Session 201710231

Session 201710231
“Using the Formula”
“Other Energies and Interconnectedness”
“Imagination, Inspiration and Desire”

Monday, October 23, 2017 (Private/In person)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Brigitt (Camile)

ELIAS: Good morning!

BRIGITT: Good morning, Elias.

ELIAS: (Laughs) And what shall we discuss?

BRIGITT: Well, a few things. I think meander a little bit, see what comes up. But first thing for Vinu: we’d like to know what his focus animal is.

ELIAS: And the impression?

BRIGITT: There’s a lot of impressions. His was a golden retriever, and mine was a coyote, and then after some discussion we figured some sort of bird of prey.

ELIAS: It is a dog, a St. Bernard.

BRIGITT: No! Really. (Elias chuckles and Brigitt laughs) Okay. Wow! That is… Wow! Okay. Nice.

Oh, and a question for my son, if you don’t mind. He’s asking, “I noticed I can generate an expression of satisfaction every time I choose to direct my attention to certain specific visual imageries. I have certain visuals I can utilize that generate this sensation. It lasts very briefly. My question is how can I generate that feeling in relation to what I am engaging and doing within the now?”

ELIAS: (Pause) Simple. Merely move his attention. If he can do that intentionally at other times, then he can easily do that in the present time framework, in the present now, in whatever situation. It is merely a matter of being aware of reminding himself that he can do it in that moment also.

That is the most challenging, is that in many situations, dependent upon what the individual is doing—especially if they are engaging with another individual, but even not—your attention is so automatically fixed on whatever is the outside stimulus that you forget. And you aren’t present enough, you aren’t aware enough—self-aware enough—to remember in the moment that you can do that at will at any time.
Therefore, it is merely a matter of practice, and practicing remembering in the moment that he can do that at any time. Not being so focused on some outside source or so focused in what he is doing that he forgets to be present.

BRIGITT: Okay. Good answer.

So, I was wondering whether it would be more beneficial to talk about the formula or imagination?

ELIAS: Either one.

BRIGITT: (Laughs) Either one would be good?

ELIAS: Or both.

BRIGITT: Or both? Okay. Because sometimes, you know, there’s a time thing happening. (Laughs) Okay, we’ll try for both.

What I was thinking about – we were talking about this – is how would the formula apply to an inanimate object or a situation reciprocally, because there’s obviously no feeling coming back from an object. So, just say instead of dealing with another person and going through the formula, you’re dealing with a vehicle or your house or a bank line-up – not even a bank line-up, because there’s people involved in a group. But something inanimate, right? Something where there’s no consciousness or awareness that can reflect.

ELIAS: It matters not, because everything IS a reflection, and therefore the formula is applicable in any situation, regardless that you are using feelings. It matters not, for even though you are creating the beginning of the formula is what you feel and then what that means, and then what all of it means, when you reverse it, remember: in relation to another individual, the formula is not designed to tell you anything about the other individual, although it can. But it isn’t designed for that.


ELIAS: Therefore, it isn’t a formula for you to understand the other individual or what they are doing or what they are projecting. The whole point in that is that when you reverse it and you remove the personal piece, which is easier to do with a situation or a manifestation because you automatically can assess that there isn’t a personal piece in that—although many individuals include a personal piece in that anyway (Brigitt laughs), that their car is malfunctioning against them—


ELIAS: --but those are the two important factors. When you reverse the equation, it is designed to help you to see what you were projecting and therefore what is being reflected to you, and to help you see more choices rather than only the black and white. Therefore, even if it is a vehicle or a situation, it matters not.

It applies anyway, because the formula in its forward position is you. Whatever you are projecting, you are reflecting. Therefore, reversing it is the evaluation of whatever you are reflecting. And that is important, because most people to this point still are not quite seeing what the reflection is. They don’t understand a reflection. They continue to move in the direction of a reflection is a mirror, and they only think about a mirror when something is considerably bothersome to you.

But you don’t generally look at everything as BEING a reflection. You only look at something in the capacity of being a reflection if it is significantly bothersome to you. Then you are expressing, “What am I reflecting?” But otherwise, you are reflecting in every moment of every day with everything, but you don’t recognize that, for the most part.

