Session 201710201

Session 201710201
“Feelings Are Not the Gauge”
“Stop Complicating”

Friday, October 20, 2017 (Private/In person)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and John (Rrussell)

ELIAS: Good morning!

JOHN: Good morning.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And what shall we discuss this day?

JOHN: Ah! Well, actually I’ve got a quick question I’ll ask on behalf of Paul, and I have to actually look it up, which is… I’m going to make it yes or no for Paul. (Laughs)

The flashing in his left eye—yes or no—was it other-dimensional communication?


JOHN: Yes. Okay. He got his validation.

Yeah, so last time we talked, it was the interesting point about intuition. And with intuition, your intuition is correct, creating a certain direction. You're no longer creating in that direction, so the intuition is no longer correct in the new situation. You’ve carried over the old intuitive conclusion into the future—

ELIAS: That wasn’t entirely what I was expressing.

JOHN: Okay. But shall I continue?

ELIAS: Yes. You can.

JOHN: Yeah, and then kind of…


JOHN: Okay, because it is a question from that, and that might be a little inaccurate, but it may not invalidate the subsequent question, which is how can I be more aware when no longer creating so that I can choose differently and then…how can I be aware if in a given moment I’m NOT creating in a direction, so I can create IN that direction, right? Or is it a matter of awareness? Like in this example, I didn’t create in that direction. I could’ve created in that direction, but I wasn’t paying attention to my own energy very well. And that’s kind of what’s been happening, or had happened, and maybe is happening now in other circumstances.

Or is it a question of understanding, having… there is a greater awareness of that was not a good direction for me, and it’s more a question of understanding the larger picture rather than forcing a creation in any given direction, if that makes sense.

ELIAS: It would be more the latter. As I was explaining to you previously, your intuition was correct, and you were moving in a direction. And it isn’t that you STOPPED moving in that direction, it is that you may be moving in a direction and you have your attention fixed in one thing, such as one job, therefore one company. Your attention is fixed on that. It doesn’t mean that your intuition has changed or that it is invalid, and it doesn’t mean that your direction has changed.

JOHN: Okay.

ELIAS: It merely can be that you are moving in that direction. You are looking at one possibility. Your attention is fixed on one possibility, and therefore you see that as the whole picture, when in actuality your energy is encompassing a bigger picture and moving in that direction of what you want, such as a job, but perhaps is moving beyond that particular job and moving in the direction of a different job that is available or is coming available, and your energy has projected out, is seeking that out. Even if you don’t objectively know about it yet, that doesn’t mean that you don’t know about it energetically, that you haven’t been moving in that direction and seeking it out energetically anyway.

JOHN: But how do I express myself without objective validation? That’s literally one question, right? Because I don’t necessarily have objective validation of it on any given day. I could wake up in the morning and feel like my energy’s great and any direction is going to work if my energy’s relaxed and good, and maybe I just decide to… Maybe my energy is a little bit tense in the morning, but then I lower it and do some yoga, I'll plug in my guitar and play, and read something. In that, am I actually focusing my attention in a direction that is not beneficial, in that I should be focusing more of my attention in an objective manner that’s in a way related to an actual job, which is probably not going to be the job of jamming in my own apartment on my guitar?

Or is it a matter of I am spending too much of my time projecting futurely or projecting into different directions that have nothing to do with what I seem to want, which may not be what I desire? In which case, I’m headed for a not-good situation, which is working. (Laughs) Is my imagination being used in the wrong direction? Or is that intuition rather than imagination, or is it projecting, which is not even…? I don’t know what I'm doing.

ELIAS: You are complicating it tremendously.

JOHN: (Laughs) I do that.

ELIAS: I am aware.

JOHN: Okay.

ELIAS: This is tremendous complication. It isn’t that difficult. It isn’t that complicated. You are likely aware of some of what I have been expressing with other individuals that has been shared.

JOHN: Yeah.

