Session 201803181

Session 20180318-1
“Main Subject: Challenges”
“Time Travel”
“Trusting Self, Not Doubting”
“Regretting Past Choices”
“Borledim Energy”
“The Contribution of Cetaceans”
“Waves Are Challenges”

“…if you have moments in which you can’t trust yourself or you are doubting yourself, turn your attention to something that you believe you CAN trust. It doesn’t matter what it is.”

"Anything that you regret is a weed that chokes you."

Sunday, March 18, 2018 (Group/Webinar)

Participants: Mary (Michael), Barb, Brigitt (Camile), Deane (Leland), Debbie (Tamarra), Fatma, Jeff (Galina), John (Rrussell), Ken, Lynda (Ruther), Paul (Paneus), Phillip (Paetre), Pilar, Tammy (Vallia), Todd, Val (Atticus) and Wendy (Myiisha)

ELIAS: Good day!

GROUP: Good day!

ELIAS: This day we shall engage questions again, as we did in our former meeting. And I would express that perhaps the questions can be directed in relation to what do you assess is the most challenging action or subject for you at this time. What appears to be the most difficult or the most challenging expression or direction or subject for each of you at this present time framework?

And I would express that the individuals that did not have the opportunity to ask questions in our previous group interaction begin first.

PAUL: Hey, Elias! I would say time travel is my current hurdle I’m trying to overcome, to answer your question.

ELIAS: Very well. And what would you express is the most challenging aspect of that?

PAUL: Finding a portal at Hawking Hills that’s operational, because you mentioned last time that it was currently being blocked.

ELIAS: Now; in this, have you explored the action of engaging this without a portal?

PAUL: Only in my dream state, not in my waking state.

ELIAS: That is a beginning. This may be an avenue that you might attempt, and in that, you aren’t placing yourself in a position in which you are waiting for individuals that are in a future time framework, and you aren’t searching for a portal either.

In this, I would express that you can do this yourself without having to engage a portal. You could begin in expressing that intention and then generating a meditation that is geared specifically for that action. In that, you aren’t subject to any other variables except yourself, in that you are directing the action and you don’t have to be participating with any other method.

PAUL: Okay. Would that be… Final aspect: would that be a physical transmission or time travel, or would that be only a projection of energy?

ELIAS: What I would say is you can do a physical projection of time travel. You might actually be more successful doing a projection first and then moving in the direction of an actual physical transportation. The reason that I express that is because if you are successful in generating a projection through time, and you actually can project to the point in which you can manipulate in that other time framework, that may also build your confidence in actually projecting physically into a different time framework.

PAUL: Thanks, Elias.

ELIAS: You are welcome. That may be more successful and easier for you. I know this is a subject that you are very interested in and that you have been engaging for a considerable time framework. Therefore, rather than using these other methods, which I acknowledge seems logical, but it is an extra step, and you can do this without those extra steps.

PAUL: Wow, and cool!

ELIAS: (Laughs) And I shall offer my energy to you in aid, to bolster that energy, in a manner of speaking.

PAUL: Thanks, Elias.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.

PILAR: Hello?


PILAR: Can you hear me?


PILAR: Okay, great. I have a big challenge. I think that the biggest challenge I’m facing… This is my first time. I’m a little bit anxious. The biggest challenge has to do with work, with feeling that my work is in line with my intent and that I’m working like a cohesive journey somehow. I have now been choosing a career path that I think is getting me there, to a point where I feel what I’m doing for my job has to do with what I like, but I’m now in a point of my life looking for a house, I’m living in a new city, everything’s new and it’s very exciting, but I feel a little fear all the time that maybe the leap is too long and that maybe what I’m choosing is not in line with my intent.

ELIAS: Why would you express that it isn’t in alignment with your intent?

PILAR: I don’t know. I have a long history of doubting myself. I’ve been diagnosed with mental illness, and there’s one transcript that I like a lot when you talked to a girl that has the same diagnosis that I do. And I’ve been working for a long time to feel like in my own scheme somehow, that I know I’m not seeing… I think I’m very cool. (Laughs) I think I’m amazing. I really do feel it, but when I have to deal with the society things, I get a little bit lost. I think that maybe I have too many focuses like in other dimensions and few here. I don’t know, I feel like a little bit lost sometimes with these things. So, I feel fear to take these chances.

ELIAS: Are you enjoying the job that you have?

