Session 2544

“Viewing the Entire Picture”
“Being Bridgers in the Emo-Wave”

June 5, 2008

Anjuli’s note: When Mary began with the energy exchange and I was getting ready for Elias to come in I took some deep breaths to relax and played a bit with my energy field and practiced to be present, to stay in the now and to not to think how and with what topic I would start the session. When then Elias came in I did not hear his "Good afternoon", and it also is not on the tape.

ANJULI: (takes a deep breath)

ELIAS: (Chuckles)

ANJULI: (being surprised) Oh! Did you say "good afternoon?"

ELIAS: I did!

ANJULI: (laughs) I didn’t hear that! (Both are laughing) Now I don’t have to think anymore how to start the session! (laughs a lot) And then you laughed because you knew I was not ... what? What did you laugh? You were amused? (laughs)

ELIAS: Quite so, for now it begins! (Both are laughing)

ANJULI: Aha! Hm ... (pause) ... I have sometimes rescheduled the session in various ways, because I didn’t know exactly how to do the talking! ... Ha! ... Ah ...And I wanted to have some more experiences, which I got! (chuckles)

ELIAS: (Quite) so!

ANJULI: OK! ... I was a little bit talking with Mary now about it to see how much about it I can verbalize. ... I think I am exploring something that is very interesting for me and it is a little bit more unfamiliar, and that is why it is very exciting, and I communicate through my emotions, whenever I focus on that again, that this fits for me and that I love it, and now I am curious what it is. ... When I talk with people or when I am in situations and I do the usual interaction but it feels more like interacting with a situation and not necessarily with the people. Or even if I do, I am at the same time aware of that, that these are people and I am acknowledging them and all that, but ... but after that situation, especially if it is an uncomfortable one and I had too much maybe ... not enough my attention on presence and all that, then I "put" it, like I am doing it now with three situations (showing Elias in energy what I do) ... like this .. and then all of a sudden ... (sigh) ... I am sensing lots of ... knowingness, and experiences, and it is as if I interact with a situation and maybe use the inner senses a lot ... (deep breath) ... so, OK! Can I now ask what it is? (Chuckles)

ELIAS: I would express that you have explained what you are doing, for you are engaging your inner senses, and what you are doing is allowing yourself to engage your periphery. Rather than merely entirely focusing upon another individual, what they are expressing or how they are expressing, you are allowing yourself to engage your periphery which allows you to assimilate all that is occuring. In a manner of speaking (what) most individuals do when they engage an interaction with another individual is they focus their attention and in that in a manner of speaking what they are doing is they are focusing in upon subjects of the picture. They are focusing in upon certain details of a picture. What you are doing (is) allowing yourself to incorporate in a manner of speaking a step backward from the situation or from the interaction and allowing yourself to engage and view the entire picture, (not) certain details of it. But in engaging the entire picture you allow yourself to engage your periphery and that allows you to assimilate what is occuring and to understand what is occuring, but engaging the entirety of the picture you may not necessarily incorporate an immediate ability to respond, for the other individual is focusing upon the details and aspects of the picture, and what they are looking for is the responce to those details, which would be specific responces. What you are doing is, you are engaging the entirety of the picture and therefore that creates somewhat of a temporary obstacle in how to respond in communication with what you know and what you have assimilated but not necessarily addressing to the specific in the manner that the other individual is.

ANJULI: Oh! Yes, right. I felt that when I talk with Gottlieb for example and he explains in detail what is going on and in the past I had an ease in .. I say this to that and this to that ... and now that has changed because I am doing what you say and I don’t know exactly how to ... it would distract me to answer in more detail or to these details because I am fascinated by this other way of interacting and viewing the whole picture, and then after this talk I can even at times be a little bit disappointed because I want to talk about ... or express what I am doing, or my experiences, but even if he would ask me, or if I would say "I want to talk about that", I would not know what to say or how to interact.

