Wednesday, January 8, 2003 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael), Jon (Sung) and Erin (Melody)

Elias arrives at 12:48 PM. (Arrival time is 20 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

JON & ERIN: Morning.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And how shall we proceed this morning?

ERIN: I’m going to start again.

ELIAS: Very well.

ERIN: I wanted to talk about some serious things and then some fun things after. The first thing that I was wondering about is that lately it’s been a lot of snow and discomfort and coldness, and I feel a lack of energy and constriction.

I’ve been noticing some belief systems, and the one I really want to address to is a belief that I think I have about discounting myself in regards to my abilities. I’m not sure how to define the belief since it’s intertwined with other beliefs that I have.

Some aspects that I noticed were I believe that study is required for change. I believe that I have a lack of ability to focus my attention and that I’m lacking in self-application and willpower. So I was wondering if you could help me clarify that belief and define it, in a way.

ELIAS: And what do you perceive you are requiring willpower in relation to?

ERIN: I guess the ability to continue with a task. I’m interested in doing out-of-body exercises. I believe that I need to keep my attention focused for long periods of time, but I believe that I can’t do that or that I don’t have the ability to do that.

ELIAS: Very well. Let me express to you, first of all, it is not a requirement to focus your attention for long periods of time in order to generate the action of projection. In actuality, you may be allowing yourself projecting in an instant.

Now; in this, what you may be generating struggle with are beliefs concerning projection itself and the action of it and how it may be expressed. In generating rigid associations with this action, you limit yourself and therefore block your objective awareness of the action of projection. Let me express to you, all that you may incorporate in projecting is to allow yourself to relax and initially, perhaps, to allow yourself a direction, so to speak.

In this, I have expressed to many other individuals the suggestion that you allow yourself merely to project to another location that you are unfamiliar with but that you may be incorporating objective contact with another individual that may verify to you what you discover. This is an easy method to begin practicing and requires little effort and a small incorporation of time framework. You may be engaging this type of projection for merely five minutes and allow yourself to accomplish well.

It is a matter of recognizing and understanding and trusting that in projecting you do not always create that action in association with what you perhaps read concerning what individuals term to be out-of-body experiences, in which you view yourself as a translucent self outside of your physical body and view your physical body and move in manners similar to how you incorporate movement within a physical expression. This is not to say that you may not create that type of projection, but generally speaking most individuals do not initially. But this is not to say that you are not actually projecting; it merely appears differently. You may merely recognize impressions.

As an example, you may choose to project to another individual’s home, a dwelling in which you have not objectively visited or seen. As you project your attention to that location, you may offer yourself impressions concerning the furniture that may be within that dwelling or the books or a painting or an object within a room or merely an impression as to what the physical building appears as.

Now; you may or may not actually incorporate a visual. You may at times not be incorporating a visual but offering yourself impressions.

Now; this is no less valid as a projection. As you continue to practice, you allow yourself more and more of an objective expression of imagery or visuals concerning the location that you are projecting to. In this, as you begin generating visualizations concerning your projections, you may begin allowing yourself the freedom to generate the type of projection in which you view yourself similar to your physical body appearing in another physical location or in another dimension.

But what is significant that you allow yourself is to relax and not discount what you accomplish. For as you continue to acknowledge yourself in your accomplishments, you offer yourself more trust in your action, and this allows you more of a freedom in your choices. The most general reason that individuals block their objective awareness of their projections is a lack of trust, discounting what you offer to yourself through impressions and therefore reinforcing your doubt of your ability. Are you understanding?

ERIN: Yes, I’m understanding. Thank you for that.

ELIAS: You are welcome. Let me express to you also, you incorporate beliefs that at times may be constricting of you in relation to discipline. In this, you generate an association that you must be incorporating discipline to be accomplishing certain tasks. Allowing yourself to relax and acknowledge that you do incorporate that belief but you are not bound to it, and that you may choose in a moment to not be incorporating discipline and to allow yourself a playfulness and allow yourself to be engaging what you WANT to be engaging in a moment rather than what you think you should be engaging in a moment, you shall lessen your obstacles.

I may also express to you an identification of another belief which is influencing presently, and that is associated with your seasons. I shall express to you, my friend, a day is a day. It matters not what season it may be within, it continues to be a day. In that day you incorporate the choices to be creating whatever you want, and you may be incorporating playfulness regardless of whether the day is cold or warm. (Chuckles)

ERIN: I’ve been thinking about how I think of coldness as uncomfortable, and that seems to be a belief, too, that I could choose to be outside and be feeling warm.