ELIAS: I continue to emphasize that first of all, your feelings are not an indicator of your energy. They can coincide with your energy, but they aren’t an indicator of what your energy is doing.

You can feel terrible, and your energy can be being productive. You can feel very good, and you can be projecting an energy in a direction that you don’t want. Therefore, your feelings are not the gauge.

JOHN: All right. Sometimes I don’t know, is this the feeling or is this an intuition or is this a feeling that’s arisen out of an imagination, or…

ELIAS: I am understanding. And all of that is complicating also.

JOHN: Okay. All right.

ELIAS: Because the simplicity of it is paying to attention to what you are doing, and what is your motivation in doing it. You expressed you may be playing your guitar.

JOHN: Yeah. There are multiple motivations there, right? So, one motivation might be pure expression, creative expression, or intellectual interest. Maybe I’m like, “Oo, let’s do something different, like in a different way.” It could be—

ELIAS: Both of those would be—

JOHN: — calming my energy. It could be, “Gosh, I just don’t want to think about this email now, I’m just going to go—"

ELIAS: Now; those are examples. Interest in creative expression, yes. Intellectual interest, yes. Even to a degree, calming your energy, yes. Those are all motivations that move in harmony with what you are doing in relation to seeking a job. They all move in the same direction.

Avoiding or “I don’t want to think about this” or “I don’t want to do that”—those are motivations that are not in harmony.

JOHN: Do I do that a lot, or have I been catching myself when I do that?

ELIAS: Excellent!

JOHN: Have I? Have I been?

ELIAS: I would express to a degree, yes.

JOHN: I have. Okay.

ELIAS: What I would say to you is stop thinking so much. I know that is difficult.

JOHN: And I don’t even know when I’m thinking sometimes, analyzing—

ELIAS: I’m not telling you to stop thinking at all. I am merely expressing when you begin generating all these questions to yourself, then stop. When you have multiple questions: “What is my energy doing? What am I feeling? What am I doing wrong? What am I doing right? Is this the right thing for me to do? Is this in harmony? Is that in harmony?” When you are asking yourself multiple questions, that is an excellent time to stop.

JOHN: Okay. Okay.

ELIAS: And then center yourself. It is not that complicated. It is a matter of merely paying attention to what you are doing and what motivates what you are doing. You likely are privy to the conversation about the ice cubes, the ice trays. Another individual noticed pulling the ice tray out of the freezer.

JOHN: Right. Yes.

ELIAS: And in that, not filling it up. And momentarily stopping and recognizing. Now—

JOHN: There’s no time—was it there was no time to fill it? I’m confusing. But yes, I remember. The ice tray test. Yes.

ELIAS: Now; in that, even for that individual it incorporated much more time to EXPLAIN what the process was. The actual process only incorporates one to two seconds for the individual to pull out the ice tray, evaluate “Why am I putting it back?”

JOHN: Yeah.

ELIAS: The words incorporate more time than your actual processing of a situation.

JOHN: I can understand that. I mean, in the context of any craft or even playing guitar, it’s developing your habits, so that you’re… But you’re saying that I do catch myself?

ELIAS: At times.

JOHN: I do at times?

ELIAS: At times.

JOHN: Okay.

ELIAS: What I am expressing is your question is stemming from the beginning of the intuition: “I don’t know what is my intuition, what is my imagination. What am I doing? Is my intuition correct? I am moving in a direction. If it doesn’t pan in the manner that I expect, then what does that mean? Is my intuition wrong?” No.

That is what I am expressing to you, that that doesn’t mean that you changed directions. It doesn’t mean that your intuition was incorrect or that your intuition changed. You can continue to be moving in that same direction with the same subject, but your energy is projecting and it is moving in and out of different subjects, different manifestations, seeking out which fits, which is the best fit.

JOHN: Okay.