ELIAS: I am understanding. But (I may) express to you that as you continue engaging in this manner and practice with it you will become more familiar with how to be responding in language in an effective manner. It is (?) (you are) engaging an adjustment time framework (in) which you are shifting from a familiar manner of communicting to an unfamiliar manner of communicating and therefore you are unfamiliar with the words that will express accurately what you want to express. Most individuals are familiar with communicating in a manner in which they choose a common subject. (One individual) introduces a subject and they begin conversing in relation to that subject, and each individual expresses their input, their opinion or their insights in relation to that specific subject, and in many situations when individuals are interacting in a personal manner the subject matter is associated with their personal experiences. Therefore they are discussing that different aspects of the actual physical experiences, such as, a hypothetical example, you may engage a conversation with another individual and you express: "I took a trip to a shop and I saw many objects that I very much appreciated and one object was very interesting to me", and you may elaborate in association with the continuation of the subject. Now, the other individual will engage (the) conversation in a similar manner in responding to what you are saying and interjecting different elements of their own experiences that may be similar or may be different, and they may also express their own preferences and opinions, and in this are exchanging information in relation to physical experiences. Now, you are very accustomed to manipulating language in relation to physical experiences but not as accustomed to incorporate language or manipulating language and words in relation to experiences that are not necessarily physical. Therefore when you incorporate a step back and you are engaging the entire picture in (???) the other individual, the other individual is expressing the details of the specific subject and the physical experiences that have been generated. YOU are incorporating listening but also dealing with the entirety of the picture which (some?) elements of that picture may not necessarily be expressions of the physical experience. They may be associations or they may be feelings or they may be different nuances in perceptions which are not necessarily expressions of the actual physical experience but they are definitely a part of the entirety of the experience for they are different aspects that color the (?). In this, (?) assimilating the entirety of this picture creates a situation in which you are unfamiliar with how to manipulate words (and) language to express your knowing of the situation and of the subject in the entirety of the picture, not merely in the specific details of it.

ANJULI: M-hm, I see. And ...

ELIAS: Not that you will not develop this, for you can and will, but this is a new direction and therefore it may be necessary to allow yourself to practice with it and play with it for a time framework and to (playing) ... (?) attaching different or new words, expanding your words, to associate with the knowing that you incorporate inwardly.

ANJULI: And how does this feel to the other people when I interact like this, in this unfamiliar way? Is this confusing for others?

ELIAS: I would express, to an extent it can be somewhat confusing in different degrees. I would also express that at times an other individual may not necessarily recognize that you actually understand what you are assimilating, for you are not offering the specific feed-back that is expected. Therefore the other individual may perceive that they are not being understood, for this is the familiar direction in which you verify with each other that you are being understood. That when you express a subject matter that the other individual will feed-back to you in specifics (also) which verifies to you that you are being understood. And if the other individual does not feed-back to you in a manner that acknowledges what you have expressed, whether they agree with you or not matters not, but the acknowledgment of what they have expressed is important for verification to them that you understand what they are expressing. This is the familiar (avenue of communication) that you all engage. And when an individual changes that other individuals may become somewhat confused for they may perceive that they are not necessarily being understood, for they are not acknowledged in (coughing) .. a ... (coughing) ... repeat of what they have expressed, or ... (coughing) .. in a statement (coughing) ... of specific acknowledgement. (Coughing)


ELIAS: (Coughing) ... One moment... (coughing, and the cough sounds more and more like Mary’s voice)

MARY: Oops ... (coughing)


MARY: Sorry for that ... Sorry about that... I guess you popped him out. I’ll put you back (in touch)

ANJULI: OK! He coughed a lot.

MARY: Yeah, I was getting pretty shaky, the energy was pretty strong.

ANJULI: Ja, ja, we were talking about interacting (laughing)

MARY: (couphing) Wow!

ANJULI: (laughs) OK!

MARY: Alright, no problem, I’ll put you right back.

ANJULI: OK! (pause)

ELIAS: Continuing!

ANJULI: (laughs) She said she was getting a little shaky, your energy was very strong.

ELIAS: Ah, all forms of communication!

ANJULI: (Laughs) Ja, and then I said, we were talking about interacting, about this whole subject we had just talked about, Mary and me. (Both laugh)

ELIAS: I have expressed to other individuals, this particular wave incorporates a difference, it is much more intense than the other waves have been and it is emphasizing all forms of communication, whatever they may be, and in that it is also tremendously emphasizing differences which is (????) ... intensity.

ANJULI: Aha! So... ah, hm... It is not just our avenues of communication through which we communicate to ourselves but it is also about interation with does not matter what, with people, situations, whole of consciousness, ourselves...


ANJULI: And the various so to speak "languages"?