PILAR: The thing is I currently have no job. I’m working independently. I want to do… I’m a therapist. I’m a psychologist, but I don’t like psychology as it is. I like to work with energies. I work with my own energy and with other people’s energies. And I like art, so I do art as well. And I read the Tarot. I have an Our Animal Tarot that has to do with animals. I feel I’m Milumet belonging, but I don’t know, because I love nature now. And I’m looking forward to working in these two areas. Somehow I’ll be like a therapist, an alternative therapist, and on the other hand I can do this art I love to do as an expression of myself. And I do enjoy it, but it’s not like I’m working for anybody. I’ve never liked to be working for anybody, so that makes me feel I may be aligned with Sumari. I don’t know. But I’m always being like this not-conforming spirit. I don’t know how to fit in somehow. I feel like I’m getting there, but I’m still doubtful somehow.

ELIAS: Now; in this, you are looking to generate your own practice?


ELIAS: And you express that you are in a new location. Where are you located presently?

PILAR: I'm south of Chile, in Puerto Varas.

ELIAS: And are you—

PILAR: It’s a very beautiful lake.

ELIAS: Are you comfortable there?

PILAR: I love lakes and mountains, and I love nature. Cities have always been a little bit challenging for me somehow, but these southern cities are a little bit lost, and I think here I can combine having people nearby to work with, because I feel like working with people is very important for me. And then I have nature nearby, which is like amazing volcanoes and mountains and lakes, which I love. So, yes. But I’m new here, so I’m not sure either. I do like it a lot.

ELIAS: Very well. Now, in that, what I would say to you is you could actually combine the art with the therapy. And you could do both and have your clients do both. And in that, you can incorporate that creativity. And as you are intuitive and you engage Tarot, that gives you another advantage in relation to incorporating art into your therapy, because you have the ability to tap into the energy of what another individual might create artistically and therefore generate somewhat of a reading from that in relation to your client.

PILAR: I’m sorry. I got an interference.

ELIAS: What I would express to you is that this may be an exciting new avenue for you in which you could incorporate both art AND the therapy, and you could engage that with your clients and have your clients be engaging in artistic expressions during their therapy session. And as you have this ability in relation to the Tarot, that would give you an advantage in allowing you to tap into the energy of whatever the other individual is creating in an artistic expression.

And in that, you can combine all three of these talents that you express, all three of these abilities together in one practice, which would allow you to deviate from the traditional practice of therapy but would continue to allow you to move in a direction more creatively in engaging clients and aiding in that healing process with them.

Now, what I would express to you is it is important for you to practice reminding yourself this is a new adventure. And adventures are unfamiliar, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that they are scary. Therefore, it is a matter of practicing reminding yourself to trust yourself, to trust your ability in listening to your intuition, and you will draw clients to yourself in a new capacity in which you can be incorporating all three of these expressions in your own design. I would express that that is very creative.

PILAR: Thank you. That is very helpful. You’re right. It’s unfamiliar, and that does not mean that it’s scary.

ELIAS: Correct.

PILAR: I think you—

ELIAS: What is scary is when you are doubting yourself and when you aren’t trusting yourself. And in this, let me express to you, if you have moments in which you can’t trust yourself or you are doubting yourself, turn your attention to something that you believe you CAN trust. It doesn’t matter what it is. It literally is irrelevant what it is that you believe you can trust. It could be the universe, it could be an angel, it could be anything, because it is only temporary. And in that, it aids you in building your own confidence.

And the more you can express that trust in anything, that will help you learn to trust yourself that you WILL be successful and that you CAN express all of this creativity and this intuitive aspect of yourself. And in that, you can also be helpful to other individuals that perhaps the traditional methods of psychology are not being very successful with them.

PILAR: It sounds amazing. It would be very cool to achieve that.

ELIAS: And you can.

PILAR: Thank you.

ELIAS: I would express that you are amazing and you can accomplish it. (Chuckles)

PILAR: Thank you. And I wanted to maybe in a spirit of trusting myself, telling you what my intuition is about my family belonging and all that, and maybe you can confirm it?

ELIAS: Excellent! Yes.

PILAR: Okay. I believe I am Milumet belonging, Sumari aligned, soft oriented, politically focused…and I don’t know. I would love to know my animals because I love animals, but I think dragon. That’s not an animal that lives in this dimension. I don’t know.

ELIAS: It matters not. (Pilar laughs) I would express that you are correct thus far.

PILAR: Even with the animal?