Therefore, this is designed to give you a manner in which you can actually begin paying attention to all of those reflections. And the point in paying attention to reflections is to give you more awareness and information about what you are doing, about what type of energy you are projecting. Which in itself, for most individuals, is considerably challenging because of what we discussed, in that most individuals are still thinking, behaving and choosing in relation to what they feel.


ELIAS: And they are still gauging their energy by what they feel, which is very much incorrect.

BRIGITT: Is there influence from other people’s energy, though?

ELIAS: Most definitely.

BRIGITT: So, in the situation when Ann said that she was feeling like—I think the word was incompetent or something, the final word there in the formula—and so you said that she was engaging the group or something? And so, I was trying to figure out what… It wasn’t that the group was thinking that she was incompetent and that she wouldn’t retain that, or maybe the group in general figures we’re never going to get this, and she picked up the energy from the whole group and that influenced her? No?

Okay, see (laughs) I was still confused about that part.

ELIAS: No. Remember: you reflect. You project first. That is the first piece, is you are projecting. Therefore, the reflection is designed to show you what you are projecting. Therefore, it is not that she is picking up on the group and that is influencing her first—no. She is generating the first projection, and then from that, then the group is reflecting back to her, to allow her to see what type of energy she was initially projecting.


ELIAS: It is not that it comes from the outside first and then you project and then you reflect—no. You are initiating. You are generating the first expression, and then it is reflected to you.

Now, yes, other individuals, other energies are influencing. But they are influencing in a manner of you receive those energies and then you configure them, you evaluate them, you assimilate them, and then it is a matter of what you do with them. And in that, yes, you are continuously receiving other energies, but then what are you doing with that?


ELIAS: And that is what’s not a part of this equation, this formula. This formula was specifically offered merely to illustrate to you what you are projecting through the reflection, noticing the reflection, emphasizing that reflective piece as a manner to assess what you are projecting and the removal of that personal piece, and that it ultimately allows you to see more choices than only the black and white, because you can evaluate more effectively because now you know what YOU were projecting, and do you want to project that? Is that valid? Is it correct for you?—all of these different factors. And in that, it gives you the opportunity to see more choices in whatever situation there is.

In relation to other influences, that was not part of the formula. That is another subject in relation to you are continuously receiving other energies, and they are continuously influencing. That piece is somewhat (pause) abstract enough at this point presently that I would say most of you would use that information to confuse yourselves more (Brigitt laughs) and complicate. And I would express that it would merely be another avenue in which you would not yet have the awareness to fully understand that. You are ALWAYS receiving other energies, not only from everything around you, which is the most direct or the most obvious, but also from… every other energy in your world is influencing.


ELIAS: This is the piece that once you become more self-aware and therefore you are more aware of that interconnectedness, that it is very real and that you are experiencing it constantly—you don’t know you are experiencing it constantly yet. When you are self-aware enough that you DO know you are experiencing it continuously, then you will have the awareness to incorporate more information in relation to that subject.

Because I would express to you, this is an example of how it would confuse you. You perceive that whatever you are thinking is your thoughts.

BRIGITT: And I have a question about that! (Laughs) You’re right.

ELIAS: It isn’t.

BRIGITT: Aha! Thank you for answering that.

ELIAS: You perceive that when you have an idea, it is your idea. It isn’t—not singularly. You perceive that whatever you are experiencing is your own experience, singularly—it isn’t. You are continuously being influenced in relation to that interconnectedness. Therefore, even your dreams, your dream imagery is not singularly your own. It is all intertwined, and in that, what you think – are not only your thoughts.

What you FEEL is yours, because feelings are generated by YOUR body consciousness. And you incorporate your own specific meanings for your feelings.

BRIGITT: Right. Yes.

ELIAS: Therefore, what you feel physically and emotionally are your expressions, because it is coming from your body consciousness and it is a signal to you alone about what you yourself are doing. But your thoughts? No. Your communications? No.

BRIGITT: Well, I’ve been listening to some non-duality teachers here and there, on and off, on the web and stuff, and so came across that idea that consciousness exists first and it’s just like one thing, and all the rest of everything is just an outputting or a materialization in this case, or just some sort of… Yeah. We’re all just consciousness basically, right? And so, the idea that thoughts are all, not necessarily shared, but they’re all… They’re not yours, or yours alone.

