Tuesday, February 11, 2003 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Daryl (Ashrah)

Elias arrives at 12:09 PM. (Arrival time is 18 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

DARYL: Hello. (Elias chuckles) I’ve got a whole bunch of questions, so I guess I’ll start.

ELIAS: Very well!

DARYL: Recently, by putting some information together, I figured out that probably another focus of Ashrah was a friend of Seale’s, and at that time I felt like I had dream contact with her. Then that seemed to stop. By the time I had Myranda check on it in a session, she had fragmented. I checked through Oona that she actually fragmented during that time period. Also, during that week where that was going on, I felt like I had switched my primary aspect and then it switched back.

I was very excited to think about interacting with another focus, and then it all went away. I’m curious about what happened and why, and why that focus chose to fragment at this time.

ELIAS: It is merely a choice, my friend.

DARYL: That’s all there is to it?

ELIAS: In actuality, yes. It is a choice which is actualizing a desire to be generating a new essence.

DARYL: So it’s basically the choice of the focus who fragments, rather than myself.

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: One impression I had was that perhaps she wanted more focuses in physical reality. As you know, I don’t have many here.

ELIAS: This essence does incorporate more focuses than your essence.

DARYL: Does she have around 1200 or so? (Pause)

ELIAS: Nearly — 1182.

DARYL: Wow, that was pretty close, then!

ELIAS: Correct!

DARYL: Did she fragment just from Ashrah or was there a mergence of essences?

ELIAS: A mergence.

DARYL: Do I know any of the essences involved?

ELIAS: Objectively, no.

DARYL: Would you be willing to tell me what her essence name is and her family and alignment?

ELIAS: Essence name, Alistar, A-L-I-S-T-A-R (AL les stir). Essence family, Sumafi; alignment, Sumari.

DARYL: I’m still not totally clear on this. I still have all of the focuses that I had, except for her?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: She had a focus as Marie Romanov, and so that is no longer her focus?

ELIAS: Correct.

DARYL: When I talked to you about the number of focuses I had, I had 108 and I had five current. I guess I could have generated more. Do I have 107 now?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: At that time I had five current, and two have disengaged in the last year. If this one has fragmented, then in my understanding that just leaves me and the focus in Japan?

ELIAS: Correct.

DARYL: I guess I want to move on to other things, then. Previously, a few years ago, we discussed me having a focus in Russia at the time of Nicholas and Alexandra, and you said that this person was only briefly in court, which doesn’t match with the experience of Marie Romanov. Do I have another focus there in Russia at that time?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: Is that a male?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

DARYL: Is it someone who’s employed at the Faberge workshop?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: And when I’ve been thinking of Nicholas, my serial killer, I kept on thinking Russia, but then this whole Romanov thing came up. Is that where Nicholas is, in Russia? Is that him?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: So he works at Faberge and he kills people?

ELIAS: No. Theses are two different focuses.

DARYL: So I have three in Russia at that time?

ELIAS: Yes, although they are overlapping. They would not be necessarily considered all three concurrent, but rather overlapping.

DARYL: The male in the Faberge workshop is separate from Nicholas, but they both are Russian focuses around that time?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: I want to check some answers that Myranda got with you through some finger signals. She asked me to confirm them.

ELIAS: Very well.

DARYL: Is Betty Comden a focus of Camdon? She received a “yes” for that. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: She asked if George Sand’s daughter Solange is a focus of Jene, and she got a no. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Correct.

DARYL: Oh, and for Betty Comden, Camdon would like to know if she is aligned Ilda.

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: I want to ask you some stuff about Edna Ferber, who is one of my focuses. On the last page of the last thing that she had published, she talks about being at Donner Pass and coming down through Sacramento, which is where I live now, and going to San Francisco, where I used to live. When I originally read this, I was aware of Sandel and Oona being at Donner Pass and then subsequently I found out that I was also involved in the Donner Party. I know that the way I’m asking has to do with separation and linear time, but basically did I create Edna writing that to me?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, as essence, yes — a communication from one focus to another.

DARYL: I was just completely blown away when I saw that. (Elias chuckles) So if I went back in supposed historic times, would that still be the ending of that book? I’m still trying to grasp how things change. Could that literally have not been what she wrote at that time and be what she wrote now?

