Friday, February 28, 2003 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael), Mark (Baruch) and Dawn (Awan)

Elias arrives at 5:10 AM. (Arrival time is 20 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

MARK: Elias! (Elias laughs) Greetings, my dear friend, and how are you?

ELIAS: As always, and yourself?

MARK: I am excellent, thank you!

ELIAS: Ha ha! Very well!

MARK: And Elias, I have Dawn with me here as well. Our phone system is not working where we can speak together, so I will hand you over when the time is right.

ELIAS: Very well.

MARK: So what I’ll do is get straight into some questions that I am dying to know the answers to. The first is, I believe that Dawn has actually spoken to you before of our time in Saudi, and we have had great fun and amusement in recalling these events since the last conversation — extreme fun! — especially recounting some of the events, thievery and other events, that we participated in together. (Elias laughs) So if I just could ask to validate some questions for this time.

I have a very strong feeling about a woman that I knew then, I believe her name to be Ayishah, and I just wanted to confirm that this is correct. I would also like to know whether this person is focused in this timeframe now, and I would also like to know if I know this person or have known this person, because I believe that I possibly do.

ELIAS: I may express to you, you are correct in all of your impressions.

MARK: Interesting, and may I suggest a name for this person?

ELIAS: You may.

MARK: I believe this person to be somebody that I have met about five years ago on a business trip to America. Her name is Sabrina.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Correct! Really! (Elias laughs) Wow! Okay, I need to ask something else with regards to this. I had a dream recently about Sabrina where she was actually wanting to disengage. In my dream with her, I saw her highly distressed, saying that she couldn’t or didn’t want to continue with her focus at this present time and was going to disengage herself. I would like to know if she actually has done this or not.

ELIAS: No, but I may express to you that this individual has expressed what you term to be a depression and therefore does engage an entertainment of that idea at times.

MARK: Right. It was so strong, I woke up and I was actually a bit upset because it was so real. It was like she actually had, you know. I could actually see her disengaging, and I was like, “Is this for real or what?”

ELIAS: Your impression is quite real and the imagery that you offer to yourself is also quite accurate in association with the experiences of the other individual, but not necessarily to the actual point of engaging that choice.

MARK: Okay, wow! That’s solved that one. Thank you very much.

We, Dawn and I, have been doing a lot of focusing together and trying to go through many of our 61 lives together, and I just need to sort of clarify some other information here. I believe my total number of focuses in this dimension to be 1064. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Correct, excellent. Within these focuses, I have incredibly strong images of Dawn being somebody who I call Monique. I believe my name to be Abe or Abrim, I am black, I am in the south of France, I believe, and I am Monique’s lover. How accurate are these images?

ELIAS: Quite! (All laugh)

MARK: There has been much fun exploring this and we shall leave it at that then! (Laughing) Dawn as Monique has a daughter, I believe her name to be Rebecca, and I believe this person to be my actual sister Vickie in this focus. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Whoa! Very good! Elias, I tell you this is such fun. We are having such fun doing this; it’s tremendous!

ELIAS: And this is the point, my friends, to be engaging fun! Ha ha ha!

MARK: Life is fun; it sure is!

I know that Dawn has a focus in America where I believe you have said her name is Daniela. The focusing that we have done together on this, I believe that I am in this focus as well. In this focus, is my name Trish? I believe us to be in the Massachusetts area of the United States, and Dawn and I are lovers. Dawn is actually married to somebody that I believe the name to be Bill or Paul. Can you validate any of this, please?

ELIAS: The first impression is correct.

MARK: So the name is Bill?

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Okay, and my name is Trish?

ELIAS: Yes.

MARK: So all of that is right?

ELIAS: Yes.

MARK: Wow! I have had for some time some imagery of myself as being a Native American Indian. I believe this to go back quite some time because I don’t see any guns or anything like that, so it is not a wild-western type thing. I believe that I am from the Navajo tribe where my name I believe to be Tet-tay-akwan.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct. What is your identification of this individual?

MARK: My identification of this individual is that he is an Indian chief. I don’t know what Tet-tay-akwan means but I get imagery of something that says to me “white thunder” or “eagle feather,” and I don’t quite understand whether that is related to the name of Tet-tay-akwan or if that is something else.

ELIAS: It is associated with the identification of the individual, and it is loosely translated as your first identification of the thunder. This individual is not actually what you term to be a chief but has been groomed for that position.

MARK: Right, because I get quite a lot of imagery of this person as being myself. I actually have spoken with this person on numerous occasions and I have a great fondness for this person. (Elias laughs) And why shouldn’t I have fondness for myself? (Laughs)

ELIAS: Very well! Ha ha ha!