ELIAS: Correct, or you may choose to be incorporating insulation that provides you with a feeling of warmth, whether the air is cold or not. (Both laugh) These are all influences of perception.

Allow yourself to view what you generate through perception and what that creates in your reality. If you incorporate a belief concerning seasons and that your winter season is dark and cold, you generate this influence in your perception and your perception creates precisely what the influence is expressing. (Pause)

ERIN: I’d like to ask a question for Becky, my sister.

ELIAS: Very well.

ERIN: She would like to know why she’s created a restriction in her emotional expression that she experienced as a kid, becoming more attentive to thought, and she wants to regain her previous emotional freedom. She would like to know why she’s created that and how she can regain her previous emotional expression.

ELIAS: I may express to you that the emotional communications have not ceased. She merely chooses not to pay attention and to move her attention in different directions. I may express to you, you may offer to this individual the reason, so to speak, that this individual has generated that action in not moving the attention to emotional expressions is that there has been an incorporation of a belief that emotions are dangerous, that they express a vulnerability and therefore are dangerous, and therefore the individual has chosen to move the attention away from the expressions of emotion.

Now; this belief is also associated with the belief that expresses that emotion is a reaction or a response. In this, the belief expresses that emotion is produced in response or reaction to actions or events generally associated with what you recognize as other living things — not necessarily limited to other individuals. This is the association of the dangerous aspect, for there is potential in relation to these beliefs that the individual may express hurt. In protection of self, the choice has been engaged to not pay attention to emotional communications.

Now; it may be helpful to this individual if she is allowing herself to redefine what emotion is and recognize that it is not a response, it is not a reaction. It is a communication and it is generated from self, not outside of self. In recognizing that it is a communication and that it is a strong avenue of communication, it may be less threatening than it is viewed as a reaction. Also, the individual generates a belief, which is inaccurate, that thought is a communication, and therefore has chosen to direct the attention much more so to thought.

Now; in explanation that thought is not a communication, this may also be helpful, for it may offer explanation as to why the thought processes are not always accurate. That may be validated in paying attention to choices and what she is actually doing, for the doing and the thinking do not always match.

ERIN: Is Becky emotionally focused? (Pause)

ELIAS: Political. (Pause)

ERIN: What is her essence name and essence color tone? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Ahmad, A-H-M-A-D (ah MAHD). And your impression as to color? (Pause)

ERIN: Is she a purple?

ELIAS: Plum. (Pause)

ERIN: She remembered herself as a toddler named Thomas the Tank Engine, who was wearing train clothing. Is that a correct remembrance?

ELIAS: Of another focus? Yes.

ERIN: I remembered myself as Harold, last name might be Sanzer, currently an old man in a garden with a fountain and a statue of Buddha. He likes chimes, has a daughter named Carrie, is Sumafi aligned and living in Manitoba, Canada, currently.

ELIAS: I am acknowledging of you.

ERIN: (Laughs) I remembered a focus that we shared, perhaps. My name is Abby Longfellow, living in an orphanage, and knowing a man named Marcel Duchamps. I was very sad and missing my mother. This was in England.

ELIAS: Correct.

ERIN: A focus named Mandy in 1310?

ELIAS: And your impression as to location?

ERIN: Africa?

ELIAS: Northern, yes.

ERIN: I feel another lifetime in Russia. My name’s Ivassily Kosmere, having a relationship with a woman named Yetsina at a court.

ELIAS: Correct.

ERIN: Dennis’ surname is Goldman?

ELIAS: Correct.

ERIN: And he currently attends a university in Washington State?

ELIAS: Yes, although that is being questioned. Ha ha ha!

ERIN: How is it being questioned? I don’t understand.

ELIAS: The individual is questioning his choice and considering another choice.

ERIN: Would I be able to find his name in association with that university in Washington?

ELIAS: I may express to you, I should say so! Let me caution you though, for I am aware that you wish not to be intrusive. The other individual does not incorporate an objective understanding of essence in the manner that you do. (Pause)

ERIN: So he might be afraid?

ELIAS: Or may perceive you as a lunatic! (Both laugh)

ERIN: I wasn’t planning to ... like only maybe view something on the Internet. (Both laugh)

Is my focus color a shade of teal or dark cyan?

ELIAS: Second impression is correct.

ERIN: I like that. I had a dream where Jon’s grandpa, Harold, told me he knew me in France as Clara who was an accountant who believed in hard work, and the dates of 927 to 1100 AD.

ELIAS: Correct.

ERIN: Is it the same focus that Paul knew in New York, or a different one?

ELIAS: Different.

ERIN: Is the name Clara or Claire?

ELIAS: Correct.