ELIAS: Yes, all languages, all communications, in all forms, whether it (would be) with yourselves, whether it would be with other individuals, whether it be with countries, whether it be with any situation, with creatures, with your environment, with any forms of communications.

ANJULI: Mh, this is also cool, because I much more understand and experince that objects and everything is consciousness, is beingness, and I can interact... well, as if I recognize that I thought, or a little bit thought, interacting is something you do with words and a mouth, and you talk with somebody who has a head and eyes... (both laugh)... And only they are so to speak alife, like we said in some of the very past sessions, but now ... of course my books and my movies, but also the pillow, the wall, the curtains ... and that is fun ... and situations, and concepts ...


ANJULI: Ha ha. And, Elias, in one of the sessions we did not have ... um, we had a session instead of that, but we did not talk through phone and through a Sumafi energy exchange, we talked "through experiences". I created all of what I wanted to talk with you into experience, and I had thought in the past, interacting means so to speak talking about information or objective situations, but not that I can experience and through this experience so to speak talk with you. (Both are laughing)

ELIAS: (?) experiences are forms of communication also. There are many, many, many, many forms and avenues of communications.

ANJULI: (Pause) And the direction I am now exploring as to how I am interacting ... feels to me very beneficial as to my explorations of the hologram, my reality as a hologram and playing with the hologram?

ELIAS: I would agree!

ANJULI: Ja, aha! Good to know. I feel it but this was something I would like to have some sumafily validating about as it is unfamiliar (Elias laughs) But you know I had a few exciting experiences as to my hologram. That works now, that my hologram is more fluid, Elias!

ELIAS: Ah! And what are you experiencing?

ANJULI: Ja, first of all I feel situations come up immediately even if they don’t look as if they are magic, but they are for they are immediate responses to something that I am exploring.

ELIAS: Such as?

ANJULI: A situation for example?


ANJULI: um... um, um... (Elias laughs) Well, I forgot them... (laughs) ... wait ... hm... Well, maybe I just continue with two situations. One situation was when I watched one of my favourite telenovelas, and somebody died in there, and there was a music, and they were not at a graveyard, they were doing the ceremony at a lake, and there was a music in the background, and then suddenly I had this very strong experience, as if I was merging with al least five focuses I had with you, and with other of my dear essences, about that specific topic that was explored in the movie, like disengagement, moving to other areas, interacting in new ways, feeling like... the music was the song "good bye my lover"... and then the feeling of that focus, that sensing that you for example died in a focus (in which we both were male and were lovers) and I felt connected with that focus of me of how I (in this focus) knew I would continue to explore this relationship with you in another focus (this now as Anjuli) where you are not physically focused, and how that is linked, those two focuses of me. And then I was even sensing focuses that you had with Patel (with a similar experience and I merged with Patel and how he felt when Elias died or in another focus with Elias and how he felt when Patel died, all with imageries of standing on a lake) and various of these things. And then I liked this music so much (note: I had not heard this song before) that a few hours later I went to the internet where the whole movie would be repeated and I checked this scene at the lake where in the movie that song was played, this ceremony, and there was not this song "good bye, my lover", there was just an usual, normal, instrumental music. And my mother had seen that movie too and I asked her because I knew she would have been reacting quite intensely on such a music and would have been reminded on the disengagement of my father, but she said, no, there was just some instrumental music, not something special. And then I realized: ah, well, apparently I have created that song into that movie. Well, I am creating everything. But when I create something outside of what the others create in the collective or at TV or something then it feels much more like recognizing my power. And it was then very intense to me so to speak. (Note: I found that song later on YouTube, it is "good bye my lover" from James Blunt). But I don’t know if that was an example of what you had asked for. That is more an example of creating something that is so outstanding that I feel: oh, that is my hologram and I create my hologram completely on myself. Other situations would be ... something about my mother and then my sister talks about it. Or ... ja, now I remember it. My mother had problems on Sunday ... Ah, now I remember it, Elias! Ja! Now you get your sitation. Are you still there?


