Thursday, January 16, 2003 (Private/In Person)

Participants: Mary (Michael), Gail (William), Nicky (Candace)

Elias arrives at 2:18 PM. (Arrival time is 28 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

GAIL: Hello.

NICKY: Hi.

ELIAS: And how shall we proceed?

NICKY: I’m not sure. (Laughs with Elias)

ELIAS: Very well!

NICKY: I guess I’d like just to keep it a free flow and just go from one to another as it may happen. But I do have two questions and I want to get to them. Bahlah has a question of something that I had asked you about before, which was the name of her imaginary friend, which was you. We’re not coming up with anything, so pretty please?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Elliott.

NICKY: John has a question. He wants to know if he and J. K. Rowling have counterpart action going on.

ELIAS: Yes.

NICKY: Cool. (To Gail) Is there anything you want to get to immediately?

GAIL: Well, just a question that Julie wanted to ask, which was, “Am I going to make any money soon?”

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And you may express my response: “This is your choice.”

GAIL: Oh, and David’s question. He’s going in between London and here, and he’s having conflict again. He’s wondering what he’s picking up with the timeframes overlapping and feeling sad about leaving and feeling like it’s his last time. That’s basically his question. He doesn’t know what he’s picking up on or if it’s him.

ELIAS: In relation to London or in relation to this location?

GAIL: Well, if you could tell a little bit of both, that’d be good.

ELIAS: You may express to Mylo, in the moment that he becomes clear in relation to what he actually wants, this feeling shall dissipate. But he is incorporating confusion, for he is dwelling upon what he thinks he wants and not what he actually wants.

Therefore, you may express to him to pay attention to what he is actually doing and what he is actually choosing, which shall offer him clearer information as to what he actually wants — not what he incorporates obligation to within himself, not what he associates that he should do, but what he actually wants.

NICKY: In the process of redefining different concepts that we have, would you give the redefinition of nurturing? (Pause)

ELIAS: Supportiveness with allowance.

NICKY: Could you expand on that just a little bit?

ELIAS: The expression of nurturing is to be supportive to another individual in moments in which the other individual is expressing a perceived need. In those moments, the action of nurturing is to be supportive of the individual in an allowance of their own expression, not attempting to be suggesting an alteration of their expression but merely offering an allowance of their expression.

NICKY: So in turn, when one looks to nurture themselves it’s the same type thing...

ELIAS: Yes.

NICKY: ...allowing for your own movement...

ELIAS: Yes.

NICKY: ...and accepting where you’re at.

ELIAS: Yes.

NICKY: The only other thing that I really want to bring up is, in a session I just recently read, you mentioned something about a Sumari element — with another wide belief of something that is very Sumari, is what I pick up on it — about the unworthiness, not feeling capable of creating their own thing. I have never seen that anywhere, but it caught my eye. You called it a Sumari element. Is that more predominant in the action of Sumari?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking.

NICKY: In what way?

ELIAS: Individuals that are belonging to or aligning with this family of Sumari express in their movements and in their behaviors objectively a changeableness, and this quality of changeable also many times manifests in the lack of completion. Those expressions, in association with mass beliefs, influence the individual’s value of themself, and therefore there is expressed judgment in relation to self that the individual is not accomplishing in an efficient manner or in the manner in which your societies expect. Therefore, the individual expresses doubtfulness of their abilities to be functioning efficiently.

NICKY: I can see that. I didn’t see it when I first read it, but I can see it now.

GAIL: I’d kind of like to know what the imagery within my car is right now. It’s sounding louder, a deeper tone and louder. I’m not sure exactly what it is, but I just want to know what the imagery is to me.

ELIAS: And your impression?

GAIL: If it’s louder, it’s trying to get my attention. The deeper tone, I’m not sure about. So what comes to mind is listen to myself, but I think I listen to myself a lot.

ELIAS: But this is physical imagery. (Pause)

GAIL: I’m not really getting anything.

ELIAS: Physical imagery, remember, is quite abstract and changeable. In this, what you are presenting to yourself is an expression of physical imagery that you be noticing how you associate with physical manifestations that are not what you term to be living, that you create these also and that you manipulate the energy that is associated with these objects.

