Friday, January 31, 2003 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Jens (Ranatad)

Elias arrives at 6:04 AM. (Arrival time is 17 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

JENS: Hello! Bonjour, mon ami. (Elias laughs)

ELIAS: What shall we be discussing this day?

JENS: First of all, I must be asking if you could freeze the time. I have too much to talk to you about — more than one hour. (Elias laughs)

Okay, let’s start. We have a new baby in our family and I want to know family, orientation and all that information. I think she is belonging to Sumari, orientation soft, and aligning with Milumet and/or Vold. I’m not sure about. The name, the essence name should be Ophelia or something like that.

ELIAS: I am acknowledging of you in your impressions. Your impression of essence families, Sumari/Milumet, is correct. Orientation is also correct, being soft. As to essence name, you are almost correct. (Laughs) Essence name Ophile, O-P-H-I-L-E (oh FEEL).

JENS: And she is belonging to Milumet or aligning with?

ELIAS: Aligning.

JENS: Aha, thank you. And belonging to Sumari?

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: Incredible. She is thought focused?

ELIAS: Political.

JENS: Am I thought focused?

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: I have an impression with the number 786. Is this the total number of my focuses?

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: What is my signature color?

ELIAS: And your impression?

JENS: Light blue.

ELIAS: That which you would identify as powder blue.

JENS: What is the color of my focus?

ELIAS: And your impression?

JENS: Something like orange or yellowish. I’m not sure about that.

ELIAS: Gold.

JENS: Now, I had some impressions of my other focuses and I want to validate this. Let’s start. There is one focus in the time framework of 1736 in the San Francisco bay area. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: And there is my younger daughter, she is a dancer in a saloon at this time.

ELIAS: Correct.

JENS: I wear a blue uniform and I think I’m a clerk or something like that at the post or railway. I thought at first a telegraph company, but telegraph didn’t exist at this time. (Slight pause) Could you say something to my impressions?

ELIAS: Not post, either. This is a uniform, in a manner of speaking, associated with a soldier.

JENS: I fell in love with the dancer but I never had enough trust to start a relationship with her. I have a strong impression of a lost opportunity, because I died very young.

ELIAS: Correct.

JENS: She became very old and she had known about my feelings to her.

ELIAS: Correct.

JENS: I have a feeling of strong guilt, because I have lost the chance.

ELIAS: Ah, but my friend, the opportunity has not actually been lost, merely not chosen in that one focus.

JENS: How do you mean this?

ELIAS: For you engage other focuses with this essence and your choices are different in other focuses.

JENS: My older daughter has a focus at this time too, but she was a very virtuous or moral older lady. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: (Laughs) It took me five or ten minutes to get these impressions. (Elias laughs) Interesting. And my present wife lived at this time framework and in this area too, but she was male at this time. (Pause)

ELIAS: In which time framework?

JENS: 1736.

ELIAS: Correct.

JENS: Thank you very much. I’ve got an impression of another focus. Was I Grace Kelly or related to Grace Kelly? (Pause) The actress and princess, you know?

ELIAS: Observing essence.

JENS: I have an impression that her death was not an accident. It was a suicide. (Pause)

ELIAS: Correct.

JENS: It has something to do with her gender. She didn’t feel anymore female. She was more connected or relating to male at this time and she was afraid of coming out or something like that.

ELIAS: Correct.

JENS: Thank you. I’m extremely good! (Elias laughs) Am I an observing essence of Heinz von Foerster?

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: Observing, not directing?

ELIAS: Correct.

JENS: There is a connection to Japan, a female focus.

ELIAS: Correct.

JENS: And another to an Indian focus, not in Asia but in America.

ELIAS: One northern, one southern. (Pause)

JENS: Another focus, very interesting, it was a female in old Egypt, time perhaps 2073 BC.

ELIAS: Correct.

JENS: She took part in a ritual which was sexual oriented and with drugs?

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: And she was political focused and Zuli aligned?

ELIAS: Correct.

JENS: Unbelievable!

ELIAS: You are paying attention to your impressions! (Laughs)

JENS: There is another connection to Jeanne d’Arc. Am I directing or observing essence of her?

ELIAS: Observing partial focus, not the entirety.

JENS: Most of my focuses are female. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Correct.

JENS: There is another impression related to the gypsies, as a fat mother and a very attractive daughter. Am I both of them in different time frameworks or something like that?

ELIAS: Yes. Different time frameworks.

JENS: Two different individuals?

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: I have a future focus in 2074. Is this correct?

ELIAS: As what you term to be the birth date, yes.

JENS: I got an impression about a fat monk in Robin Hood’s time. Perhaps that monk you can see on TV and in movies?

ELIAS: Not that particular monk, but yes, you are correct.

JENS: There is another connection. The daughter of Grace Kelly, Stephanie, she has a connection to Emperor Nero. Was Nero another focus of her?