MARK: Elias, I have another imagery of a focus of Dawn and myself. I believe that our names in this focus are Jack and Emily, myself being Jack and Dawn being Emily, where Dawn actually gives birth and dies giving birth to our second child. That’s all I have actually been able to pick up on this focus so far. I would just like confirmation on this.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

MARK: I am correct, great.

My daughter was sat with Dawn recently and I glanced across at her, and I got a strong image of a woman dressed in sort of like grey silk. When we started going into this, I was getting the name of Marie, and as we progressed further with this it became Marie de Guise. While we were talking about this, we were talking with you, hoping that this would help! So we believe Chloe to be Marie de Guise, married to James V of Scotland. Can you validate this for me, please?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct. (Elias chuckles)

MARK: As you can see we have been working very hard on this! I have another very strong image of Dawn. I saw her with a quill and she was writing. I was getting “Raleigh,” and as we progressed further I was getting Sir Walter Raleigh. Is this correct?

ELIAS: This is an observing essence.

MARK: Right. I would love to learn more about observing essences but I suppose I should look in the transcripts for that information.

I have an incredibly strong image of Dawn being I believe Helen of Troy. I believe that I am in some way associated with her but I can’t quite work out what relation I am to Helen at this time. Could you confirm this for me please?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct, and you may be investigating a closely associated handmaiden.

MARK: REALLY! (Elias laughs) So I must be looking at things that I shouldn’t be looking at! (Both laugh) Dawn would like to know is somebody on the chat forum Paris?

ELIAS: Yes.

MARK: Is it Allesander?

ELIAS: No.

MARK: Right, Dawn will have to do some work on that then!

Okay, let me see. I believe myself to have 12 or 25 future focuses. The first number that jumped in my mind was 25 and then just suddenly 12. I don’t know whether there is some fragmentation there, because why did I get 25 and then the next thing was 12?

ELIAS: Your first impression is correct. This is not unusual that an individual may alter an impression, which is in actuality an automatic response. Even in your playfulness and trusting yourselves in accepting your impressions, at times you continue to express an automatic response of doubt, and this generates a different association within yourself and therefore generates some confusion.

MARK: Yes, I can totally relate to that. It’s not trusting self, once you have actually thought of something it just... Yes, okay.

I also have some very, very strong imagery that I believe to go back quite some considerable time. Within the area that is now known as Egypt to the time when I believe the pyramids or one of the pyramids were first being built is what I see, and I believe myself to be related in some way to, I don’t know if I can say a religion, but I am regarded as a high priest and I believe my name to be Set-tu. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Excellent. I see myself with a very strange device, which is like a very flexible stick about two feet long, which actually lights up a blue-green color and can become extremely bright. So it is like a form of energy which I believe could possible be a weapon, although I have not seen it used as that, but I have certainly seen it used for illuminating rooms, passages and the like. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Yes, it is correct, and this instrument may be incorporated in association with healing or with harmfulness. Your impression of a weapon is quite correct.

MARK: This seems to me to be in our present terms a very long time ago. I would like to know when it is, because I believe it to be the time of... I know there is talk of a land called Mu, and my impression is that this is actually related to that time. Although not in Mu itself, but the people that are there are somehow related to the people from Mu. I would like to know if I am correct in this assumption.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, for they are other focuses of the same essences, and in that respect, yes, you may generate the association that they are related, in a manner of speaking; but in physical terms, no. But these individuals in this time framework do incorporate an awareness of other expressions of themselves in other physical dimensions.

Now; this is filtered through their beliefs in association with their religions, but there is an actual awareness of these other focuses within other physical dimensions.

MARK: This seems to follow on with something because while I am this person, I seem to have some ability that is like to me a very powerful form of mass hypnosis. For example, you can talk to people and point to a tree and they would believe the tree to be on fire though it is not, although everybody there would swear to it burning.

ELIAS: Correct. And let me also express to you a clarification for your continued investigation. This individual in actuality incorporates knowledge of the plan for the building, so to speak, of a pyramid but does not actually witness this process, for in that time framework the individual is what you would term to be very old and has disengaged prior to the erection of this structure.

MARK: We seem to have an incredible ability to appear to be in front of somebody and then almost instantly vanish. I appear to have the ability to be able to focus my attention on being elsewhere and immediately be there and that is witnessed by other people, but the thing is, it’s physical as well.

ELIAS: I am understanding, and you are quite correct. This is the action of projection, and as you become objectively more proficient at this action, in being aware of yourself engaging this action, you also allow yourself to recognize that you do incorporate the ability to physically move through space.

