA: But to me, you are a genuine teacher that I seek.

ELIAS: Very well. I shall allow this temporarily for I am understanding of the influence of your beliefs. In this, if you shall view myself in that manner, then perhaps you shall also incorporate my suggestions of the exercises that I have offered to you that you may allow yourself to become more familiar with you and therefore incorporate your own remembrance.

This is the point, my friend, not to be following me, but to be directing yourself and to be generating...

HEA: But sometimes I’m confused which road to follow! Whether I’m doing the right thing or the wrong thing, I am confused sometimes.

ELIAS: It is not a matter of the right or the wrong. It is a matter of what you choose and allowing yourself the freedom of your preferences.

Let me express to you, my friend, you have chosen to be manifest in this physical dimension to explore. This is the nature of consciousness. This is what consciousness generates — exploring. You are not moving in higher or lower levels. You are generating a natural expression of consciousness, exploring yourself.

HEA: Yes, and I want to explore more. But it’s not coming to me and therefore I become frustrated.

ELIAS: But you are offering yourself information. You are merely not acknowledging yourself that you are. Now generate a movement beyond acknowledgment and into genuine appreciation.

HEA: Genuine appreciation of myself or my environment or my manifestations?

ELIAS: All.

HEA: Is that what I haven’t been doing enough of? I haven’t been appreciating all?

ELIAS: Correct.

HEA: I thought I was though, Elias.

ELIAS: Let me express to you...

HEA: I’ve been accepting myself more and more now.

ELIAS: Yes.

HEA: I’m loving myself more than I’ve ever done.

ELIAS: I am understanding. But you continue to limit yourself, and that is not an expression of appreciation.

HEA: How do I limit myself?

ELIAS: In not allowing yourself to express freely and to express your preferences.

HEA: (Sighs) With my parents, is that what you mean?

ELIAS: Not merely your parents, my friend, but in many different aspects of your focus, in association with your beliefs in relation to your job, in relation to your role as a parent yourself, in relation to your friends.

HEA: I’m limiting myself with my friends? You mean Willy?

ELIAS: You limit yourself in many, many, many directions.

HEA: Tell me about Willy.

ELIAS: In what capacity?

HEA: Have we been together in the past lives?

ELIAS: Yes.

HEA: Who was he to me in my past lives prior to this?

ELIAS: You have engaged several relationships with this individual in different capacities.

HEA: Is that why there’s such a strong bond?

ELIAS: And a tremendous familiarity, yes.

HEA: Because sometimes I think he’s my soul mate.

ELIAS: One of, yes. You incorporate more than one soul mate.

HEA: Right, I do realize that. Is he my other half in this life?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And what would be the identification of “other half”?

HEA: To know if he’s the other half so I can be sure that he’s the right one to be married to, because I haven’t been very smart about that in the past. I’ve been unhappy with other marriages.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, perhaps you may examine this expression of your “other half,” for this implies that you are incomplete within yourself, and you are not. Coupling yourself with another individual is a choice to be sharing, not to be completed.

HEA: Right, but I do like that sharing, being together, sharing love, happiness.

ELIAS: Which is quite understandable. This is a natural movement within your physical reality.

HEA: You see, I do want to be married to him but his situation won’t allow it. So that is not my choice, is it?

ELIAS: What is your choice is how you express relationship with this individual.

HEA: I want to be married, but he can’t.

ELIAS: And what is the significance of marriage?

HEA: To be together, as I said, to share laughter, happiness also.

ELIAS: And what prevents you from generating that reality regardless of whether you engage the action of marriage or not?

HEA: I can’t seem to control him.

ELIAS: And this is not the point, my friend. You are quite correct, you cannot, for you do not create his choices.

HEA: Exactly, so we do not control all our circumstances.

ELIAS: Ah, but yes, you do! You...

HEA: Because I’m in the relationship, I chose the circumstances, is that it?

ELIAS: Yes, and you also incorporate the ability and the power to create the reality that you want. It is a matter of examining genuinely what it is that you want. For you may THINK that you want to be engaging a marriage with another individual, but you also have created a scenario in which you prevent that from occurring.

HEA: (Sighs) I think deep down I know why I created that. As much as I want to be married now, I can’t because of outside circumstances. But in the past when I was married I didn’t want to be married, and I was hurt. So I think I did create it. You’re right.

What about my smoking? Why do I like smoking? I can’t quit, because I don’t want to quit.

ELIAS: And it matters not.

HEA: Everyone says it’s going to kill you, it’s going to kill you. But I don’t care!

ELIAS: Let me express to you quite genuinely, my friend, this is associated with beliefs, as are all of your expressions. But if you believe that this action shall be harmful to you, perhaps it shall.

HEA: But if you don’t, it won’t!

ELIAS: Correct.

HEA: That’s what I’m thinking. But then sometimes I get a little weak, like I hear my voice changing, and I’m seeing this little cigarette and maybe it will hurt me. I do have a doubt sometimes.