ANJULI: (Laughs) OK, that other situations was on a sunday when my mother was frustrated about no daughter interacting with her, that was on Mothers Day, and did that communicating, this interacting like we said in the beginning, interacting with the whole situation and sensing the whole picture, and on the outside I said to my mother, maybe we wait for half more hour, my younger sister may come, and my other sister will also come or maybe we just wait a little bit. And then my yonger sister came and went with her to a lake, and there my elder sister just was intuitive feeling, without phone, she was just going there, and so then my mother created both of her daughters being there, at the lake. And this whole situation was right away addressing to what I had investigated innerly as to my mother and sundays and expectations and at least thousand other things, and then it got created right away into ... a hologram. ...OK, Elias, now you can talk!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

ANJULI: About the two examples you gave... please!

ELIAS: And I would express that these are two fine examples, for (in the first) example you are engaging one type of (???) in which you are creating your own insertion of a particular song to create your own connection with different focuses and different (?). Therefore you created a physical insertion of this particular form of communication, the song, which creates the catalyst for you to be connecting the different experiences and the continued (communication?) and the connection and the interaction between different focuses. In the second scenario you were allowing yourself to practice with this new manner of (???) assimilating, and there also once again engaging the entirety of the picture and contributing to the connection and creations of the satisfactory interaction (????) the comfortableness of that interaction between all of these individuals.

ANJULI: Ah! Aha! So when I am allowing myself to interact like this and stepping back and viewing the whole picture, this then ...

ELIAS: ... allows you to manipulate energy in a manner that encourages the outcome that is more satisfactory!

ANJULI: Aha! So then for example another situation was when we needed a key of the door of my mother, for the Red Cross, and we needed to make a copy of this key and my younger sister and me went to a shop where we thought we get it, and I thought: OK, this is friday, and we have to do our weekend shopping, and hopefully it is not too much for my sister ... well, no, that is not what I thought. I did again this whole picture thing and so there were many inner things going on and I watched them. And then we went there and he did not have such a key and he sent us to another shop. But my sister said "oh, that is great, now we went there, and I anyway had to buy this iron thing". And when we arrived at the second shop (where we then also got the copy of the key) she said "ah, that is great, now I can do that and that." And all the time when we went to another place she was excited because now she can do this shopping or that shopping, and then we said, usually we create that we even met in the same second in a shop (when we do not drive to it together) but now in addition to this time-magic my younger sister and me do everything was not only beneficial but also most efficient.


ANJULI: And we both were so excited. So this was also about that?

ELIAS: Yes. What you are doing is, you are expressing a cooperative energy and an encouraging energy which not merely allows you to (create) what you want but also encourages the other individual to express in the manner that they want and that is enjoyable for them also.

ANJULI: Aha! And so for example when I have other situations when I think I maybe should communicate in the old way although I don’t want this and so I am opposing myself then more situations are created which are around confusion and not understanding each other?

ELIAS: Yes, and less comfortable.

ANJULI: Aha. Because I had two, three examples where I created like that, and ... aha! So I can view the one situations (the first ones I mentioned) and the other situations (the uncomforable ones) and step back again and put them... and view them in this way, as I do, and this get more information and validate myself as to how I can allow myself to interact in this new way for that is beneficial for the others also.


ANJULI: Aha, aha! And then when for example when I had a time when I read ... I interact again a little bit on the internet, not that often, but I am curious on how to do that kind of interaction with this new exploration. And so, when there are long mails I can’t read them. Even if I try and I read the words I can’t ... that does not work, maybe because I again pay attention to the whole picture and then I cannot do those two things together, or is it also about "language" (not german-english, I use this word here how Elias uses it) That for example Opan has a more... like explaining something in more detail, and Oba writes short mails. And the ones of Oba are easier for me as the ones of Opan. (Note: Opan and me have already talked about it. In our private mails it is easier for me, he expresses then differently as with other people where he uses a "language" they understand)

ELIAS: Yes, these also would be examples of differences in how you communicate, and in those differences allowing youself to express in your natural manner but in what capacity you can allowing yourself to engage other individuals in accepting their difference but in a manner of speaking converting that in a manner that is more effective for you.

ANJULI: Aha. And how does this fit into what Mary and me just talked about, the example she had about interactions? And she says she is very confused, she thinks it is also about her being thought-focused, but that is also ... she says she takes words very little and then there is a stop point. I think... ja... It was also about different languages, that she realizes her kind of language and other languages are different and then ... Was this also something like that? What is she...?