ERIN: Either one? (Laughs)

ELIAS: Clara.

ERIN: Moving to essence family impressions, is Janet Sumafi aligned with Borledim?

ELIAS: Correct.

ERIN: Is Chris aligned with Vold and considering a change, maybe?

ELIAS: No. What you are tapping into is a fluctuation of aspects.

ERIN: Then the alignment is Tumold? (Pause)

ELIAS: No. (Pause)

ERIN: The alignment is Ilda?

ELIAS: Now you are guessing! (Laughs)

ERIN: Okay, then! Is Ellen aligned with Gramada?

ELIAS: Yes.

ERIN: Is Doug Ilda/Sumafi, religious focused?

ELIAS: Emotional.

ERIN: Is Kate Sumafi aligned with Borledim?

ELIAS: Reverse.

ERIN: Is Anne Marie Vold aligned with Borledim?

ELIAS: Correct.

ERIN: Grandma Finn is Borledim aligned with Sumari?

ELIAS: Correct.

ERIN: Grandpa Finn is Gramada aligned with Ilda?

ELIAS: Correct.

ERIN: Grandma Glenn is Zuli aligned with Gramada?

ELIAS: Yes.

ERIN: Grandpa Glenn is Gramada aligned with Milumet?

ELIAS: Yes.

ERIN: Jonathan is Tumold aligned with Sumari?

ELIAS: Yes.

ERIN: Gretchen is Sumafi aligned with Tumold?

ELIAS: Yes.

ERIN: Meredith is Borledim aligned with Sumafi?

ELIAS: Reverse.

ERIN: And Sasha is Tumold aligned with Vold?

ELIAS: Correct.

ERIN: Cathy Joyce is Vold aligned with Sumafi?

ELIAS: Correct.

ERIN: Barbara is Zuli aligned with Sumafi?

ELIAS: Sumari.

ERIN: And Steve is Ilda aligned with Vold?

ELIAS: Correct.

ERIN: That’s all I have. (Elias chuckles) I also wanted to ask about your interaction with us. I know I’ve had two dreams where I’ve interacted with you, but I’m not aware exactly of other interactions that are happening. I was thinking maybe blinking lights?

ELIAS: Correct.

ERIN: (Laughs) Okay! I guess that’s all I wanted to ask about. (Elias chuckles)

JON: I guess it’s my turn. I’d like to start out with something that’s kind of related to Erin’s first question. It’s sort of this general dissatisfied feeling not related to anything in particular, and I was trying to figure out what the communication was for that. I was thinking it might have something to do with my beliefs on achievement. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

JON: Then I was wondering, if my normal way of thinking about this and doing is I sort of define a goal for the future and I strive to achieve it, is that an inefficient use of energy that sort of constricts a free flow? Is there a better way to try and achieve an end?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) I may express to you, it is not a matter of better, but I may also express to you that you may be allowing yourself to accomplish with more ease if you are holding your attention more in the now and paying attention to what you are generating now in relation to what you view as your goals.

It is not bad or wrong to be expressing in this manner. Many individuals incorporate this similar type of action and perception in their choice of methods of how they create certain expressions and manifestations. But what becomes an obstacle at times with this type of method is that the individual pays less attention to what they are generating now, which is forming what shall be in what you perceive to be the future in relation to a particular goal.

In this, you may incorporate more time framework in accomplishing than you may if you are holding your attention in the now in relation to what you want in association with your goals, for this allows you to efficiently direct yourself and your energy in relation to those goals.

JON: I wanted to ask you about this one dream I had where I was viewing many different past focuses who were menial laborers. Then I saw a farmer one in a cornfield, and I saw an event of him receiving a phrase in his head. You were there and you explained to me and others the significance of this. I think it was significant because it was like an insertion of information or knowledge or something in that frame of time.

I tried to get an impression about that and got that the phrase was representative of a different pattern of thinking or neurological behavior, and that focus of me, along with others, started thinking in a new way, like to introduce some flexibility in the ways of thinking at that time, and that extra flexibility helped make the shift possible later on. Is that correct?

ELIAS: In association with yourself, yes, it is.

JON: But not in association with others?

ELIAS: Somewhat, but mainly in association with yourself in association with your manifestation now and your participation in this shift in consciousness and your shifting — which also is affecting of other individuals, for every action that you incorporate is affecting in consciousness, therefore is affecting in a rippling effect of other individuals also. But the main significance of the imagery of this dream is associated with you and your shifting.

JON: I was wondering if you could tell me what that phrase was and if it’s an equation or not?