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: And there is another focus: farmer, male, white, and he is very submissive. He is kneeling, the hands tied behind his back. Is this correct, and what is the meaning of this? I don’t get any meaning for me. Is this just an exercise to get impressions?

ELIAS: You are correct, this is another focus of you. It is your offering to yourself in practicing paying attention to your impressions and observing different focuses that experience quite differently from yourself.

As to a meaning, so to speak, it is merely your offering to yourself to allow yourself to view other focuses which are creating quite different realities from yourself. You may incorporate some beliefs concerning the choices of some of these focuses, which offers you the opportunity to examine those beliefs, recognize your response to your viewing of different experiences, and therefore to be accepting within yourself.

In this, it is, in a manner of speaking, useful to you in this focus for it is helpful in allowing yourself to be viewing other individuals in this time framework which may be engaging similar choices and not to be expressing judgment in relation to them. Are you understanding?

JENS: I know what you mean.

There was a voice which popped up in my mind one and a half years ago. It was a connection with myself, but it disappeared. Why? Can you give me any explanation? (Pause)

ELIAS: Within that time framework, this experience incorporated a potential to be somewhat jarring or threatening to your identity now, and therefore you have chosen to discontinue with the experience.

JENS: Thank you. What did I create last week, exactly one week ago? Did I experience more allowance in turning attention to self and now?

ELIAS: Yes, and what is your confusion?

JENS: (Laughing) I thought if I could create this, I could do this regularly; but I noticed that I went back to old habits, to old behavior. I thought I had reached a milestone.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) I am understanding, but this also, my friend, is not unusual. Individuals allow themselves experiences and moments in which you may recognize yourself to be expressing much more of an openness; but to not overwhelm yourself, you also choose a process, so to speak, offering yourself evidence of your ability but also moving into the expression of your ability in increments.

JENS: Because I know this feeling. I had this feeling in 1992 when I came back from Mexico and another time in 1999 when I came back from Mauritius, so it’s not completely new to me. Now I understand the meaning of the communication. My communications are extremely pleasurable feelings and I want to continue this.

ELIAS: I am understanding. In this, as you continue to be trusting yourself and holding your attention upon you, you shall continue to generate that more often and more clearly. This is, in actuality, my friend, also influenced by your allowance of yourself to be expressing appreciation, which is quite significant.

JENS: I had last year another two moments during which I experienced the feeling of not being separated from everything else, even to not be separated from another individual, in this case from my older daughter. But I can’t go back to these experiences and I can’t repeat these experiences.

ELIAS: Ah, but you can! (Laughs) This also is associated with appreciation, for as you express acceptance and appreciation within yourself, of yourself and of what you create within your world — even other individuals — you allow yourself to move into this experience of the lack of separation and the intertwining of yourself and all that is within your reality. This is experienced in moments in which you are expressing a genuine appreciation and knowing, which, as I have stated, is essentially the expression of genuine love — which, as I have stated, is a truth and therefore is quite powerful.

JENS: (Background noise of children playing) Sorry, but I have to move. I can’t concentrate enough. (Pause) Now I’m ready again.

I get an impression of the number 34. To my opinion, it’s a group of 34 individuals including me. They do an action together in the same time framework, but I can’t identify the action. Could you help me?

ELIAS: It is not the action, in actuality, that is significant, but the recognition of the number and that it applies to individuals including yourself. For, this impression is associated with this number of individuals that you most often share other focuses with.

This group of individuals are individuals that you most frequently share other focuses with. That is the action that your impression is concerning — not a specific action as to events or actions within a focus, but the action of sharing focuses with this number of individuals consistently.

JENS: Okay. I understand the meaning of this number. Thank you.

Next topic. I create quite interesting imagery which is related to mildew in my flat, looking for real estate and building a house, and related to missing trust in building companies or enterprises and not having enough money. Now I want to know how to realize this house building together with a nice piece of real estate. What should I do or in which direction should I turn my attention? Pay attention to self, but are there special issues or topics I should pay attention more to realize this? (Pause)

ELIAS: You are recognizing your want and partially a preference, but you are not recognizing beliefs that are expressed in association with this movement. In this, allow yourself to examine your beliefs concerning responsibility and the hindering element of that expression in some manners (in) your responsiveness to your belief concerning responsibility in relation to family. In a manner of speaking, this particular influence of this belief prevents you from incorporating a lightness and a playfulness, which hinders your movement in generating what you want in association with this property, so to speak.

Also, let me express to you that you incorporate a translation in thought concerning what you want in relation to this property, but you also incorporate a belief concerning family and the interactiveness of your family within more largely populated areas. Are you understanding?

JENS: Not completely, but I know the direction.