You associate much more strongly with individuals and expressions of consciousness that you deem to be living rather than objects that you deem to be not living. You present to yourself clearer imagery in association with other individuals or living expressions.

Those expressions of imagery that are objects, there is an association with the manufacturing of that object from another individual or groups of individuals and a production of those expressions, those manifestations. Therefore, there is an automatic expression that this is offering you some imagery but it is also not generated by you.

GAIL: I went there, but I didn’t think what it actually means to me because I couldn’t get past what you just described.

ELIAS: But this is the point and this is the reason that you, in your terms, could not move past that point. For this IS the point, allowing yourself to view this type of imagery and recognize this type of imagery in similar manner to which you recognize other types of imagery, that you are actually creating this, that this vehicle has been created by you and therefore all of its expressions are also being manipulated by you. In a manner of speaking, you are presenting this to yourself merely as an example of physical objects that you actually generate.

GAIL: I feel like I have a better understanding of that when I connect with Yarr and his program that he has on the computer. I feel like I’m generating that.

ELIAS: But this is also associated with another individual, not merely a thing, so to speak.

GAIL: Oh, I see. I’ll think about that one. (Elias chuckles)

NICKY: So is that to say that what she’s picking up in the difference in the sound of the car, that all that is is an example to her of the different type of abstract imagery?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, and the manner in which the association is expressed.

GAIL: So it doesn’t actually mean anything other than for me to have a different perspective on that I create everything.

ELIAS: Correct, and to allow you the opportunity to view the difference in how you associate with expressions connected to manifestations that you deem to be living and manifestations that you deem to be not.

GAIL: I find that interesting, because I’ve sat and watched my coffee table expand and contract and my walls disappear. I realized that I’m doing that. I’m feeling myself doing that. It’s kind of interesting to me that I don’t connect that to a car.

ELIAS: But a vehicle, within your beliefs, is different. It is a mechanical apparatus that moves and that in a manner of speaking generates its own energy and creates its own functioning.

GAIL: That’s true, so it’s kind of outside of myself.

ELIAS: Correct.

GAIL: I see. (Pause)

NICKY: When this session first started, I had an overwhelming feeling that I wanted to cry and I stopped it. I don’t have a concrete impression. I still give myself a difficult time in giving myself clarified info. For what purpose am I doing that? Why do I hesitate in being clarified with myself? Although I think I’ve been doing a really good job. (Laughs)

ELIAS: It is a hesitancy in association with doubting.

NICKY: What’s been coming to me recently is that phrase KISS it: keep it simple, silly. It seems to me that almost everything you could look at comes down to that, doesn’t it?

ELIAS: Quite. You do incorporate the action of complicating much of your reality, although I may express to you, many of your movements ARE actually quite simple but so unfamiliar that they are that simple and that challenging.

NICKY: So within my hesitation because I didn’t allow myself the full knowing of why it was I wanted to cry, could you assist me in that?

ELIAS: What is your emotional communication?

NICKY: This is where I give myself a hard time.

ELIAS: This is the significance of paying attention to yourself, listening to your communications, and allowing yourself to identify within yourself the signal, what is influencing that signal and what you are generating within the moment that generates a communication. What is familiar is to merely be identifying the signal but not necessarily paying attention to the message.

Now; what you are identifying is not even a signal. It is a physical response, for the action of weeping is a physical response in association with energy.

Now; what is the signal associated?

NICKY: This is where I get confused.

ELIAS: What is the feeling?

NICKY: Actually, it was a great tenderness.

ELIAS: And what is the message?

NICKY: See, this is where I go. I first off want to associate it with objectively connecting with you. That’s my first line of thought and I lose myself in that. I don’t know — you tell me! (Laughs)

ELIAS: What you identified is the response, the physical response, the urge to be weeping, which is a physical body consciousness response in energy; it is a release of energy.

This action of weeping is a release of energy. It may be associated with signals of distress or it may be associated with signals of joy or tension.

In this, it is significant that you allow yourself to recognize the signal or the feeling that is associated with the physical body consciousness response. In that recognition, you may move into more of an evaluation of what you are actually expressing in communication to yourself.