ELIAS: Yes, although in response to your question of whether it was what she wrote at the time, yes. But you are correct that it is possible that she may have written a different ending. You do incorporate the ability to change that as another focus of the same essence in your time framework.

DARYL: The other thing I noticed was she only had one person with her at that time and his name was Oscar. I was wondering if that is an indication to me that you, Elias, have a focus in the Donner Party.

ELIAS: No.

DARYL: So that was something else, huh? (Elias laughs) I just thought it was very peculiar that of all the names that one popped up. Well, you didn’t miss much from what I understand! (Elias laughs loudly)

ELIAS: Or perhaps I have! (Laughing) It may have been an interesting experience!

DARYL: Yes, it may have been. Certainly intense! Another thing is that Edna wrote a few times that she felt that she had a focus as “a little Jewish slave girl on the Nile” in Egypt. Is that a correct identification of a focus of ours?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: Is that my Egyptian chapter focus?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: Could you give me an approximate timeframe on that, because I know Egypt is very vast in terms of timeframes.

ELIAS: You are quite correct, although I shall be encouraging of you to be investigating. (Chuckles)

DARYL: Okay. I just haven’t had any luck in going there, and after what she said about it I don’t think it’s our favorite place to go! (Both laugh) But I will try investigating again, now that I know what I’m looking for.

I have a bunch of impressions that are mostly mine and also some other people’s that I want to check. Do I share 15 focuses with Connor? (Pause)

ELIAS: Twelve.

DARYL: My focus Cedric, I wondered if his wife is a focus of Connor?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: Is her name Doris?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: Wow. I also got an impression of me and Connor dancing at a ball, him male and me female. I got the feeling that it was a particular focus of ours, and at the same time that it somehow was imagery of our relationship in general.

ELIAS: Correct.

DARYL: I was thinking maybe it was the 18th century.

ELIAS: Correct.

DARYL: Am I correct about it being imagery of our relationship in general?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: So that would be something else for me to investigate.

ELIAS: Quite.

DARYL: One more on Connor. I wondered if William Eddy of the Donner Party is a focus of Connor?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: Wow. That’s intense! He carried me over the Sierra Nevada! I’d also like to know, do I have a future focus named Darleen Arlington? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: Now, Myranda’s focus that knows her is in Australia. Is Darleen also in Australia?

ELIAS: Yes, but not originally.

DARYL: That’s something else to be investigating, I take it! (Elias laughs) I don’t think you’re going to be giving a lot of stuff away today! (Laughs)

ELIAS: You have become quite efficient at this game! Ha ha ha ha!

DARYL: I am getting way more impressions than I used to, I’ll say that.

ELIAS: I am aware!

DARYL: Do I have one or more focuses as a dragon? I guess it’s in the folklore dimension.

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: I got the colors pink and black, and I wasn’t sure if that was different dragons or one dragon.

ELIAS: Different.

DARYL: So I have at least two then, I guess.

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: That was very interesting, because I came across that by feeling dragon-like, which is hard to describe in words. (Elias laughs)

My focus Yulia of the Anasazi, I want to know if she is my initiating focus. (Pause)

ELIAS: No.

DARYL: Was her husband a focus of Fontine?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: Is the initiating focus someone that I have not discovered yet?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: I started signing email I was sending to Sandel as “Ashrahsand,” all one word, and I felt that that had some kind of connection with her. When I investigated, I felt that Ashrah was a male focus of mine at the Alterversity...

ELIAS: Correct.

DARYL: ...and I felt that he was Zuli aligned...

ELIAS: Correct.

DARYL: ...and also that he loves to sail and lives on a sailboat.

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: I’m still confused about the connection to Sandel, if there is one. I thought that perhaps Sand is his last name, or that there is something with Sandel that I don’t understand.

ELIAS: A connection in that focus.

DARYL: With Sandel?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: She has a focus also at the Alterversity?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: Oona has gotten images of my focus Cameron a couple of times, and she says that she found him really sexually ambiguous. I wondered if Cameron is a focus who does not have a gender.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes.

DARYL: What does that mean? (Laughing)

ELIAS: What I am expressing is that physically there is an incorporation of both. Therefore, you may also associate that the individual is not incorporating a single gender.