So, I was thinking yesterday, talking about this, well if thought is a translation and you use thought to translate, what are you translating? We use thought to translate feelings, we use thought to translate imagery or translate everything, so if the thoughts aren’t ours, what are we actually translating? Are we translating…? What? I would think if we use it as a translation mechanism…

ELIAS: Everything.

BRIGITT: Yeah, even if it has nothing to do with anything that we’re actually focused on or interested in or anything like that? It just… it translates—

ELIAS: It is not that they are not your thoughts—they are, but they are not SINGULARLY your thoughts. Therefore, it is partially your thoughts, partially what you are focused on and therefore what you are translating, depending upon what you are paying attention to. But it is not ONLY your thoughts. It is not only the energy from you that is being translated. There are other energies that are intermingled with that that is also being translated.

Your imagination is not singularly your own. Any of your communications, including your senses, are not SINGULARLY your own. They ARE yours, but they are not singularly yours because you ARE interconnected, therefore you are always generating input of other influences, and that is a part of what you are translating with your thought mechanism.

It isn’t that you are engaging other individuals’ thoughts—no. It is that you are mingled with other energies and therefore other information, and your thought mechanism is processing all of that, is translating all of that. Which is also the reason at times that you may incorporate some random thought that you express just popped into your head and you have no idea why.


ELIAS: That is why. Because it isn’t always only you, and at times it may not be much of you at all, because it is dependent upon what you are paying attention to. If your attention is wandering considerably, you are much more likely to be using your thought mechanism to translate other energies that AREN’T yours.

Therefore, in that, the piece that at this point in relation to that subject that would be considerably difficult for most individuals is this non-singular piece which then touches that subject of identity.

BRIGITT: I think I get the non-singular thing. I mean, even though I perceive and think singularly and live singularly and stuff, I understand that non-singular thing.

ELIAS: In concept, yes.

BRIGITT: In concept, yes.

ELIAS: And intellectually. When you understand it experientially, then we will be engaging conversations that are very different, because then it will be a situation in which I can include much more, because all of you will have the capacity to receive that and accept that. As I have expressed, most of you are still incorporating difficulty with the idea of other focuses, and if one individual is Henry VIII, no other individual can be Henry VIII.

BRIGITT: Yeah. I disagree. Yeah. I don’t actually believe that either, because sometimes if I’m watching this show or whatever and I seem to feel into a historical figure, I actually FEEL like that person. Or reading about it, I actually have the feeling that I AM that person. I don’t automatically assume it’s a focus of mine or anything. So, because of that experience, that feeling—

ELIAS: That is the beginnings of that experiential piece of that interconnectedness, yes. And some of you ARE experiencing that, which lends more to a greater understanding of less of that singularity in which you can accept that. But most individuals are still in that direction of considerable singularity. And as I expressed at our group interaction, most individuals are still thinking about themself and their essence as two different things.


ELIAS: They speak about their essence as if it were a separate entity from them, and that is an indicator that that singularity continues to incorporate a very strong hold with most individuals. And they don’t understand that actual interconnectedness, in which all of these factors that they assign separation to are essentially illusions. But when you assign that separation in tremendous strength it becomes your reality, and removing that genuinely does threaten many of their identities.

Even what we were discussing in our group interaction, there will be individuals that that will be too threatening to their identity to genuinely absorb that information.

BRIGITT: Mm-hm. Interesting.

ELIAS: Because there are so many of you that have incorporated constructs to such a degree that they have become a part of individuals’ identities, that they can’t quite yet see that "the reason for" isn’t actually part of you; it is an explanation for what you are choosing, but it isn’t part of you.

BRIGITT: Yeah. And to be aware of that and to remember that and to be present with that, and so…

ELIAS: Constructs are considerably influencing. They are very influencing, every moment of every day. Because everything you do, you do for a reason.

BRIGITT: Right. Yeah.

ELIAS: And in that, there is always an explanation for everything you do and how you do it.

BRIGITT: And everything you experience as well, right? (Pause)

So imagination is a communication as well, right?