Now; you have offered yourself a recognition of the physical response in identification of the signal. You may also recognize that what motivated that signal is an appreciation — an appreciation of yourself, an appreciation of your interaction with myself in allowing yourself to create that in physical proximity.

NICKY: This morning I was thinking about what I actually presented myself with. This session was presented as a gift to me, so in reality I just created giving myself a gift.

ELIAS: Correct.

NICKY: So that’s what this is all about.

ELIAS: Correct. Your communications are not always what you term to be negative.

NICKY: Yeah, well, you know where I go, so...! (Laughs with Gail)

ELIAS: Emotion is merely an avenue of communication, and it is a clear avenue of communication in association with ALL that you generate, whether you deem it to be positive or negative.

NICKY: Speaking of positive and negative, I read something recently. What I got out of it, one point anyway, was do we not also use those two ideas as signposts as to how we make our choices and what we choose in the moment? Don’t we automatically think this is where I want to go, so this is what I want to do? Because what you’re really feeling is this is good, or I don’t want to do that because I don’t like that. Don’t we use that issue as a signpost in a lot of things?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking. For in a manner of speaking, you incorporate this association with positive and negative in association with your preferences in identifying your preferences and what are not your preferences in your expressions. What becomes confused is that you incorporate these expressions of positive and negative in more of an extreme and generate judgments rather than merely recognizing that there are some expressions and directions within your focus that you prefer and some that you do not.

NICKY: Exhaustion — I have a feeling one of the ideas behind exhaustion is the releasing of energy that has been held tightly.

ELIAS: One, yes.

NICKY: What else is exhaustion all about? What is related to that, when one is feeling exhausted no matter what the situation, whether it be physical work, dealing with people, whatever the case might be, whatever the scenario is?

ELIAS: It is dependent upon the individual.

GAIL: Let’s take my case on Monday and Wednesday when I was feeling totally exhausted and not wanting to do anything and not necessarily thinking of anything.

ELIAS: And what do you view as your associations with that expression, and what do you see as what you were actually incorporating and doing?

GAIL: I think I was giving myself a break from the constant thinking that I do. If it’s not in my awake state, it’s in my sleep state. The last three days my sleep state is very different. I’m aware that I talk to myself a lot. The last three or four mornings it’s been very different.

In my awake state, my thoughts just kind of bombard me and go, “I don’t need to think about that. I don’t want to go into those areas because it’s all just chatter. I want to stay in my now and just stay calm.” So maybe the sleeping is the same thing — I don’t want to listen to chatter, I don’t want to deal with anything, I just want to be in myself and be really calm.

ELIAS: Therefore, what do you view your expression of exhaustion to be?

GAIL: I’m just telling myself to shut up!

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking! In another manner of speaking, a shutting down of functions.

GAIL: Yeah, and it felt good!

ELIAS: At times individuals may incorporate this expression of exhaustion as a method to allow themselves to relax.

GAIL: I’d kind of like to go to sleep to have a break from the chatter. Why am I incorporating it even in my sleep state? I’m aware in my sleep state that I’m doing it. I wake up to a point but I’m still sleeping...

ELIAS: I am aware.

GAIL: ...and I tell myself, “Come on! Just stop it!” Then I pull away from that and I listen to my breathing, and it’s such a calming sensation that I fall into a deeper sleep and I don’t hear the chatter.

ELIAS: You are offering yourself information — one as to your beliefs concerning your sleep state, that if you are not incorporating it in certain manners you shall also incorporate fatigue within your waking state. This is partially what you are expressing. But more so, what you are offering yourself in information is that your objective awareness is present continuously. It is merely a matter of where you are focusing your attention.

As you engage your sleep state, this is not to say that you are turning off your objective awareness; you are merely moving your attention to your subjective awareness. But the objective awareness continues, and if you are allowing, it may be continuing to be focused upon within your sleep state. You may actually be incorporating the action of sleep and also be continuing to incorporate the objective awareness enough in which you continue to engage your thought mechanism. It also offers you information concerning the concentration of time frameworks in which you direct your attention to your thought mechanism.