ELIAS: In this, your translation in thought is an ideal, so to speak, that you wish to be incorporating a type of property that appears to you within thought to be quite pleasant; but also recognize that you do incorporate an expressed belief concerning the interaction of your family and the necessity for their interaction within more populated areas.

JENS: So, at present I want to move to a more populated area, and this is influenced by a belief. Truly, I don’t want to move to this more populated area but to another area which is less populated.

ELIAS: This is precisely what I am expressing to you, that you wish to be locating in what you think of as an ideal in a less populated location, but you also incorporate an expressed belief concerning your family in association with being located in a more populated area. This belief which is expressed is influencing your lack of creation of the other. Now are you understanding?

JENS: Yes, I know. Is this the only reason for hindering or for avoiding of this movement, or are there any other reasons?

ELIAS: Partially a lack of trust in your ability to generate that.

JENS: (Laughing) Okay! How can I change this?

ELIAS: By recognizing the influence of your beliefs and not attempting to change them or to eliminate them, but merely acknowledging that these beliefs exist and you incorporate them, but that you may also trust yourself and choose differently. You are not bound by these beliefs. But if you are not recognizing them, they continue to be expressed and are continuing to influence what you create or do not create, for you do not offer yourself permission to choose otherwise.

JENS: So the best thing would be to recognize my beliefs according to responsibility to my family and to trust, and then it should be realistic to create this want?

ELIAS: Yes!

JENS: If I look at the money side, I doubt I can do it! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Engage your attention to your communication of imagination. Offer yourself permission to be expressing more playfulness and listening to your communication of imagination, and allowing yourself, in association with those communications, to choose and to act.

JENS: Many years ago I had a dream. At this time I had no children, and in this dream I had three children in the ages of two, three and five years, and I lived in a mansion with a large piece of real estate around it. There was an invisible stargate, a portal where you can go through and move to, for example, a nice beach or something like that. Has this dream only symbol elements or are there predictive elements?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, you have offered to yourself two expressions of imagery in association with this dream imagery. In this, one is an actual viewing of a future focus. The other which you have presented to yourself is what I have expressed to you in this conversation concerning listening to your communication of imagination, for you have presented this imagery to yourself specifically to serve, in a manner of speaking, as an inspiration and to offer yourself a type of communication which allows you to recognize the potential and possibility that you may create. Therefore, the imagery was literal and figurative, both.

JENS: Which part is literal? The children? (Laughing)

ELIAS: The expression of the future focus is literal. The figurative is the inspiration of what you may create in this focus — not necessarily precisely that exact representation of that exact dwelling or the portal in that particular manner, but that you do incorporate the ability and express a potential to be generating much more of what you want in association with your home, so to speak.

JENS: What is the imagery of the mildew in this topic?

ELIAS: What is your impression?

JENS: It is pushing me to trust to move, because here in my flat it is too small and old. You know what I mean?

ELIAS: Yes, and you are correct. But also allow yourself to move your attention to that expression of appreciation. Allow yourself to be remembering the powerfulness of that perception and how it alters your reality. For if you are expressing an appreciation and an acknowledgment of what you are creating now, you shall allow yourself to create more as you continue to move.

JENS: (Laughing) So don’t be pessimistic.

ELIAS: (Laughs) In a manner of speaking. For what you express outwardly, my friend, in energy, you also reflect to yourself. Therefore, if you are expressing disappointment and a lack of appreciation of what you have already created, this is the energy that you shall be projecting outwardly and this is the expression that you shall create.

Whereas, as you begin to allow yourself to appreciate and acknowledge what you HAVE created and what you ARE doing, you shall acknowledge yourself, and in that acknowledgment you shall also generate the expression of trusting yourself much more. This allows you much greater freedom in your movement and what you create.

JENS: Another topic — you know I want to write my thesis for years. At present, I create a situation of no motivation. I had in the past created single ideas, I criticized the superficiality of other theses, but I’m not able to get an overall concept for my own thesis. Is it fear? I feel there is a particular reason, a communication in that imagery.

ELIAS: Examine your motivation. For you express that you want to engage this action, but I may express to you that you THINK you want to be expressing this action and generating this writing. In actuality, if you engage a genuine want to be incorporating that action, you shall generate it. But you do not genuinely want to be expressing that writing. You are expressing within yourself your belief that you SHOULD be creating this writing, but the identification of what you SHOULD be creating and what you WANT to be creating are quite different.

In this also you may allow yourself to pay attention to your communication of imagination. This is one avenue of communication that within yourself, my friend, has become quite dusty. Perhaps you may allow yourself to dust off this particular avenue of communication and allow yourself to listen to it once again.

I may express to you a recognition of your energy that as a small one you listened to this avenue of communication of imagination quite clearly and often. You allow yourself to listen to this particular communication quite infrequently now. In your terms, you have misplaced your playfulness.