MARK: Yes, I see it. It is quite amazing. But space isn’t actually there, it is like it is so... The way I would describe it is that you are going within yourself, in that the dimension is actually right there and that...

ELIAS: Correct! Ha ha ha!

MARK: It is quite phenomenal. The thing that is amazing is that I do not understand why in that timeframe people were able to do this sort of thing, or was it that it was just people like myself, as high priests, who had that ability? Or was this an ability that was held by the majority of the population at that time?

ELIAS: I may express to you, it is similar to your time framework now. You all incorporate these abilities, as did all those individuals in that time framework, but not all individuals recognize their abilities or engage them.

In this, some individuals engaged what you would term to be training to be polishing certain abilities, and this also was associated with the religious beliefs. Therefore, those individuals are viewed differently and revered as incorporating special powers that are different from the masses. Although they do not incorporate different powers or abilities than the masses, they merely engage the action of paying attention and practicing with certain abilities to be honing those abilities and generating quite an expression of perfecting, in a manner of speaking, certain abilities to be manipulating energy and to be allowing themselves to view other focuses, other dimensions, and even to be objectively aware of projecting to other time frameworks, other locations and even other dimensions.

Now; in like manner in this time framework, you all incorporate these abilities but not all individuals allow themselves an objective awareness of these abilities, which in THIS time framework is the point of this shift in consciousness.

MARK: I believe Dawn to be in this focus as well, as a female. I see Dawn as a female with long dark hair, very white-colored face with heavy make-up around her eyes, and I believe her name to be Arian. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Ariana.

MARK: I am still puzzled as to the timeframe in our understanding.

ELIAS: And shall you not continue your investigation? You are accomplishing quite well, my friend! Do not allow myself to stifle your investigation!

MARK: (Laughing) My dear friend Elias, that is why I am speaking to you! Okay, well, I believe it to be in excess of ten thousand years.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: And I believe the ruler of that time to have the name of Bhat.

ELIAS: One of, yes.

MARK: One of? So there is more than one ruler?

ELIAS: Yes.

MARK: Excellent, excellent! That’s wonderful. Thank you very much!

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

MARK: I had an imagery of Dawn as an ancient female, Greek or Roman. I focus more on Greek, as being a warrior. I see her with a spear, a female running through flames. This is all I have been able to get of this. Can you confirm this for me, please?

ELIAS: Yes.

MARK: Yes. Are you going to be kind enough to give me a name to help me in my further investigations?

ELIAS: (Laughs) Diana! This is your confusion with the association of Greek or Roman, for this physical naming is more associated with the Roman culture than the Greek, but it is incorporated within the Greek also.

MARK: I shall be doing some more investigating on that, then.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! I incorporate NO doubt that you shall!

MARK: Elias, just a couple of things that I have been getting recently as well is that I believe that I have two young teenage focuses in the country currently known as the United States of America, they being a male teenager who I believe his name is Greg and a female teenager who I believe is Pauline, and both have cats!

ELIAS: Correct.

MARK: Dawn has spoken to you about my final focus, who I believe to be a young Tibetan monk. I still have not been able to get his name, and you were correct in saying the person is younger. I believe this person to not actually be ten but to actually be eight. I would like confirmation on this, please.

ELIAS: Yes.

MARK: That’s excellent. What I’ll do now, Elias, is Dawn has been sat here patiently. I shall pass you across to her, and if I don’t speak to you at the end, I send you my sincere greetings and wishes that we speak again in the very near future...

ELIAS: Very well!

MARK: ...and thank you very much for your time.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! You are quite welcome my friend!

DAWN: Hi, Elias!

ELIAS: Good morning! We meet again!

DAWN: Good morning! Well, he got all the best questions! (Elias chuckles) After I spoke to you last time and I came off the phone, I was really, really unhappy. I actually felt really, really resentful, and I was just wondering if this was associated with this focus in Vienna?

ELIAS: No. This is quite associated with your focus presently.

DAWN: Is this me being unhappy with me... I don’t understand why it happened after the phone call.

ELIAS: It is quite understandable, in actuality. For as you and myself engaged conversation, you expressed a considerable delight in our participation together, and subsequent to our conversation, you were expressing a disappointment at your discontinuation of our interaction.

DAWN: Oh! Because I went ‘round for about two days in a bad mood! (Both laugh)

ELIAS: Now perhaps you may recognize this and allow yourself to be remembering objectively that you may engage my energy in any time framework and you may engage conversation with myself and interaction with myself in any moment that you choose.

DAWN: I just haven’t got the hang of it completely. After I spoke with you, I thought about you communicating with me and how I wasn’t getting it. Now, I haven’t had it so much recently, but in England I was getting vibrations in my body and I actually didn’t associate it with you completely. I wasn’t sure. That would be it, would it?