GAIL: Is that kind of what happened with Gina and Nicky? We were in a restaurant and Gina was talking about Italy or something like that, and I just got this whole imagery of this older woman in Italy and saw everything, smelt everything. I was seeing it but it was very close to my now — it was in my now — but I was seeing it and experiencing it and explaining what I was seeing. Is that what you’re talking about?

ELIAS: No. That is offering yourself an allowance with your impressions and paying attention to your impressions, and allowing your thought mechanism to be incorporating its natural function of translating.

What I am expressing to you is that you are offering yourself the opportunity to actually notice how often you concentrate your attention in relation to your thought mechanism and move your attention away from communications. Therefore, you are thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking, and your attention is at times almost mesmerized with your thinking but not necessarily incorporating accuracy in association with that thinking, but rather merely analyzation.

GAIL: I know I’m doing that and it drives me nuts. That’s why I tell myself, “Stop it! Just stop it!” and I pull myself back into my now where everything’s really calm.

ELIAS: Correct.

GAIL: That’s just basically what I need to do, constantly say, “Back up! Stop it!”

ELIAS: And inquire of yourself, what is your fascination with your thought process in this moment? What is being translated and offered to you in actual accurate information?

GAIL: There doesn’t seem to be a lot of accurate...

ELIAS: Quite.

GAIL: ...information in it. That’s why I get frustrated and say, “You know, I don’t want to think about that,” because it’s like — I want to use the word “useless,” but nothing’s useless.

ELIAS: I am understanding. But in this, as you stop, you may also allow yourself to notice what you are actually doing.

GAIL: Driving myself crazy!

ELIAS: I am aware. (Gail laughs) But in recognizing that you are not actually paying attention and translating an actual communication, you identify to yourself objectively what you are doing, which interrupts the pattern.

GAIL: Is that kind of what you were telling Nicky about her expression of wanting to cry and the feeling behind that?

ELIAS: Correct, paying attention to what you are actually doing and allowing yourself to identify the action that you are incorporating, and therefore allowing yourself to be more aware of yourself. This offers you an empowerment, for it offers you choice. Not merely the black and white, either/or, think or not think — it offers you the opportunity to become familiar with what you are doing and what triggers this.

In moments in which you assess yourself — not within your thought process but within your attention — to be idle and not generating a productivity necessarily, you move your attention to your thought mechanism and you occupy your time framework with your thought mechanism and this action of analyzation. But at times you are unaware objectively of what you are even attempting to analyze.

GAIL: Yes, this is true.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, in your terms, you are generating busy-ness.

GAIL: So I have a belief that I need to be productive?

ELIAS: Yes.

GAIL: It must be a very strong belief.

ELIAS: Yes.

GAIL: But objectively, when I have those thoughts about that, I think I am being productive in terms of creating an environment where I don’t have to go to the typical workplace. I enjoy doing what I do, and I like the free-flow that I’ve created. But are you saying that behind that I have this feeling that I have to be productive?

ELIAS: Yes.

Now; I am not expressing to you that this is bad, and I am not expressing to you that you may be altering of this. What I am expressing to you is that you recognize what motivates your actions, for there are some actions that you incorporate that you do not deem to be comfortable and that you are not satisfied with, such as this analyzation of nothing.

GAIL: Yeah, I don’t like that. I’d like to have something to think about, because my mind goes a hundred miles an hour all the time.

ELIAS: Correct. Let me express to you both, it is significant that you allow yourselves to pay attention to what you actually generate continuously within your day. For in every moment you are expressing choices and actions, and every action that you incorporate is influenced by a belief.

This is not to say that the beliefs are bad or good. Many of the actions that you incorporate, were you to be objectively aware of what beliefs were influencing those actions, in likelihood you would continue to be expressing those beliefs as a choice. But many times in moments in which you are generating events or actions that you dislike, they are motivated by the same beliefs that you reinforce within each of your days in many other actions. In some actions, you are satisfied with your outcome; in other actions, which are motivated by the same beliefs, you are not satisfied.