Perhaps in allowing yourself to re-establish your playfulness and listen to your imagination, perhaps you shall generate the genuine want, and therefore create some of these expressions that you think you want but that you are not creating for you are expressing beliefs much more strongly to the contrary.

JENS: You have said I have misplaced my playfulness and I don’t think that I even express playfulness! (Both laugh)

ELIAS: I may express to you, you did pastly incorporate a playfulness, but you have, in a manner of speaking, lost that expression for quite some time framework, incorporating a seriousness that prevents you from expressing that playfulness.

JENS: This seriousness results from my responsibility for my family.

ELIAS: Yes.

Now; let me also express to you, not merely your family but yourself also, and how you should be expressing yourself within your society, rather than allowing yourself, my friend.

Look to your children, look to your small ones, and allow yourself to appreciate their allowances of themselves. Perhaps you may re-discover your playfulness and therefore also allow yourself much more freedom in creating what you want.

JENS: You said perhaps! (Laughing)

ELIAS: It is your choice. Ha ha ha!

JENS: Perhaps is perhaps. My daughter is making noise — it reminds me I should pay more attention to the playfulness of my children. (Both laugh)

ELIAS: Very well! It may be quite instructional.

JENS: On last Monday did I see essences in my vision and the energy fields of other people?

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: And even of unanimated objects?

ELIAS: Yes.

Now; also pay attention to these actions that you have been incorporating recently, my friend, for in this you incorporate an excitement but also a seriousness. Allow yourself to recognize that even in your attempt to allow yourself some expression of playfulness in paying attention to your impressions and viewing other focuses and incorporating brief interactions with other essences, you may sustain your experiences much longer and much more clearly if you are allowing yourself to relax and to be playful in your experience.

JENS: I’m too serious most of the time. (Unintelligible) ...if I had playfulness or something like that, at least in my thinking. (Laughs)

ELIAS: In this, recognize what you have engaged in this conversation with myself and how much laughter you have incorporated. Allow yourself that freedom in other experiences also, my friend.

JENS: Last question. What should I tell my wife? She experiences quite interesting imagery about teeth cleaning with herself and with the children. With the children, it is, at least in my opinion, strongly related to personal responsibility. Perhaps you could help her on this topic.

ELIAS: It is partially associated with responsibility and also partially associated with protection. Examining the beliefs associated with protection may be quite helpful.

JENS: It is hard for her to let it go. It’s even impossible for her...

ELIAS: Not impossible!

JENS: ...to let it go, to not express responsibility for the teeth of the kids and to protect them.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, I am understanding the strength of these beliefs and I am not expressing to you not to be incorporating any particular actions that you are choosing within your physical experiences.

What I am expressing to you is to examine the beliefs concerning protection, that you may recognize, both of you, that in actuality it is unnecessary to be expressing protection of self or of others. In that expression of protection, you actually generate tremendous limitation and many times create precisely what you do not want.

What shall you be protective of? Even in association with your small ones — which I am understanding the strength of the beliefs associated with protection of small ones — they are quite capable of creating their reality, and indeed do so. And they are quite capable of directing themselves. These are children of this shift, and they do know that they are directing of themselves.

In this, my friend, I am not, as I have stated, expressing to you that you alter your choices of your behaviors or of the actions that you incorporate within your focus and how you interact with each other. I am merely expressing an identification of expressed beliefs that you may incorporate an examination of, to allow yourself to recognize how influencing these beliefs are and, at times, how limiting they are, for you express them in automatic responses rather than recognizing that you are CHOOSING to express them or to not express them.

JENS: Okay, thank you.

I have a fear of public presentations. Does that mean that I have not enough trust or is it not in my intent? Or both?

ELIAS: This is not necessarily associated with trust but acceptance, and partially a fear of the perceptions of other individuals. But also, it is not necessarily associated with your intent in this focus. This is not to say that that is what generates your fear. What generates the fear is...

JENS: There are different reasons.

ELIAS: Correct.

JENS: I know! My conference last month had the meaning to turn my attention to self?

ELIAS: Yes, and pay attention to your communications.

JENS: The imagery with my blood pressure is an indicator for my tension?

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: I know most of what I want to know at present...

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: ...and I thank you for your time — but you have no time! (Laughs)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! Let me also express to you, my friend, pay attention to the expectations that you express to yourself, for at times they are quite great and at times almost overwhelming. Perhaps you may loosen your grip upon these expectations that you place upon yourself.

JENS: Okay, I will take care.

ELIAS: Very well. I express to you tremendous affection, my friend, and I shall be anticipating our next meeting.

JENS: Thank you. Next time I will have turned more my attention to self. I guess this is the reason that I don’t feel drunk or at least tipsy like last time in our last session! (Elias laughs) I thank you and bye. Au revoir!

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friend. And I, in tremendous affection to you, express au revoir.

Elias departs at 7:07 AM.

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