ELIAS: In that, where you become confused, or you become distracted and derailed, is that you have your attention fixed on one particular thing: “I am looking for a job. I connected with this one company. Now my attention is fixed on this company. I am engaging interviews, I am engaging interaction with them, it seems to be moving well, and my attention is fixed only on this.” And then it seems they didn’t choose you. No. It isn’t—

JOHN: Right. But I’m not even aware of not choosing them. I’m not…

ELIAS: But that is part of the point, because it is a matter of you altering your perception in that capacity. As I expressed to you a time framework ago, you are choosing.

JOHN: Yeah. Okay. I’m choosing them.

ELIAS: They aren’t choosing you or rejecting you. You are choosing them or not.

JOHN: Yeah. Oh yeah.

ELIAS: Therefore, that is the first point. Then from that point, as you move in a direction, you are expressing, “But I am not getting any outside validation.” Yes, you are.

JOHN: I am? In what manner?

ELIAS: How many interviews did you have?

JOHN: I’ve had recently? A couple, in the last month.

ELIAS: How many interactions did you have with that company?

JOHN: Oh, I had quite a lot. I mean, six—actual in-person interviews and then some conversations.


JOHN: Yeah.

ELIAS: That’s six times that you had outside validation.

JOHN: Right.

ELIAS: Each time they contacted you, that was an outside validation. Therefore, you ARE giving yourself validation.

JOHN: And that was in September, and now it’s October, right? But do I have the same…?

ELIAS: Every time you are called for an interview is a validation. Every step you engage is a validation. You are perceiving it as not being, therefore, you aren’t crediting yourself that that IS a validation, that IS an accomplishment. You are looking only to the end result as being the validation and the accomplishment, rather than through the process there are many validations and accomplishments.

JOHN: Yeah. Okay.

ELIAS: But you aren’t crediting yourself with those.

JOHN: No. No.

ELIAS: Therefore, the statement “Where is my validation? I don’t have any outside validations—"

JOHN: It is false.

ELIAS: It IS false.

JOHN: Okay. All right. I mean, you’ve got… It’s just a half an hour session. That means we’ll probably be talking in a couple of weeks anyway, in my regular monthly session. But three things. I can probably roll it all into one.

There’s the question of timing (laughs). I can’t subsist forever not working and just having fun and doing what I do. I mean, I have a responsibility core belief, and so I’m a responsible person. But at the same time, I can’t do this forever. Is an option of taking on now contractual work, which I feel could actually distract me in my attention, or maybe not? So, there’s that. It’s more of a tactical, what do I—it's more of a larger picture.

Yeah. I’m kind of worried about a gotcha. Because we were talking about implicitly, or maybe explicitly, this sort of “job,” quote-unquote, which I consider a detail. You’d probably agree with, right? It’s full-time. It’s permanent. It’s intellectual. It’s management related. It’s the kind of job that I’m aiming for. But is there a…? Am I missing that boat? Is there a gotcha somewhere along the way where actually my actual desire is not that want, and my actual desire is just like, I don’t know, working in Starbucks and moving to Nebraska.


JOHN: And I don’t have… How do I even trust my desire? Am I actually… is that the right direction? Is that the direction for me that's matching with my desire? And is that the right want, or the right… or am I moving towards a gotcha?

And then, is there a tactical component? Because I am subject to, essentially, whatever pops up in my inbox, in terms of “That looks like it could be a match. Let me look at it,” without any other really… direction.

Those are all very tactical things. Those are the three tactical things: subsistence, the gotcha, making sure my desire is what I think it is along with my want, and then literally the tactical thing of just sitting and waiting for something to hit my inbox. I feel like I’ve exhausted a lot of that networking and other sources.

ELIAS: (Pause, then slowly and calmly) First of all, relax.


ELIAS: That doesn’t mean don’t do anything.

JOHN: (Laughs) Okay.

ELIAS: It means relax. Stop agitating your energy and generating so much—

JOHN: It makes me feel important, but I’m not, right?