The significance is that you recognize those beliefs, that you may allow yourselves objectively intentionally to manipulate your choices to generate what you want, rather than expressing automatic responses.

In this, you DO incorporate a belief concerning productivity and being productive continuously. In some expressions, you are satisfied with the outcomes that you generate in that productivity. In other moments in which you may not necessarily be generating the type of productivity that is satisfactory to you, you move your attention to a different type of productivity, which is analyzation.

But you do not always incorporate a subject to be analyzing; therefore, you merely move your attention to your thought process, attempting to generate this action of analyzation with no subject matter. For it is not the subject matter which concerns you; it is the productivity.

GAIL: So is that why I created Danny asking me if I felt good if I earned money through the side work that I do? I said, “No, it doesn’t make me feel any better or worse. It doesn’t matter where the money comes from. It doesn’t matter what I’m doing. I know that I create the money. I enjoy doing the catering; it’s fun. I get a lot of pleasure out of it.” Now you’ve given me something to think about! Oh god! Subject matter! (Laughs)

ELIAS: Not to be over-analyzing! (Chuckles)

NICKY: Something just popped into my head, an incident that happened about a year ago. We were out having coffee, and these two people approached the table we were at and asked for a light. In that moment I felt a total withdrawal. I could not even look at the two people, which was amazing to me because this is not something I do. I don’t have a hard time watching people. But what I felt has been turning around in my system for a long, long time, and it still pops up in my system. I first thought I was going to ask you what was I experiencing, but what comes to my mind is, was he another focus of myself?

ELIAS: No.

NICKY: Then I’m at a loss. I know what I experienced. I know that drawing back and not even being able... From a distance, yes; but from a closeness, no. So is that relative to the closeness within myself in viewing...? (Elias shakes his head) No, it’s not. Would you help me on this one then, please?

ELIAS: What we have termed to be opposite counterparts. Generally speaking, within any given focus, individuals do not present themselves with opposite counterparts often. It is a presentment that may occur within your focus, but not frequently.

Occasionally, very occasionally, individuals shall present to themselves an encounter physically with another individual that they engage an opposite counterpart action with, and there is an immediate repelling.

NICKY: Wow! So that’s what was going on! How so interesting!

ELIAS: Which may be confusing at times. For generally speaking, in the time frameworks in which individuals present themselves with these types of encounters, they are with what you term to be strangers. Therefore, you incorporate no objective reason to be expressing this guardedness or repelling or receding within your energy, for the other individual has not expressed any action or behavior which may be offensive. But there is an automatic immediate recognition of energy.

As I have stated previously many times, you recognize energy much more quickly and efficiently than any type of communication that you may offer between yourself and any other individual. In the recognition of energy, it is much more accurate than any type of communication that you may engage with any other individual in interaction with them.

Therefore, in this type of situation, you immediately recognize the energy expression of the other individual. You may not necessarily be translating in your thought mechanism an identification of what that energy expression is precisely, but you do recognize an immediate response in very similar manner to encountering an individual and experiencing an immediate connection and familiarity. You also immediately recognize this repelling action in association with individuals that you express a counterpart action in opposite counterpart.

NICKY: So what was the information I was giving myself then, just the example of...?

ELIAS: ...of energy, and paying attention to yourself, paying attention to your responses, and allowing yourself to become more familiar with yourself and your energy and how you interact with other individuals and their expression of energy.

GAIL: This last weekend when I was visiting Danny, I connected with a little baby. He was beautiful, and I loved his little blue slate eyes. We had a communication, and I know there was an exchange of energy or information. Can you tell me what it was?

ELIAS: And your impression?

GAIL: I guess it was maybe the feeling of me just accepting him and loving the fragile sweet little thing. It was a mirror image to myself?

ELIAS: Not so very fragile.

GAIL: What do you mean?

ELIAS: A child of this shift, which incorporates tremendous strength and a knowing of self — this is the reflection that you offer to yourself.

GAIL: I just meant fragile in that he was so tiny and so precious. You can feel what I’m feeling when I think about him. I just want to eat him up! (Laughs)

NICKY: Is that the same imagery that’s been going on with all the babies we’ve been viewing, and people talking about imagery with babies and in their dreams there are babies? Is that more in alignment with...?