ELIAS: Yes! Now, let me express a clarification in association with this subject. As you are aware when I expressed the introduction of this wave I did express that individuals of the thought-focus and political-focus would incorporate more difficulty in this wave than other individuals. Now, I have also expressed that as to somewhat of a capacity or degree the political focused individuals do incorporate some ability to be bridgers. The emotional focused individuals incorporate the greatest capacity (to be bridgers). Not all individuals incorporate this capacity to be bridgers. The reason that I expressed that thought-focused individuals would incorporate more difficulty is that generally speaking they do not incorporate the (same) capacity to be bridgers if at all. Thought focused individuals process information differently. And in the manner that they process information a thought-focused individual can be a bridger in communication conceptually very well. But they do not necessarily incorporate the capacity to be bridgers in relation to language abstractly.

ANJULI: M-hm, ja, I understand.

ELIAS: Emotionally focused individuals process information through feelings and intuition, and in this they do incorporate the capacity to express in language much more abstractly. Thought-focused individuals do not incorporate this capacity. Therefore it would be unrealistic to expect that these individuals could engage an action of being a communications bridger for they do not incorporate this aspect of being abstract in association with language. They can be very absract in association with concepts, but not necessarily in association with language. This is the reason that I also expresed to the emotionally focused individuals that this is an opportunity in this wave to generate a considerable contribution to change in being the bridgers of communication and therefor creating an atmosphere of more harmony in allowing themselves to express being those bridgers. But the one significant factor that I have expressed in relation to this subject and in relation to ... (gap because I turn the tape) .... to be bridging communications that they are aware of themself that they are present with themself and that they are not personalising. For in moving into the personalising it invalidates what they attempt to do. For that colors the communication.

ANJULI: Aha, then this is what I am attempting to do or what I explored for example when there was a time when I was at a little mailinglist about the AND pyramid and another one about the timebridgers (note: I am back on both lists), the one interacting with Leland, Ogean and Allessander, and the other one with Opan and the others, and there was a moment when I felt a little overwhelmed by some mails, some expression differences, and I didn’t know how to communicate myself. And then that started to be frustrating and so I left the lists, and they both, Leland and Opan wrote mails to me, asking what happened and suggesting an interaction, and I couldn’t. I couldn’t interact in the old way by clarifying "I felt like this and this" or "I understand ...", because there was so much, that was... I just couldn’t. There was this whole thing about viewing the entire picture and it was so intricate and there was no way of how to verbalize that. And then I thought, OK, we are anyway good friends, and I have an inner knowing ... they will understand, it will translate, if I just allow myself to put this ... on my inner, as I do with all situations. And we got ...

ELIAS: Yes, I understand, and I am in agreement, but I would also express to you the suggestion, it is not necessary for you to incorporate an explanation. You can in a situation such as you have expressed merely express to the other individuals: in this present moment I cannot express myself. In this present now I am incorporating a difficulty and I cannot express myself. In this there is no explanation necessary. It is an acknowledgement that the other individual has been heared. It is an acknowledgement that there attempt of connection has been made. And that is enough. That you are (?) yes, you have received their connection. You cannot respond in this present time framework, and that is enough.

ANJULI: M-hm, good.

ELIAS: For that does not express any judgment in relation to the other individual. It is not invalidating of the other individual, it is not expressing any personalising with the other individual, and it is expressing an acknowledgement of the reception of the connection. And I will express to you that I have been expressing to many individuals the emphasis of this point of not personalizing. For this is an important (?). I am aware that many individuals want to be participating in being helpful and in being bridgers, but if they engage personalizing in their attempt to do so they will force their own effords and they will create the reverse of what they were atempting to engage.

ANJULI: M-hm! So this expression that I am currently doing, when I step back and am viewing the whole picture, this would be a bridging?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking yes, this would be another avenue of it. For you are allowing yourself to assimilate the entire picture and therefore engaging your periphery and incorporating a wider view of the situation, not merely one aspect of it.

ANJULI: Even if I can’t currently verbalize that very much, just a little bit, some sentences here and there, but I feel that the interaction is there, and that some understand... on the inner we interact much more intensely as before.


ANJULI: And it IS received.

ELIAS: Yes, and as I expressed to you previously, you will become more effective in these (avenues of) communication, but it matters not in this present time framework for you are communicating energetically and you are effecting energetically.