ELIAS: I am understanding. Do not delude yourself into the thought process that you do not incorporate a belief that this action may be harmful to yourself, for you do; but it matters not. For regardless of whether you incorporate a belief or not — or rather whether you express a belief or not, for you do incorporate all beliefs — but regardless of whether you express a belief or not, you continue to incorporate choice. Therefore, you may incorporate this belief that this action of smoking may be harmful to you, but you also may choose not to be creating that affectingness.

HEA: What about harming my daughter and the family with second-hand smoking? She keeps bombarding me with that idea, and I keep denying it, that you choose.

ELIAS: This is correct.

HEA: I sometimes feel guilty though. What if that’s true? What if?

ELIAS: Ah. Two of your most dangerous words, “what if.” Let me express to you, there is no “what if.” It is all a matter of choices. Each individual generates their individual choices.

HEA: Also, I want to become a healer. How do I do that?

ELIAS: By offering yourself your freedom.

HEA: I don’t want to make people angry, like my parents, by leaving them! But that makes me feel like I’m trapped. It’s always going back to my mother and father, isn’t it? I want to do something but I’m afraid to make them angrier than they are.

ELIAS: Correct.

HEA: Part of me wants to become a good child, like the Bible, to be obedient, to have their approval. Part of me wants the approval.

ELIAS: And as you continue to seek the approval of other individuals, you shall not offer it to yourself.

HEA: Yes, it’s not doing me any good. Oh boy!

ELIAS: Practice the exercises that I have expressed to you.

HEA: That is my key to opening myself and receiving freedom, financial freedom as well, isn’t it?

ELIAS: Yes.

HEA: Should I keep on reading all my books?

ELIAS: It is your choice.

HEA: Would it harm me in any way?

ELIAS: No.

HEA: Like the Theta healing, does that really work?

ELIAS: At times, yes.

HEA: That is authentic?

ELIAS: Yes. It is associated with beliefs, but this is not to say that it does not generate quite a real affectingness.

HEA: I was told that to meditate in the bathroom will draw in all negative entities into me. Is that correct?

ELIAS: No.

HEA: I thought so! (Laughs) But my counselor said it would, and I just can’t believe that!

ELIAS: No.

HEA: So I should just keep doing what I’m doing anyway because it’s all fine. It hasn’t shown any effects on me.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Trust yourself.

HEA: Exactly, which I need to practice more. I don’t trust myself enough, as you said before. I’m working on it.

ELIAS: Allow yourself to direct your ship, my friend.

HEA: How do I achieve financial freedom? I’m tied to my work day and night, and I don’t like it. My excuse is I’ve got to support my kids, but that’s only an excuse, isn’t it?

ELIAS: Yes.

HEA: I’m only seeing black and white, but there are other colors in between?

ELIAS: Yes.

HEA: But how do I see that? I cannot consciously perceive that.

ELIAS: Yes, you can!

HEA: I can’t. I would love to win the lottery, if I could, and not work. But is that real? How do I seek that? That is the question.

ELIAS: The manner in which...

HEA: I know exactly what you’re saying, that we can achieve anything we want by our beliefs and perceptions.

ELIAS: But the manner in which you accomplish that is in paying attention to yourself IN THE NOW.

HEA: I’ve been trying that, to achieve financial freedom now. I guess I am seeing a little change.

ELIAS: Pay attention to what you actually do. This is your greatest key.

HEA: In awakening and having all knowledge. You see, I am ambitious or greedy, I guess. Is that a greed of everything? (Elias laughs) I want the power of Jesus Christ! I dare to receive that power. That’s being ambitious, isn’t it?

ELIAS: And there is no wrong expression in this.

HEA: There is no wrong. I shouldn’t feel guilty, I guess.

ELIAS: Correct.

HEA: It’s always going back to guilt.

ELIAS: Let me express to you as I have previously with many other individuals, were there to be any expression within consciousness that might be deemed as a waste of energy, it would be guilt and worry.

HEA: Tell me before we end the session, Elias. Elizabeth and I, there’s so many parallel things between us. What do we have in common in past lives? Elizabeth wanted me to ask you that.

ELIAS: You also incorporate several other focuses together and generate several different types of relationships in association with familial relationships, such as siblings and also cousins. You also generate relationships in friendships.

HEA: We were all that? And my children and my mother and father as well?

ELIAS: Yes.

HEA: We were all siblings, sisters, cousins, friends?

ELIAS: Yes, and rivals. (Chuckles)

HEA: Also, I had one experience with Olivia, a past life regression. Was that correct what I saw in my vision of my past life, where my father’s name was Peter and my present mother was my grandmother?

ELIAS: Yes.

HEA: I always thought, “Did I make it up?”

ELIAS: No. (Chuckles)

HEA: But the grandmother that was then, her personality’s the same! She was cruel and mean, as she is now. I disliked her, and yet she’s here with me as that same person.