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: Oh good. Because Mark is getting them up the heel of his foot at the moment, and that is you also, isn’t it?

ELIAS: Yes. (Laughs)

DAWN: There is this other thing that happens with the water in the bathroom, water comes out of the taps and the shower at certain times, and I feel that it is an interaction. Is this imagination?

ELIAS: You are correct, but not with myself.

DAWN: That’s what I thought! It’s another essence!

ELIAS: (Laughing) This is an interaction with another essence, which expresses quite a playfulness.

DAWN: Patel?

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: Oh, that crossed my mind just recently! Oh that’s lovely! That’s great!

I have a couple of questions I have to ask for other people.

ELIAS: Very well.

DAWN: Marcia on the list would like to know her essence name and family. (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Beccha, B-E-C-C-H-A (BEK kuh). And impression?

DAWN: Oh Elias, I am really sorry. There were various impressions posted on the list and I haven’t written it down, so I don’t like to just guess. I know someone said Gramada, possibly aligned with Gramada, but that’s all I can actually remember.

ELIAS: Essence family Sumari, alignment Zuli.

DAWN: Everybody’s been wrong! And she is what orientation?

ELIAS: Common.

DAWN: And is she a final focus?

ELIAS: No.

DAWN: Thank you for that. She sends you hugs and kisses for that information.

ELIAS: You may offer my greetings to the individual.

DAWN: My troublesome son (laughing) has been having altered states, where everything goes blurry, his sight goes blurry, hearing fades, and it seems to make him unhappy, this. He seems to feel sort of depressed about that and he has asked me to ask you what is happening here.

ELIAS: You may express my encouragement to this individual that this is a temporary manifestation and in actuality is beneficial, for this is an action of defocusing attention, which is helpful in widening the awareness. Therefore, perhaps it may be viewed through a perception of a positive action rather than one that may be generating a depression. My suggestion is that the individual allow themselves to merely relax and accept the manifestation in the moments and recognize that it is temporary.

DAWN: That’s good; he will be pleased with that. I think he has these experiences, and as you say, they are good, but I think he does not understand what they are and assumes that it must be something, I don’t know, unpleasant or...

ELIAS: The attention of most individuals within your physical reality in this time framework is very rigid, and this shift in consciousness requires more of an expression of flexibility with regard to attention. Therefore, in allowing different types of expressions of attention to be defocused, so to speak, and not held as rigidly as is familiar, is quite beneficial in allowing any individual to be expressing more ease in their movement in association with this shift in consciousness.

There are many alterations that are occurring within your physical reality. It is almost being reconfigured. Not entirely, but in association with awareness, in a manner of speaking your reality is being reconfigured. In this, as I have stated many times, the familiar becomes unfamiliar and the unfamiliar becomes familiar. In this, you are altering perceptions dramatically, which actually alters your reality.

You are also redefining what you view to be the officially accepted reality or the norm, so to speak. I am understanding the association that many individuals generate in negativity in relation to these actions, for they are quite unfamiliar and many individuals automatically generate an association that they are beginning to incorporate lunacy, which in actuality is not the situation.

DAWN: Excellent, he will be pleased with that. (Both laugh) Okay, some other quick questions. Am I thought focused?

ELIAS: Political. This is closely associated with thought focus but incorporates more of an expression that may be likened to an emotional focus. In a manner of speaking, there is a combination, so to speak, of both actions, although the action of the thought focus is more strongly expressed.

DAWN: I thought if I were emotionally focused I would self-destruct, with being Vold aligned and soft orientation! (Laughing)

ELIAS: (Laughs) There are many individuals that choose all of these qualities, which generates quite an expression of drama and excitement for many of these individuals! Ha ha ha!

DAWN: And an overwhelmingness as well! Is Mark emotional focused?

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: Do we have Dream Walker aspects?

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: Is it possible to know the name of the Dream Walkers?

ELIAS: Ah! I shall be encouraging you to investigate!

DAWN: (Laughs) Okay, if that’s something I can get.

ELIAS: Your investigations move quite well! I encourage you to continue.

DAWN: Okay! Who am I fragmented from?

ELIAS: Essence Leute, L-E-U-T-E (LOOT), essence Brian, and essence Aytta, A-Y-T-T-A (AY tah).

DAWN: I haven’t heard of any of those. Do I have 23 future focuses?

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: Do I have any of those living in the City?

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: The essence, the focus of me I should say, that I connected with, the young man in the future, is his name Christian?

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: And can I ask when he is actually born, what year?

ELIAS: 2223.