ANJULI: M-hm. And we have another situation. In the evening, I was in bed and was doing my usual energy games that I do before I sleep, like interacting with you and Timothy/Eliantan, am aware of my energy field and sensing that my whole environment is much more as the one my physical, outer senses are perceiving, that there is a much waster environment and I am aware of that, in various layers and all of that, and then there was suddenly a loud, very loud sound, and then the entire physical reality was shifted into another one, another physical reality. There was not my bed any more and the bedroom and the walls, there was something else. And it was not like a blinking subjectively or less solid or an out of body experience into a less solid reality, it was physically solid. There was just this hologram, my solid physical hologram changed into something else. But this something else was something I didn’t know. It was not something like a room and furniture and whatever is familiar. What was that?

ELIAS: I am understanding. Now, I will express to you that you temporarily popped yourself into a different reality, and the reason that you incorporated the loud sound is quite understandable and would be a usual expression to (?) this type of action. For the significance of the sound is to emphasise and to solidify to you that you have actually changed or entered a different reality. This, that sound or a similar sound would occur were you to actually physically pop yourself into a different reality or a probable reality or any otherdimensional reality. What you incorporated was popping yourself into an other-dimensional reality.

ANJULI: Hm. One that I know already? Objectively?

ELIAS: In other focuses you do, in other focuses that belong in that reality you do, but one that you know objectively in your reality, no.

ANJULI: Aha! Not the ones I already cnnected with in this focus.

ELIAS: Correct, and I will (?) this is a different action. This is not a projection, this is not what you term to be an out of body experience. This is an actual momentarily popping out of one reality and popping in to another reality.

ANJULI: Then I guess it must be somehow associated with that reality I popped into: in my attempts to understand what I experienced I thought, maybe that is what the experience would be if I would ... in my session about "being the story", my session with you in which we talked about me being the story, and in this session you said to "be" the entire story would be something completely unknown.


ANJULI: And I associated that experience with that. I thought, OK, this must be when I translate into solidity this unknown of being the story. And now I am wondering if that dimension maybe is exploring in this way of "being the story", whatever that is for them, a story. But ... could you comment on that?

ELIAS: Yes, I wold express that your assessment is correct.

ANJULI: Assessment! Aha! What is the difference between impression and assessment, Elias?

ELIAS: An assessment is an evaluation.


ELIAS: Evaluation is associated with accumulated information and may be related to different information. An impression is a communication.

ANJULI: Ah, OK, Fran wil be interested. (Elias laughs) And then of course greetings from Gottlieb and rom my mother.

ELIAS: I express my appreciation to them and offer my lovingness also.

ANJULI: And my mother says she soon really is very much longing to have a session with you.

ELIAS: Very well, i shall be anticipating of that.

ANJULI: And Gottlieb asks playfully, now I don’t know how that translates in english (laughing): if ... ob er dir schon auf die Nerven geht because he is communicating so much with you. Auf die Nerven gehen, what is that in english? Being... that was playfully meant, that question... I don’t know how that... let’s say, aha, we could practice another language ... Hhhh, Elias!!!!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! Perhaps we can together invent a new language. (Both laugh).

ANJULI: Or like I do with Sandy/Allessander when I say in mails: ooooaaaauuuueeeee, and then he answers: seeeeaallooo! (Both are laughing a lot). We love this so much! And Gotlieb wants to get a validation of how he is processing with his OBE explorations, if he is doing well in the direction of how he is exploring.

ELIAS: In association with what?

ANJULI: His out-of-body experiences, explorations, if the direction he is taking is a progress, is progressing.

ELIAS: I would express that any direction that he (???) is a progress. (Both laugh) And you may offer my encouragement.

ANJULI: OK. Are we already at the end of the session or can I ask another question?

ELIAS: You are completed, my friend.

ANJULI: I am completed. OK, that is good. (Elias laughs) We have another one next week (Note: no, we did not have another one so far ...LOL... So I am still in the process ...)

ELIAS: And I shall greatly be anticipating of that. As always, to you, your mother, my other dear friends that you participate (joyous?) I express tremendous lovingness, and to you may dear friend I express a tremendous encouragement in your new adventure that (???)... (he chuckles)

ANJULI: Thank you very much, Elias, that was again such a fun. I am glad that I now managed to talk with you about ...TOKLAN (I invented a new word here for fun) and about interacting. (Laughs) It is fascinating, cool wave! Good bye, Elias, au revoir.

ELIAS: My friend, au revoir.

ANJULI: Au revoir.