DARYL: Do I have a lot of focuses that aren’t just plain male or female?

ELIAS: Several. Not necessarily many, but several.

DARYL: Is Jean Harlow a focus of Oona?

ELIAS: Observing essence.

DARYL: Would that be throughout the focus?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: I wanted to also be clear — the number of focuses that you give us, that does not include observing essences?

ELIAS: Correct.

DARYL: I have very few focuses in this dimension and Oona has a lot. Is there any relationship with the number of observing essences we have to the number of directing focuses we have?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. It is dependent upon the choice of the essence. Some essences choose to be generating few directing focuses and many observing actions, or they may choose to be generating few of both, or one essence may choose to be generating many directing focuses and very few of the action of observing. But other essences may choose to incorporate many of both. It is dependent upon the choice of the experiences of the individual essence and the volume of their participation in association with their preferences in relation to this physical dimension.

DARYL: Is Edna’s sister, Fannie Ferber, a focus of Nanaiis? (Pause)

ELIAS: This also is an observing essence.

DARYL: Am I a counterpart with KC?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: I still don’t have much experience with them. Are we counterparts in a particular area, like fear? Or is it kind of a general thing?

ELIAS: Not quite that specific, but you do engage counterpart action in not parallel but also not opposite.

DARYL: Well, at least I identified one at long last! Is actor Julian Sands a focus of Sandel?

ELIAS: Another observing essence.

DARYL: Am I an observing essence of Lillian Hellman?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: Would that be throughout or a specific time?

ELIAS: For the most part, excluding what you term to be very younger years.

DARYL: And with Julian Sands, is that pretty much throughout?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: I also was trying to figure out how many future focuses I have. I got the number six, which seemed too low. I wondered if it was 16 instead?

ELIAS: No, your initial impression is correct.

DARYL: Six, wow! I guess I don’t have a lot of interest in the future thing then, huh? (Elias laughs) I’ve discovered four of them. Speaking of future focuses, too, the other night I was talking with Oona on the phone and what I understood to be happening was that her future focus Jerome was telling my future focus Clayton things that he wanted me to pass on to Oona. Then Clayton told me and I told Oona. Was that really happening?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: That was an interesting experience. I’m not sure if you’ll know what I mean by this, but after my last session, which was several months ago, I had the strong impression of Edna kind of standing in a particular place outside me to the left and I felt like someone else was standing next to her. My impression at that time was that it was another author, but Oona asked you if I have another author focus and you said no. It occurred to me, it could be someone else somehow related to my theme of gender blending with language, and now I don’t feel that anymore. I wondered if you could tell me who that was that I was sensing next to Edna?

ELIAS: Not another focus of you.

DARYL: Was it someone that she knows?

ELIAS: Another focus of Oona.

DARYL: Was that Edna’s mother, Julia?

ELIAS: No. Another focus which incorporates similarities of experiences, interests, preferences and energy.

DARYL: Wow. I still don’t do very well at distinguishing her energy from mine. (Elias chuckles) I’m aware of five focuses of mine that I consider famous at this time. Are there more focuses of mine that are famous?

ELIAS: Two.

DARYL: Am I one of those focuses?

ELIAS: No.

DARYL: Are these in the past then, past focuses?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: I just thought maybe... Because we’ve wondered if the Darlings were well-known later on. (Elias chuckles) So that’s a high percentage of famous focuses for my number of focuses. I guess I like that!

One day I saw a list of famous focuses of people, essences within our forum, and I had the impression that why we have so many famous focuses within our group had something to do with how we create our reality that I don’t understand yet. At that time, I got this very strong rush of a feeling that is associated within me of leaving the familiar for an expression of freedom. Can you verify that I’m on the right track there?

ELIAS: Partially, but also realize that within your history there are many, many, many individuals that may be considered incorporating fame or notoriety, and there are many individuals that incorporate these types of focuses that are not interactive within this forum.