GAIL: Imagery of acceptance of self?

NICKY: Not so much acceptance of self as much as it is a different kind of awareness. I can’t quite put my finger on it. What is that?

ELIAS: A recognition of directedness and of being and the knowing of being.

GAIL: I just want to pass on that Danny did say to send his hello.

ELIAS: And you may offer my greetings also.

GAIL: Thank you.

NICKY: I have an impression — no, I’m going to be right up-front on this one; it’s a guess (laughs and Elias grins) on Felix and his family and alignment. My impression is that he is Tumold. My guess is that he’s aligned with Vold.

ELIAS: And your impression AND your guess are correct!

GAIL: Way to go, girl!

NICKY: Cool! (Laughs) What I think of when I think of my double alignment is that I’m intermingling them in the manner which is natural, more so than I have before. Would you give me your input on that one?

ELIAS: Affirmative.

NICKY: I was just going to ask you where else to go with it, but I don’t have to go anywhere with it.

ELIAS: Correct.

NICKY: Cool. (Laughs) This is fun! William had an impression on Bahlah’s focus in Italy as being in Genoa. Was that on target?

ELIAS: Correct.

GAIL: Did they actually make the move to another location in the northern part of Italy?

ELIAS: Yes.

GAIL: It was the... (To Nicky) Was it a sycamore tree? Cedar?

NICKY: No, cypress.

GAIL: Cypress trees — did they take that with them?

ELIAS: One.

GAIL: Oh, and that went in that main building?

ELIAS: Yes.

GAIL: It was beautiful. I know that I create that, so is...? Okay, I get it; it’s a living thing like trees and plants. I’m good with that (Elias laughs), but not with cars or mechanics. I keep telling myself there’s no mechanics to anything. I always want to break it down into methods or steps, and I’m going, “No, it doesn’t work like that. There’s no method to anything. It just is, so accept that.”

ELIAS: Ah, but you do generate methods, and they are quite real.

GAIL: Yeah, I know. But I mean the bigger picture is just like there’s no cause and effect and there’s no good or bad or right or wrong. There’s no mechanics to anything and I feel that a lot.

ELIAS: Ah, but this is not necessarily the situation. In your physical reality there are some mechanics involved in your creation of your reality, and there are processes.

GAIL: There are mechanics in creating our reality?

ELIAS: Yes.

GAIL: Such as...?

ELIAS: Such as your manipulation of energy in association with time to generate physical matter.

GAIL: That brings up the question I was kind of leaning towards, not knowing how to go about it. Yarr and I will be connecting with Danny on Tuesday to do what I guess we consider to be an energy exchange within his program. I’m to connect with Danny and be a surrogate. Is that sort of a time projection? Is that a mechanic that I would believe is used to connect with him?

ELIAS: It is a method.

GAIL: Okay, I’ll have to play around with that one.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Very well!

NICKY: I’ve got one more impression. Just a few days ago when I was looking at a map of something or other, Rodney and I, was our shepherd focus together in that little country between Spain and France? I can’t remember the name of it, but it’s just a little bulge going from Spain into France. It’s an offbeat little place.

ELIAS: You are inquiring of the location of that focus?

NICKY: Yes, right.

ELIAS: Portugal.

NICKY: I wonder, what was my fascination with that little area that I found between...

ELIAS: Investigate.

NICKY: I guess so! (Both laugh) Is there anything that you could relate to us before we end our session here?

ELIAS: Continue noticing.

NICKY: It’s a full-time job!

ELIAS: Quite! (Both laugh)

NICKY: Cool. I’m starting to get flutters. Is that my anticipation of feeling we’re going to objectively be disconnecting and now I’m feeling sad because I don’t want to?

ELIAS: But we shall be interacting again quite soon.

NICKY: Yes, this is true.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Very well. To you both I offer my affection, as always. I anticipate our continued interaction, in your terms, in short linear time framework, and I offer my supportiveness and encouragement to you each. In great fondness, my friends, au revoir.

Elias departs at 3:19 PM.

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