ELIAS: It is.

BRIGITT: And it communicates… stuff from other areas of consciousness. It translates into—

ELIAS: It can.

BRIGITT: It translates into what we understand, I guess, in this reality.

ELIAS: Yes. It can also be in RELATION to this reality—in fact, in many situations it is. And in actuality, that piece is for many, many, many individuals almost an obstacle, because they use their imagination in relation to structures that are established in your reality that they know, and they have a very difficult time moving outside of that.

A classic example is if I express to an individual that is asking questions about creating a business, and I express, “Use your imagination and explore,” they almost always immediately move in the direction of imagining a business and then imagining what is entailed in traditionally creating a business. They imagine a mission statement. They imagine money. They imagine a building. Therefore, for many, many, many individuals, their imagination is confined to structures that they are very familiar with and that they already know.

Imagination IS the communication of what is already known, but yes, in many more capacities than only your physical reality. It extends far beyond that. Therefore, it is, in a manner of speaking, the storehouse of all information that exists.

BRIGITT: So, say I was – which I’m not at the moment – starting my own business, and you say, “Use your imagination,” I would do that. I would think, “Okay, first I need a bank loan. I need…” all the practical things that you need to start a business. First of all, I need an idea of what that would be or whatever. What should I do instead, if I was going to…? What would that person starting a business do?

ELIAS: First, it is a matter of using the imagination as an inspiration of what you want to do. If you are starting a business, you are moving in a direction of producing something. It doesn’t have to be a physical manifestation, but you are producing something. And in the production of that something, the intention is to share that something with other individuals for the purpose of exchange.

Now, in that, the first piece is to use your imagination in relation to what you enjoy. What do you enjoy doing? You think about what you enjoy doing, then you expand on that with imagination: how could I express this subject but in a more expansive manner? And therefore, you play with your imagination in expanding that initial subject.

And it doesn’t have to be in practical terms. It doesn’t have to be in practical terms at all initially, because then you will eventually move into a translating, defining direction in which you will translate it into how you could produce that in your physical reality.

But let me express to you, you could begin with—let us say, you genuinely enjoy and love animals. You love being around them, you love interacting with them and engaging them. Therefore, you choose that subject, animals. Then you use your imagination to expand on that. You might be imagining flying turtles or unicorns or some type of animal that doesn’t have a name. And in that, while you are imagining in that capacity, you are also imagining yourself with them. What are you doing with them? How are you interacting with them? What are you expressing?

In a manner of speaking, it is very similar to daydreaming, allowing yourself that richness of the experience of imagination. And it may not only be about the animals and the invented animals, so to speak. It may be also that the environment strikes you, and you are very much paying attention to the environment in your imagination. All of those pieces are significant, and they generate contributions.

Now later, as you are pulling that imagination information into what you think of as a practical application, you might choose certain animals that you are most drawn to that you want to be engaging. But perhaps the environment in your imagination offered you clues in relation to incorporating certain colors in the environment that you will actually engage with these animals. Or it might influence you in a manner, let us say, the environment and the feel of the colors and how you are interacting with the animals in your imagination might translate to, “I want to create soft, pillow-y beds for them. That is my product. That is the production that I want.” That may been influenced by the colors and the feel of the environment that you were imagining: comfortable and soft.

Or it could be that you aren’t necessarily engaging with animals at all. You may be engaging with people ABOUT animals, and helping them in relation to how they can interact with their animals more effectively or more efficiently. And therefore, what you are producing is an interaction, not an actual thing.

But imagination, if used in its fullness, can be tremendously inspiring and can help you to hone in on those subjects that you genuinely are interested in. If you are imagining unicorns, you obviously know that you don’t have unicorns in your physical reality at this present time. Therefore, you are not producing unicorns and selling them. But how can that translate in some other capacity? What does that mean to you, that magical aspect? And how can you translate that? Do you want to translate it into an actual physical form of some type of product that you will produce? Or do you want to generate a different kind of producing of something that isn’t necessarily physical? And how can you move in a direction?