DARYL: I want to ask you about a number of dreams that I had concerning focuses that I’m confused about. In one, I was with a group of people and someone came up to me and said, “Are you Milton Hershey?” and I said, “No, I’m not.” I wondered, am I an observing essence of Milton Hershey?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: All right for chocolate! (Elias chuckles) I also had an experience where I was looking at someone else and I said, “I can’t believe that’s me.” I felt that it was someone who was well known enough to know who that was. Was that also a particular focus?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: Would that be one of the two I haven’t identified?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: I also had a dream that was quite fuzzy but it seemed to involve the present royal family in England. I got the impression that perhaps I was an observing essence there, and I wondered if I’m observing essence of Camilla Parker Bowles?

ELIAS: Correct.

DARYL: Is Sandel the directing essence?

ELIAS: No.

DARYL: Is she observing?

ELIAS: No, not of that individual.

DARYL: But somebody else that’s closely within that circle?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: And I gather that would be something she had to investigate?

ELIAS: Correct! (Laughs)

DARYL: I know that she feels a lot of ties to that particular group of people. I’ll pass that along to her.

I also had a dream about the singer Joni Mitchell, and during the dream I had this faint impression of Myranda although I didn’t see her around. I wondered if I’m observing essence of Joni Mitchell.

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: Would that be throughout most of her life also?

ELIAS: Adult life.

DARYL: Now, is Myranda also observing?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: So that’s why I was aware of her.

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: That was an interesting dream. I guess I’m doing an observing essence thing right now.

Now, the theosophists have come up somewhat within our group due to Lawrence. I noticed whenever I start reading about them that I would have fear. I wonder if I have a focus that’s involved with them.

ELIAS: No, but you do incorporate a focus that incorporates knowledge of them in that time framework and does not agree with their philosophy and deems it to be dangerous.

DARYL: Is that my London focus that knows Oscar?

ELIAS: No.

DARYL: I also wondered about him. He’s the one that has the last name that could be a first name. With this George stuff going around, I wondered if his last name is George?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: All right! Now I just need a first name! What is it with me and the name George?

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! And what is YOUR impression?

DARYL: Well, I don’t know. I didn’t think I particularly liked it, but I have George Sand, I have Georgia Donner, I currently live on Georgia Drive, and I figured this guy’s name was George. I don’t get it. (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: Another investigation! (Chuckles)

DARYL: I also wanted to know, do I have essences observing me now?

ELIAS: In this present moment, no. Previously, yes.

DARYL: Well, I would think they’d want to stick around for the shift! (Both laugh)

As far as Dream Walkers go, I understand from Myranda that my aspect is involved with water and shores. Is that correct?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, although let me clarify that this is an input associated with design, not necessarily actual creation.

DARYL: We finally got that, I think. When I was trying to investigate that, I saw water and shores and I also saw a seagull that was passing back and forth between the two. I thought that I had something to do with birds, but I understand that that’s Borledim and so I wouldn’t. What’s the significance of the seagull?

ELIAS: Input of a particular species that may be associated with certain bodies of water.

DARYL: So that would also have to do with design?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: At that time I got a name, and I’m not sure if it’s associated with the Dream Walker or a focus or what. It’s Amiara, A-M-I-A-R-A.

ELIAS: This is associated with a Dream Walker.

DARYL: Is it mine?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: Ooo! That’s a pretty name. At least it wasn’t named George, huh? (Elias laughs)

I also had the name Miro, M-I-R-O, float into my head and it seemed like it was a first name.

ELIAS: That is a focus.

DARYL: And I also got the name Sasha.

ELIAS: That is the Russian.

DARYL: The one at Faberge?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: A while back I was thinking of using this session to discuss other dimensions with you because I’d been having dreams definitely that had to do with other dimensional focuses. Starting that very night, I started some kind of additional interaction in my dreams that had to do with that. Initially I thought it was you, but then I had the impression that it was actually a class at the Alterversity. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

DARYL: I also had the impression that we make field trips to other dimensions.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

DARYL: Again kind of fuzzy on the time thing and everything, did my interest in knowing more kind of create that class in the future, or it’s actually happening now and I’m going there in the dream state?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, both.

DARYL: It certainly was handy to have a class all of a sudden. So that’s most of my impressions for now, unless I have some extra time at the end.

I wanted to talk to you some more about the fear and breathing stuff and some other things connected with that, I think. The last session we talked about me moving my attention, because it becomes stuck a lot of times, and owning and directing my power. I know I still get scared at particular things. For example, when we did the projection to Jungle Jim, I was scared by all that energy. But there’s other times when I don’t feel like I’m really that scared but I’m still having fear and breathing stuff.