ELIAS: Quite similar.

HEA: Yes. Is that because we didn’t get along? That is my karma?

ELIAS: No, my friend! No, no. There is no karma. This is yet again another religious belief.

HEA: And I’ll still be together with my mother in the next life because I keep thinking that I don’t want to be with her in the next life! Do I have choice in that?

ELIAS: Yes, and I may also express to you, there is no reincarnation either. Therefore, there is no next life.

HEA: If there is no next life or reincarnation, you said we had past lives, different focuses.

ELIAS: Correct, but they are all occurring now.

HEA: Past, present, future is all occurring now?

ELIAS: Yes.

HEA: So we can change the past by changing the present?

ELIAS: Correct.

HEA: I read of that but I don’t know how to apply it.

ELIAS: The prerequisite, my friend, is to become familiar with the present and to continue to hold your attention in the present in the now, which is quite challenging for this is an unfamiliar action. What is familiar is to be projecting your attention pastly and futurely, even within one day!

HEA: Or even every minute.

ELIAS: Correct! Therefore, perhaps allow yourself to concentrate upon the action of becoming aware of the now and paying attention to what you are doing in the now before you move into these other expressions! Ha ha ha!

HEA: Okay. I will speak to you again, Elias.

ELIAS: Very well. I shall be anticipating that conversation. (Chuckles)

HEA: Is there any way you can help me?

ELIAS: I shall be projecting energy to you, my friend, in supportiveness.

HEA: You can do that?

ELIAS: Quite!

HEA: Oh, thank you so much! This is the help that I was seeking. A lot of times I cannot control myself because of the pattern. I am trying, but I need a little more help. That’s what you’re going to do, project the energy into me?

ELIAS: Correct.

HEA: And I am able to do this, be stronger?

ELIAS: And if you are allowing yourself an openness, you may be noticing imagery of bright blue, which you may associate with my energy.

HEA: That was one of my questions, too. What colors are the healing colors when I heal? Is it blue or is it green? This seems to be an issue with every different healer. Is it blue or is it green for healing people, or does it matter?

ELIAS: In actuality, it matters not. It is not what you would term to be a universal or absolute expression. For you individually, as you manipulate energy, green.

HEA: I should use that to heal myself and others, green?

ELIAS: In the action of healing in association with other individuals, what you are generating is a cooperation of energy. You are not actually healing them; they generate that action themselves, for...

HEA: And we all need channels to generate it for them.

ELIAS: Correct.

HEA: The book that I’m reading, “Ancient Mysticism” — do you know that title and author, or do you know what I’m talking about?

ELIAS: What is your question?

HEA: Is that true? Should I follow that exactly, all the steps, in awakening all my chakras?

ELIAS: Is it true? No. Is it associated with your beliefs? Yes. Shall you accomplish actions that you want in following those beliefs? It is your choice.

HEA: It is my choice, but I want to follow the right steps.

ELIAS: There are no right and wrong steps, my friend.

HEA: If I believe, it will be.

You are associated with blue. So if I look at the blue sky, I’m seeing you?

ELIAS: And you may feel my energy.

HEA: By looking at anything blue, you mean?

ELIAS: As you present it to yourself in your imagery, yes.

HEA: Really? Will I be able to see you physically, your image?

ELIAS: If you are so choosing.

HEA: I want to. Is it as simple as that, just saying I want to?

ELIAS: No. (Laughs)

HEA: I see there’s a trick to it! (Laughing)

ELIAS: It also is a matter of the openness that you express.

HEA: And I’m not open? I think I am.

ELIAS: Somewhat.

HEA: I want that, but it’s not happening.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) My suggestion is that you practice trusting.

HEA: Myself and all others?

ELIAS: Yourself first of all.

HEA: Mary told me to tell you it’s time.

ELIAS: Very well.

HEA: I will speak to you again once I see the shift in my consciousness.

ELIAS: Very well.

HEA: I want you to prompt me to call you when you think I’m ready. Is that possible?

ELIAS: Yes.

HEA: Do that for me, Elias, okay?

ELIAS: Very well.

HEA: Intercept me when I need you (Elias laughs) or when you think I need your help to move forward.

ELIAS: Very well. I express to you great affection, my friend.

HEA: Thank you — oh, what’s my essence name?

ELIAS: Essence name, Kira, K-I-R-A (KEER ah).

HEA: What does that mean?

ELIAS: Shall you investigate?

HEA: Okay, I will do that. (Elias chuckles) I think I know why you’re saying that. The website, correct?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. This is merely one avenue of investigation. You may incorporate many avenues of investigation.

HEA: Okay, I will investigate.

ELIAS: Very well.

HEA: Thank you very much, Elias!

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friend. In fondness, au revoir.

HEA: Till next time. Bye.

Elias departs at 11:19 AM.

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