DAWN: So it’s a long way off! You know, Elias, I thought he couldn’t be that far forward because he is wearing glasses and they would have fixed all that! (Elias laughs) So I have to work out now why he... They are obviously just for adornment!

ELIAS: Let me express to you that what you view as the future incorporates some fascinations with what they view as the past in certain expressions of artifacts, so to speak. In this time framework, you value certain artifacts that may adorn your dwellings. In future time frameworks, their fascination with artifacts is slightly different, and their appreciation moves more in an expression of adornment of themselves.

DAWN: It makes sense. I understand that. Okay, I have this really strange thing with the Dali Lama. Do I know this essence?

ELIAS: Yes, or rather more specifically, you have previously in this time framework, but not now.

DAWN: I don’t understand that.

ELIAS: You have incorporated an association with this individual in what you recognize as childhood years.

DAWN: Am I a monk?

ELIAS: Yes, but that individual has disengaged.

DAWN: Ah, because I saw his face on a book and it jumped into my head “hello, my friend,” and I thought oh, where did that come from? (Elias chuckles) I want to place him in the family of Tumold.

ELIAS: Yes.

DAWN: Another thing, I had a dream about someone called Robbie Williams, who is a singer in the present time framework, where he and I have a relationship in this dream. So is that another focus?

ELIAS: You are identifying another focus, but it is associated with that essence, not necessarily a focus in this time framework which is interactive with that particular individual.

DAWN: One last question — my Gran, could I ask my Gran’s essence name and family, please?

ELIAS: Essence name, Jeanette, and your impression?

DAWN: I haven’t even thought about this. Would she be Tumold?

ELIAS: And alignment?

DAWN: Ilda.

ELIAS: Correct.

DAWN: Oh great! Have I had many focuses with this essence?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes.

DAWN: Can I ask how many? (Elias chuckles) Please!

ELIAS: Thirty-six.

DAWN: That’s why I was so close to her. Oh that’s lovely, great! (Elias chuckles)

Is there time for Mark to ask you one more question, Elias?

ELIAS: Very well.

DAWN: Well, I’ll say goodbye.

ELIAS: Very well. I may express to you my affection and my fondness. Au revoir.

DAWN: And I send you my love. Au revoir. Thank you.

MARK: Hello again, Elias.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Greetings again!

MARK: Just very quickly! Elias, I have currently stopped doing the type of work that I was doing and I have been studying something called NLP, which is related to hypnosis, and I am currently doing a life-coaching course.

There are times where I am looking at this and I am sort of thinking that maybe this is not what I should be doing. Under this practice, you are helping people change their way of thinking to better themselves, and I have read so much information that people are creating their own reality, and really what right do I have to interact with somebody — unless of course that person is asking me to interact with them. But this is what I am actually asking.

ELIAS: I am understanding, but also recognize, my friend, that individuals shall draw themselves to you in that capacity and they are requesting your interaction. For, they would not be interactive with you and engaging activities with you were they not in agreement and not requesting that interaction.

Now; you may also be allowing yourself, in a manner of speaking, to redefine what your action is, and in that, objectively recognize more clearly what you are actually doing, so to speak. For you may manipulate energy and you may facilitate different actions, but also recognize that you engage different actions with other individuals and they themselves generate the choice to be altering or not altering their perceptions and their expressions.

Therefore, what you engage is a sharing of energy and a sharing of interaction, which may be beneficial to you both. This is significant. For in allowing yourself to examine your motivation, recognize that you are not incorporating the perception that you as all powerful are altering another individual’s choices or focus but rather that you are engaging an action of sharing energy with other individuals, which is a beneficial action to you both.

Now; this is not to say that you may at any given point choose to be engaging a different action and a different exploration, but in this time framework the action that you are engaging is expressing a fulfillment within your focus.

MARK: I believe that to be the case. That is the way that I actually view what I am actually doing, so I am really pleased that I have heard this. It’s a very strong validation for me, because you have doubts at times and you think well, am I interfering? But this person has actually drawn themselves to me and I have been able to be the facilitator in allowing this person to realize that they can do what they want to do, because that’s really what they are wanting to do in the first place.

ELIAS: Correct, which is quite similar to your interaction with myself.

MARK: Correct, yes, absolutely right!

ELIAS: I am not engaging your choices for you or directing you to be engaging any specific choices, but am interactive with you and sharing information with you that you may direct yourself.

MARK: And very grateful we are, too. (Both laugh) Well, Elias, I must express my sincere thanks and deep affection for you, and until next time, we bid you au revoir.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friends, and I express to you tremendous affection also and bid you most fondly au revoir.

MARK: Thank you, au revoir.

Elias departs at 6:09 AM.

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