Even before my last session, I had come to think that perhaps one of the reasons that I was doing it was to annoy myself, as an expression of my frequent automatic response of “I don’t like this,” and that was kind of a reflection of my duplicity beliefs about what’s good and what’s bad, and also a reflection of my feelings that I don’t like being here in this dimension. I also thought that part of it was to give myself opportunities to learn about moving my attention.

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: Is that all correct?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

DARYL: So, am I going to keep annoying myself with this until I deal with all those beliefs or I learn how to move my attention?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. You are offering yourself more information in relation to allowing yourself to move your attention, and you also are presenting this manifestation to yourself as a signal in association with some experiences or movements that you do not incorporate a preference to. Therefore, you are offering yourself imagery, in a manner of speaking, to be helpful to you in identifying your preferences and what are not your preferences.

DARYL: Okay, so I’m having that when ... I’m confused about the preference/not-preference. Am I having that when I don’t have a preference?

ELIAS: Correct, which is significant, for this does gain your attention. In this, you may recognize that it is quite acceptable that you do not necessarily participate in all of the actions that other individuals choose to be participating in.

DARYL: Could you give me some more information on that, because I’m still confused.

ELIAS: You interact with a group of individuals.

Now; several of these individuals do incorporate some expressions or issues in association with fear — yourself, also. You all are moving in a similar direction in becoming more familiar with yourselves. You have chosen certain avenues to be engaging to be accomplishing this action of allowing yourself more of an expression of trust and acceptance, and to reinforce your recognition of your abilities and therefore also generating more of an objective knowing of yourselves.

Now; although you have chosen to be interactive with each other and you do share what may be termed as a common theme, this is not to say that you do not incorporate individual preferences. This is another aspect of the movement in becoming more familiar with yourselves. Not merely to be aware of certain beliefs, but to incorporate an awareness of the beliefs that influence your preferences, to acknowledge your preferences, and allow yourselves each more of an expression of freedom.

Now; this is not always shared by other individuals. Each of you incorporates your own preferences, and other individuals within your group may not share similar preferences in different subject matters, so to speak, or different incorporations of actions. It is significant and important for you each to recognize that you do share a common theme within your group, but you also incorporate uniqueness and you each incorporate preferences.

Now; in association with investigating focuses, you do incorporate a commonality in your curiosities in relation to other focuses of yourselves. But recognizing YOUR preferences, Ashrah, and examining the investigation of that particular focus, it is quite understandable that you would incorporate an expression of fear in association with connecting to that particular focus, for there is a strong association of isolation.

DARYL: Which focus are you talking about? I’m not clear.

ELIAS: Your focus that you have collectively attempted to be investigating, that you have named to be your Jungle Jim. That particular focus incorporates experiences that YOU associate with isolation, which generates a fear and is not a preference.

DARYL: So I have an actual focus in that timeframe? Or...?

ELIAS: This is not what I am expressing. I am expressing to you that your mere participation in the activity of the group in association with that particular focus generated a response within you.

DARYL: So in that case, the fear would indicate that that is not my preference?

ELIAS: Correct.

DARYL: That isolation is not my preference.

ELIAS: Correct.

DARYL: Well, I think that’s true.

ELIAS: This is also an opportunity for you to view that the incorporation of certain expressions may be manipulated in manners that you may associate as positive or negative. Generally speaking, you associate the expression of fear or the experience of fear as negative. In this particular expression, within your beliefs, it may be associated as a positive, for it is offering you information in association with your preferences.

DARYL: So if I’m suddenly getting the sensation of fear and the breathing thing, should I look around as to what I’m creating in that moment in terms of preferences?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: And that could be appearing in different forms?

ELIAS: Correct. Objective imagery is abstract.

DARYL: That’s interesting, because I did feel like there was something going on there. I wondered when I got the fear specifically about that individual Jungle Jim and that experience. I knew that it was what I considered a threat and I thought I was generating dangerous energy. But then the fear continued and so I began to wonder if there was a message that I wasn’t getting. Would this be what I wasn’t getting?