ELIAS: That is an excellent direction to create some physical manifestation. It is generating—

JOHN: I’m not, right?


JOHN: (Laughs) Okay. Because I feel good.

ELIAS: Not yet, but you could. In generating that continuous tension, your body reacts to that. Therefore, that is the first piece: relax.

JOHN: All right.

ELIAS: Also, I would express that your intention is in alignment with your desire, with your guidelines. Therefore, that is not a question.

JOHN: It’s not.


JOHN: It won’t be a question in two weeks from now?


JOHN: No? Okay. I can’t screw that up? (Laughs)


JOHN: Unless… Okay.

ELIAS: Your direction, what you want in relation to a particular job, is in alignment, yes.

JOHN: Okay, fine.

ELIAS: Now; therefore you can set that aside and stop questioning that. It IS fulfilling that guideline of responsibility.

I would express that you mentioned contractual work, and that is a possibility for the interim. What I would say to you about that: that is not merely a distraction. That may be in actuality a very effective direction for you, because it would allow you to focus yourself.

JOHN: Okay.

ELIAS: If you are busy, focused, in a direction that is in alignment with what you want, it helps you to continue or to maintain your energy in a consistent manner in that direction, rather than merely distracting yourself with playing the guitar or playing games or whatever you choose to do. What you are doing in those instances is attempting to busy yourself.

JOHN: Yeah. Right.

ELIAS: You are an individual that functions well in a particular structure. Moving in a direction of attempting to entirely structure yourself is generally less successful.

JOHN: Yeah. I do like some outside structure, right? To provide…

ELIAS: Yes. Therefore, moving in a direction of temporary jobs, contractual jobs, those are temporary, and in that, you know that. But it does provide that factor of structure, which helps you to focus more effectively rather than being over here and over here and over here—

JOHN: And here and there and…


JOHN: (Greets Ann and invites her to come in)

So, it’s not a matter of… that’s a tactical question, right? So, there’s timing. We talked about timing. So, from a tactical point of view, I don’t want to go back in my private equity consultancy. I don’t want to go back there, because I just sort of… And maybe I’m unfairly cutting off Paul—


JOHN: — and those guys, right?

ELIAS: What did I express to you? When you begin asking yourself that many questions, stop.

JOHN: This was too many questions? (Laughs) All right. But it’s still a tactical question, right? So, it’s… I’m still beholden to what comes through my inbox, right?

ELIAS: (Quietly) Which brings us back to the first point: they are not choosing you; you are choosing them.

JOHN: Yeah.

ELIAS: Which is a matter of the energy you are projecting out. And how do you know that? You know that because of what you are doing, what you are paying attention to and what you are actually doing.

JOHN: (Sighs) I’m still a little…

ELIAS: Which includes everything you do within your day. Think about the ice cubes. It does not matter. Let me express to you in this manner: I will express to you in the same manner that I did previously with another individual. How many times do you visit your kitchen within one day?

JOHN: Several times.

ELIAS: Several, meaning…?

JOHN: Tons.

ELIAS: A guess.

JOHN: Maybe a few times an hour, times ten, maybe fifty times.

ELIAS: This is an excellent example. Your kitchen is one of the most visited rooms in your home.

JOHN: Yep.

ELIAS: It is for everyone.

JOHN: Interesting.

ELIAS: Every time you move into your kitchen, there is the same motivation: you want something. You are looking for something. Every time you move into your kitchen, even if your intention is to go into your kitchen and wash your dishes or put them away or wash your floor—

JOHN: I’m looking for an answer. It’s like my contemplation room.

ELIAS: You are looking for something. It matters not what it is. The point is, that room you visit more times per day, and it provides an excellent example of what I have been expressing in relation to how important it is in paying attention to what you are doing in all those actions that you don’t think about.

JOHN: Okay. All right.