PILAR: Oh, that’s so cool. (Laughs) I love dragons. But that is my focus animal or my essence animal?

ELIAS: Essence.

PILAR: And focus? Dragonfly or something like that?

ELIAS: I would express that the focus animal is a reptile. It is what is commonly recognized as a bearded dragon.

PILAR: Oooh, I love them. And finally, the color is violet maybe?

ELIAS: Correct.

PILAR: Oh, that’s so cool. Thank you so much.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.

PILAR: Thank you.

TODD: Elias?


TODD: Hi. Thank you in advance. I continue to lift the veil in my vocation. I’m creating Mystery Schools International, and we’re ready to launch. I’m a little nervous. My enthusiasm is starting to wane. I’m looking for confirmation on how this is to successfully unfold.

ELIAS: What is your vision?

TODD: There is two of us. We have devoted the last four years to this process.

ELIAS: And what is your vision?

TODD: Well, we’ve created Mystery Schools International as a nonprofit organization, so it’s an umbrella organization. We created an alchemical café. We’re taking the Mystery Schools of (inaudible) template and bringing it forward. So we created an alchemical café called Courtyard Café, like the courtyards of the mystery schools of ancient Egypt. We have a wellness center, strictly wellness, and now we’re launching our online learning platform. It’s a social learning platform called Esoteric U.

So what we’re going to do is we want to bring instructors on from the esoteric and then bring on students from the other aspects. So we’re going to bring it all to one place online. So it’s going to be like a social learning platform, kind of like Facebook but with a college on top of it.

ELIAS: Excellent! That is very creative. And—

TODD: Thanks. My question is, am I making sound decisions for success? It’s getting to the point of needing help in all aspects of the launch. We are just shy of being out of funds. We are a nonprofit organization. Do you have any recommendation on how we can help ourselves?

ELIAS: This is very much a matter of perception and what influences perception. In this, what I would say to you is begin genuinely noticing and watching what you are paying attention to. And what that means is, when you are thinking about doubts or when you are thinking about not enough money or when you are thinking about what if individuals aren’t interested or how will we acquire the necessary instructors or how will we generate the students, when you are moving in all of those doubts—

TODD: Yeah.

ELIAS: — that is what you notice, and you stop. You pause. You acknowledge them. You don’t merely dismiss them; you acknowledge them, but once you acknowledge it, then you choose differently, remembering YOU are directing.

This is YOUR reality. It isn’t dependent on other individuals. It is only dependent on you. And in that, when you have a doubt in these capacities – which is natural, you will have doubts. BUT you also have choices. In this, it is succumbing to the doubts and those feelings that accompany them that move you in directions that are counterproductive and that you don’t want, and that then create obstacles for you.

Therefore, it is a matter of noticing: “What am I paying attention to?”

TODD: Okay.

ELIAS: When you are paying attention to thinking, thinking, thinking about anything that can go wrong or that isn’t quite up to standard or isn’t quite what you want or isn’t moving in the direction that you expect – any of those expressions – you note them by expressing, “I recognize I am thinking about that again.”

TODD: Yes.

ELIAS: And then you pause: “I am thinking about that again. Very well. I have choices. What are my choices in this moment?” Not “How can I make the grand picture appear in this moment?” but rather, remembering everything you do now in the present shapes the future. Therefore, what you do now is very important.

And in that, what you don’t want to be doing now is doubting yourself and questioning and focusing on what is not enough, but rather countering that and generating intentional choices. Therefore, when you notice that you are expressing in those doubts, those questions, that "not enough" direction, then you pause. You express that acknowledgment to yourself: “I'm doing it again.” And you choose differently.

And remember: all those mundane actions that you think are insignificant and small, they occupy most of your time and energy. Therefore, accumulative[ly] they are very important because they help move you in the direction that you want.

You are expressing in the direction of your desire. You WILL follow it. You WILL express that. You WILL be successful in that. It is not a matter of whether you will or you won’t. It is a matter of when. It is a matter of will you do it sooner or will you do it later, but you will do it.

TODD: Nice.

ELIAS: Because it IS your desire. Therefore, how you change that to be sooner rather than later, how you change that to be more direct rather than moving through the labyrinth to accomplish your desire, is you begin diligently paying attention to what you are doing now and intentionally expressing in the direction of satisfaction and that it is enough, and that you ARE expressing your passion and your desire. And that means in everything.