ELIAS: No, and in actuality this is merely imagery that you have chosen as a translation of an action, for you equate, in a manner of speaking, language or words with knowledge and learning, so to speak. Therefore, you generate imagery that expresses an identification of a phrase, but in actuality this is a translation of an action which is occurring, which is, as you have identified, opening neurological pathways and therefore offering a benefit to you in association with widening.

JON: I also had an experience where my mouse pointer on my computer was moving around but my mouse itself wasn’t moving. It seemed to me that I sensed Patel, maybe, was creating this experience but I was like acquiescing to it and creating it, too. I was playing with moving my attention to a position which allowed the experience to be created, and then I’d get into another position which disallowed it. (Elias chuckles) I was wondering if that was a correct interpretation of what was going on.

ELIAS: Correct, and incorporating a playfulness in your experimentation! (Laughs)

JON: I also tried to get an impression of an Alterversity focus of mine. I got the name Jason Milan. I wasn’t sure about the last name, something like Meckar or Mercer. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Mercer.

JON: Is he the son of KC/Nanaiis?

ELIAS: Yes.

JON: I got that at age 17 he goes to the island. I think the date might be 2231. He’s Ilda aligned.

ELIAS: Correct.

JON: I tried to use the empathetic sense, and I got the feeling he likes to glide on time, like ice-skating, sort of. (Elias laughs) I also got the feeling of a larger sort of psychological space. He’s more objectively aware of different communication channels.

ELIAS: Correct.

JON: I got sort of an image or impression of Eliantan and a sky-blue color and that he was one of my favorite teachers.

ELIAS: Correct.

JON: That feeling I got where he’s gliding on time, what is happening when that happens?

ELIAS: It is a type of projection and a recognition of an objective ability to incorporate time in a different manner, bending it, so to speak, and therefore generating different types of experiences with this element, in a manner of speaking. As I have expressed to you previously, time is quite flexible and may be incorporated in many different manners. You are merely familiar with one expression of time.

JON: I was curious about that, actually. When you talk about the vibration of time speeding up or slowing down, with respect to what unit of measurement are the moments closer or further apart?

ELIAS: And what is your impression concerning this question?

JON: The only way I can imagine it is that you have some type of time that’s outside of time. (Elias chuckles) With respect to that, it’s hard for me to try and imagine that.

ELIAS: I am understanding.

JON: I tried to once and it seemed like it had something to do with not holding a thought process. At least that’s the feeling I got.

ELIAS: Partially, but also it is a movement without moments — once again, the expression of creating an action or a thing from nothing.

I am understanding the challenge which is expressed in attempting to assimilate the concept of no time. For as I have expressed to you previously, without the incorporation of time there is no physical matter. It is a key ingredient, so to speak, to generate physical manifestations.

JON: Do you experience some type of sequential motion, then?

ELIAS: No. This also is one of the reasons that within your physical reality it is quite challenging for all of you to be holding your attention in the now, for you are familiar with sequential time. Therefore, it is also familiar to you to be projecting your attention, in your terms, forwards and backwards.

JON: Does time appear to move forward to us just because of the structure of our memory? We just happen to remember backwards, so it appears like it’s going forward?

ELIAS: Partially, and partially in association with the design of your dimension in allowing yourselves to continue to incorporate surprise. Although in association with this shift in consciousness, that is altering also, for you are allowing yourselves to recognize that you may continue to incorporate surprise within the now in widening your awareness, and therefore it is not necessary to be continuing to express this particular aspect of the design of your reality in association with future surprise. (Pause)

JON: Does our objective consciousness move through moments in a sequential fashion, or is that like an illusion, basically?

ELIAS: Yes, it does move sequentially.

JON: I could choose to have it move backwards as well.

ELIAS: Correct.

JON: Just one quick question before we’re out of time. Let’s say that I’m fragmented from three different essences. My essence is fragmented from three different essences, one of which is a Dream Walker which is Sumari, but the overall family of my essence is Sumafi. Would my Dream Walker aspect then be Sumafi because I’m Sumafi, or would it be Sumari because the Dream Walker was Sumari?

ELIAS: The aspect is not necessarily associated with fragmentation. This is a different action. You choose to acquire a Dream Walker aspect associated with the family that you are belonging to.

JON: That makes sense. Well, that’s it.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Very well!

JON: Thank you very much.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome. I shall be anticipating our next meeting.

JON: I will see you in Castaic.

ELIAS: Ah! Physical proximity! Very well! I shall be anticipating that encounter. I offer a playful energy to you both in this wintery time framework. (All laugh) To you each in tremendous fondness, my friends, au revoir.

JON & ERIN: Bye.

Elias departs at 1:48 PM.

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