ELIAS: Because, let us say you visit your kitchen thirty times in a day. That is a potential for thirty times a day reinforcing an energy that is moving in a direction that you don’t want. If every time you visit your kitchen you look around your kitchen and you are assessing that what you want isn’t there, or there isn’t enough of what is there, or there is something but it isn’t quite what you want, all of that is reinforcing this energy over and over and over, thirty times a day. You don’t pay any attention to that.

JOHN: No. No. But I can.

ELIAS: But the point is, then when you feel good and suddenly something isn’t moving in the direction that you want it to, or you are generating some experience that you aren’t happy with, you are saying to yourself, “But I felt good! Why did that happen?”

JOHN: Right. Right.

ELIAS: Why did that happen? Because of that thirty times a day that you are visiting your kitchen. This is merely a hypothetical example.

JOHN: I have to go. But on a scale of… One question. I was going to ask it, but… well, more than one question. So my ice box for me is my kitchen? Or is there something else that I do that’s even more so than going into my kitchen? Or is that a good place for me to… is that my biggest…?

ELIAS: (Quietly) No. You missed the point. That was merely an example of something you can see that you do many times a day. It doesn’t matter what it is that you are doing. I am not expressing that your kitchen is the hole from hell and that—

JOHN: No, it’s actually very neat.

ELIAS: — all of your problems stem from walking into your kitchen—no. What I am expressing to you is an example of anything that you would do within a day that is repeated many times that you don’t pay attention to, that you don’t see.

JOHN: So, my private equity consultancy guys, I don’t want to contact them. And so, that’s me choosing I don’t want to contact them and that’s something I can do.


JOHN: And on a scale of 0 to 100, with 100% being 100% efficient in my process, what would be my percentage? I heard last night you don’t like percentages anymore. (Both laugh) Nonetheless, I’m going to ask for a percentage.

ELIAS: Interesting. You hear the percentage, but you can’t remember the ice cubes. And the ice cubes were more important. (Chuckles)

A percentage of how much you are accomplishing? Or how much you are in the direction that you want to be in?

JOHN: Two. Both.

ELIAS: I would express that they are the same. I would say at this point, (pause) 75%.

JOHN: Pretty fairly efficiently.

ELIAS: I would agree.

JOHN: Fairly efficiently.

ELIAS: I would express that that 25% is all those questions.

JOHN: Okay. So, I’m not creating some dire straits or a gotcha circumstance?


JOHN: All right. And a final question. Is there anything tactically that I… I was just thinking last night. I mean, it’s just like… One thing I notice is I’m not very good at telling a story. I sort of suck at telling jokes. Or there’s some tactical things. There’s certain… and we talked about constructs, right? There's professional demeanor, which I’m just naturally sort of professional. It’s like the responsibility core thing. But I don’t necessarily carry that sort of "you're supposed to put your (inaudible) like this, and put your…" I don’t do that sort of thing. And I wonder to a degree, some of those small, tactical things matter at all? Like when we were talking about location before, you pointed out there were some very specific things in my location that don’t work in my favor. So, I wonder if that applies in this scenario quite as much, or not?


JOHN: No, it doesn’t. Okay. Good. All right. We’ll talk in a couple of weeks.

ELIAS: Soon. (Chuckles)

JOHN: With good news? (Ann laughs in background)

ELIAS: That would be dependent on you, wouldn’t it?

JOHN: (Resignedly) I guess. (Ann and Elias laugh)

ELIAS: Very well.

JOHN: All right.

ELIAS: I shall greatly be anticipating that. What I would say to you is genuinely attempt to listen tomorrow.

JOHN: (Laughs) Okay.

ANN: Ooooh. Genuinely.

JOHN: All right. Gonna get a front row seat.

ELIAS: Without questioning. (All laugh)

ANN: He is agreeable to that.

ELIAS: Very well. In wondrous lovingness to you, my friend, as always. Au revoir.

JOHN: Au revoir.

(Elias departs after 35 minutes)