But most individuals will express what you expressed: money, my mission statement, how I engage investors, how I engage the bank, how I approach someone that I will lease a building from. And in that, most individuals become very overwhelmed very quickly because generally speaking, they won’t have everything physically that they perceive they need to begin. Therefore, they are already in a mode of “I can’t do it. I don’t have enough,” or “I have to wait.” Which is incorrect. You don’t have to wait, and you don’t have to have all of those factors from the beginning. You can begin, and you can move in those directions and not have all of those THINGS, and build in that direction, and eventually you will have those things.

BRIGITT: Mm-hm. And they’ll be easier to get as well, right? It won’t be as stressful as most people make it out to be. Interesting.

I don’t think I use my imagination very much or very well. (Laughs) I think that’s (inaudible).

ELIAS: It is merely a matter of practicing with it. And the tremendous part of imagination is that you can use it at anytime, anywhere. And in that, it is fun.

BRIGITT: Yes. I almost think I use imagination more like a visualization, which is a totally different subject, I’m assuming, because in visualization you deliberately intend on visualizing whatever, like a deliberate…

ELIAS: At times. Not always.

BRIGITT: Not always?

ELIAS: No, not always. You can, with a visualization, begin with one small picture, one small subject, and then allow that to grow on its own. It can be very similar to imagination. You can use it in conjunction with imagination, most definitely, for visualizing can enhance what you are imagining because then you can see what you are imagining.

But you are correct. A visualization can be very different from imagination, because it can be very structured. And it can be very precise, although I would express that with most visualizations, it is considerably helpful to include some piece of imagination with it, to enhance it. But that is dependent on the individual.

BRIGITT: Do we use imagination a lot and don’t know it? Or is it part of our… Like we know what we’re thinking, for the most part, from the thoughts that are coming out of our heads, but is imagination there constantly and we’re just not aware that it’s there?

ELIAS: Yes. Yes. Now, does that mean you are using it? Not always. But is it continuously present, a part of you? Yes, definitely. Just as much as you don’t necessarily pay attention to your heartbeat. That doesn’t mean it isn’t beating every moment.


ELIAS: Or that you don’t necessarily pay attention to that your body stores memory, but memory is always available to you. In a very similar manner, imagination is a part of you. You don’t always use it, but it is a fun communication avenue to play with and definitely beneficial, for it automatically helps you to be more open to more of everything.

BRIGITT: That’s always good. What about inspiration? Is inspiration just an idea that singly comes from the blue? Do you know what I mean? Like all those ethers with all the communications that you have through imagination and thought and all the stuff roaming around in consciousness and inspiration is there, too, and it just like (snaps her fingers)?

ELIAS: Inspiration comes from you moving in a particular direction in relation to your individual desire, whether you are aware of it or not. In association with your desire and whatever direction you are moving in at any given point, inspiration comes from you being open to what matches that desire and the direction.

Therefore, inspiration seems to come from the blue, but it is actually a presentment to you BY you that is expressed through being open, through being allowing, that allows for all other energies and directions to coalesce and to filter more specifically, to match what your desire and your direction is. Therefore, you are pulling that information to you, combined with your desire, and that creates inspirations.

BRIGITT: One of these days I’ll figure out what it is that I desire (laughs). I just seem to be roaming through life and picking up little bits and pieces, and inspirations and visualizations and intuitions, and there doesn’t seem to be any structure—

ELIAS: All of that—

BRIGITT: — in that. It’s just…

ELIAS: All of that is a part of your desire.

BRIGITT: Yes. I think because of my intent that would make sense, right? Yeah. I count my little jewels in my cave. (Both laugh) So there you go. It's not very structured.

ELIAS: Desire is also considerably general, but it is somewhat general and specific at the same time. And desire is about movement. It is about being, more than acquiring. Therefore, it is about "what," not "it." It is not about "its." It is about "what:" what you want to be, what you want to express, what you want to create, but not necessarily in relation to creating "its."


ELIAS: Therefore it is more a matter of being—your being—and allowing that to come into fruition or to unfold into blossoming in its genuine expression.

BRIGITT: Which sounds awfully specific.