ELIAS: Correct.

DARYL: Wow. Now, I created a conflict in the past day, and one of my interpretations of what it was expressing was that I was not paying attention to what I was telling myself. Is that connected also to this?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: So then it’s basically what my conflict has been about?

ELIAS: Correct. Not clearly paying attention to you and your communications and what you are actually doing.

DARYL: I’ve been trying! (Laughs)

ELIAS: I am aware. I am also aware of the tremendous challenge associated with this action, for it is quite unfamiliar and therefore most individuals do incorporate difficulty in varying degrees, so to speak, in association with the accomplishment of this action.

DARYL: I felt myself in the past couple days, too, kind of feeling like I was drifting away from my ability to pay attention.

ELIAS: I am understanding.

DARYL: I felt like I was so tired of trying...

ELIAS: And as I have expressed recently, this is the reason that there has been an incorporation of no sound in relation to our group sessions.

DARYL: Really?

ELIAS: It is an action that I have chosen in association with emphasizing the significance of paying attention now.

DARYL: Wow, okay. Regarding that conflict and the not paying attention messages, is there anything else going on that I’m completely blind to?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. This is what you are addressing to now.

DARYL: I was surprised by that coming up. I have a couple more focus questions since we have a little time.

When I was having a dream about the Romanovs being held in captivity, I saw a focus of Caroll outside of the house as one of the people who wanted to do harm to the family, and I wondered if there’s a focus of his involved in the execution of the Romanovs.

ELIAS: Not in the actual action, but an individual that incorporates knowledge of the action or of the planning of the action.

DARYL: A couple of impressions from Oona — she was wondering if Neva Bond, who is a sister of Jessie Bond, is a focus of Oona?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: And she was also wondering if Edna’s father, Jacob Ferber, is a focus of Ruther or if Ruther is observing essence?

ELIAS: Observing essence.

DARYL: We have about five minutes left, if there’s anything that you would like to share with me that you think would be helpful. That would be wonderful. Or if not, we can close.

ELIAS: Allow yourself, Ashrah, to be playful with what you are engaging in this present time framework. What is meant in this is to allow yourself to relax your association with absolutes. Allow yourself to incorporate more of a flexibility with how you associate with certain experiences and expressions, one of which being fear. For, you are changing your associations and you are redefining. Therefore, attempt to incorporate an openness and not to be generating an absolute in association with what you express.

DARYL: I just remembered this, too. Sometimes when I’ve been able to move my attention intentionally, I come to this place that seems to be the same, where I feel somewhat vulnerable and somewhat shaky. I know that with Oona, she’s had similar things. Is that somehow associated with where we’re shifting to?

ELIAS: Yes.

DARYL: The other thing that we both felt that’s hard to describe is that we were feeling fear but that it didn’t feel like fear.

ELIAS: Yes, this is quite associated with what I am expressing to you.

DARYL: So I should keep open in allowing my experiences to be different?

ELIAS: Correct, and even your associations with familiar experiences, for your associations are altering, also. This is another movement of redefining within your reality. What may have been expressed in absolute as negative previously may not necessarily be viewed as negative now, and what may have been expressed in absolute as positive previously may be different now.

DARYL: One last thing, when Oona and I were talking on the phone about moving our attention, we suddenly got a lot of interference and we thought that was you. Was that you?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Merely a validation.

DARYL: It was very effective! (Elias chuckles) It also made us laugh, so that’s good.

Well, this is great! I got a lot of validation of impressions and a new understanding of what’s going on right now.

ELIAS: Very well, and perhaps you may allow yourself to relax.

DARYL: Maybe! (Elias laughs) I’m not promising anything!

ELIAS: I am aware! I would not be expecting miracles! Ha ha ha ha!

DARYL: It’s been a great pleasure talking to you objectively.

ELIAS: And you also, my friend. Remember to incorporate gentleness within yourself.

DARYL: All right.

ELIAS: Very well, and I shall continue to be offering my energy to you.

DARYL: Good, because I’m used to you being around now.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Very well. You may offer my greetings to your friend Oona.

DARYL: All right, I shall.

ELIAS: To you in great affection as always, my friend, Ashrah, au revoir.

DARYL: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 1:11 PM.

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