ELIAS: It IS. It IS specific, but how it is not specific is in the implementation of it, that it can take many, many forms, and not all of those forms you would necessarily think of as being part of your desire, because you always think of desire as being what you want or positive. Which ultimately it is—or not necessarily in black and white a positive or negative—but ultimately it is for your benefit. It is associated with your expansion, your growth. Therefore, it always is to your benefit. But it isn’t always expressed in manners that you would think of as being good.

A hypothetical example: let us say, hypothetically, there is an individual that expresses considerable difficulty with their family, that they have incorporated considerable difficulty and considerable discounting as they were growing up. And the older that they become as they are growing up, the more they are feeling in themselves as if they are black sheep—they don’t fit. And in that, in relation to their being, in a particular time framework their desire may be moving in the direction to, let us say in a manner of speaking, break free of their family, which would allow them to move in their own direction, become their own individual themself without the constraints of their family.

Now, let me express, that individual might—in our hypothetical scenario—they might begin generating behaviors that are very uncomfortable and that create situations in which their family begins to dislike them. They may move in a direction of stealing from them. They may express in untrustworthy manners. And their family begins to move in a direction of “We don’t like this and we don’t accept this, ” and the family may begin pushing them away. And the individual themself is not necessarily merely choosing to leave or move away from the family, but they create situations and behaviors that will influence the family to push them away.

And in that, they may engage some uncomfortable and not wanted experiences in all of that, and may even incorporate some hurtful experiences in all of that, but ultimately they will accomplish what their desire was. It doesn’t necessarily mean that they were accomplishing it in an easy or what you would think of as a good direction, but it did accomplish what their desire was: to move in their own direction, to not be affiliated with their family any longer, and also to separate them from their family without necessarily carrying guilt.

BRIGITT: Yes. That makes sense. Yeah.

ELIAS: Therefore, it did accomplish what they wanted, or what their desire was, but if they were looking merely at the objective imagery without the desire factor, they would likely be expressing to themself, “Why am I doing this? What is wrong with me? Why am I generating these behaviors that I myself don’t agree with? And I am creating situations to cause my family to hate me.” But ten years from then, they may be expressing a considerable gratitude to themself for moving in that direction.

BRIGITT: Right. Yeah.

ELIAS: Therefore, desire is that engine that drives you in directions of being, always in the direction of being more and more genuinely you. It takes many forms, and it can be expressed in manners that seem to be off to the side and not necessarily a direct course, but that all is a matter of your awareness at the time.

BRIGITT: Mm-hm. Okay.

ELIAS: The more aware you are, the more direct your desire can move. The less aware you are, the more indirect it moves.

BRIGITT: Okay. (Laughs) And what with 30-50%, oh boy, this is going to be fun. Will I live long enough to be self-aware?



ELIAS: I would express that at this point all of you are moving tremendously quickly. And therefore, whatever time framework has occurred to reach this point, you don’t require a fraction of that to move forward.

BRIGITT: Is there an extreme amount of energy going on?


BRIGITT: Because I’m getting like little aches and little pains and just…

ELIAS: Tremendous—

BRIGITT: Feelings that… blah, I’m not motivated. Just like—

ELIAS: Tremendous. And it is affecting all of you. There is a tremendous amount of energy—

BRIGITT: What the hell’s going on? (Laughs)

ELIAS: — throughout your world, and your disasters are an objective expression of that, in display. But I would say to you that, in relation to a collective desire, perhaps in your perception it is better to create all of these disasters and this tremendous surge in energy in THAT manner than in an apocalypse.

BRIGITT: No, no kidding! Oh boy. Yeah. (Laughs) So, good. Do you have an idea, this tremendous amount of energy, is this going to go on for a little while? Do you see any abatement?

ELIAS: Not long. But it is considerably intense.

BRIGITT: Yes. The end of the religious wave, right?

ELIAS: Roaring out like a lion.

BRIGITT: Roaring out. (Laughs) Okay. Awesome.

Well, thank you very much, Elias. I guess we should go.

ELIAS: You are very welcome. I shall greatly be anticipating our next meeting.

BRIGITT: Me as well.

ELIAS: And I will be offering my energy to you in encouragement continuously.

BRIGITT: Thank you.

ELIAS: In wondrous lovingness to you, my dear friend, as always, au revoir.

BRIGITT: Au revoir.

(Elias departs after 1 hour 4 minutes)