Therefore, when you are doubting, or when you are noticing that thinking which is consuming time with no yield, it merely consumes time—therefore when you are doing that and you notice it, do something different intentionally that is in harmony with success, and that is in harmony with what you are doing.

Therefore, in relation to your vision and your desire, when you are noticing that thinking, when you are noticing that feeling of uneasiness and doubt and anxiousness, go to a café and offer to purchase a coffee for a stranger. Because that is an action that is in alignment with your vision and with your passion and your desire. Do something intentional that is in alignment with your vision, that is in alignment and harmony with your desire.

In that, it doesn’t have to be something lengthy. It doesn’t have to be something grand. It can be a very small action. Or DON’T purchase a coffee for another individual, a stranger. Engage a stranger and smile at them. Express in harmony with your desire and your vision. And notice when you aren’t in harmony with your desire and your vision. Notice when anything isn’t enough. It doesn’t matter what it is. It can be in your own home, that there is not enough coffee.

TODD: Right. I remember that quote. Yeah.

ELIAS: Or it can be you are engaging a shower and there is not enough hot water. It doesn’t matter what it is. What matters is what you are paying attention to and being aware of being intentional and moving in that direction of expressing that harmony with your vision and your desire, because that will move you more directly.

Trust yourself. You will do it, regardless. You will be successful either way. It is merely a matter of whether you are successful in a satisfactory time framework to yourself or whether you wait. You don’t have to wait. It is a matter of trusting. You are already doing it! Allow it to unfold.

TODD: Thank you.

ELIAS: Don’t push.

TODD: Thank you. One more question. Who’s the most instrumental in giving us support from your side of the veil?

ELIAS: Ah! (Laughs) I would say there are several. I would say that there are some within this energy exchange that are definitely being supportive, myself included. (Chuckles) I would express that one that is definitely generating a considerable amount of support and energy is that essence of Lazour, that is not very much paid attention to or recognized but does generate a very strong supportive energy.

TODD: I’ve been told prior in a session that I have a panel that is overlooking my work, The Panel of Collective Beings of Light.

ELIAS: What I would say is there are many words or many different types of terminology that individuals may use. The base of it all is that there are several, a group of essences that are definitely being supportive and lending energy.

And I would also express that you are drawing energy from other focuses of each of you.

TODD: Correct. I agree. I remember that from your writings. From my higher self I have, from what I understand, I think… There’s another aspect, not my higher self but another aspect of myself that is in ancient Egypt, is a high priest in a mystery temple?


TODD: Oh my god.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) You incorporate more than one focus in that type of role.

TODD: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend.

TODD: Thank you.


ELIAS: My, my. All of you are so content?

PAUL: Hey, Elias, I’ve got a question since no one’s jumping up. Is the current discovery of an aurora called Steve indicating a certain symbolism or imagery associated with this movement in the Shift?

ELIAS: Indirectly, not directly. But I would express that ALL the new incorporations of expressions in your reality at this time are expressions of this Shift, directly or indirectly.

PAUL: (Laughs) Yeah, I suppose. I’m so surprised that some things like Putin getting re-elected and certain other leaders that we consider anti-Shift, they’re still around.

ELIAS: Ah! But this is very purposeful, my friend. For it is generating a considerable amount of agitation and dissatisfaction. And when people are agitated and dissatisfied, they are more likely to implement change.

PAUL: Nice.

ELIAS: When people are comfortable and aren’t being challenged, they are less likely to implement change. Therefore, these individuals that you dislike in positions in government are not incidentally there. They are there playing a role as catalysts.

PAUL: I agree with that.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Now; I challenge is not to oppose them but to move in the direction of change. Because opposing them distracts your energy and your focus, because they aren’t the focus. They aren’t the subject. They are merely a catalyst. And in that, I would express that what is important is not these individuals or what they are doing necessarily or not doing. It is what all of YOU are doing or not doing in relation to changing what you aren’t satisfied with.

PAUL: Definitely makes sense.

ELIAS: It is very easy for individuals to remain in their homes in a comfortable position and to complain about what they don’t like and what other individuals aren’t doing, or what other individuals are doing in a manner that they don’t like, but they don’t do anything themselves. It is easy to do that. It is easy to complain. But you can complain and complain and not be implementing any action to change. And the more you complain, the more you lend energy to the very expressions that you are complaining about.

PAUL: Hey, Elias. Somebody just sent me a question to ask you about if you could comment on a 2020 social unrest that’s being predicted.

ELIAS: What I would say to you is once again, in like manner to so many other predictions that have come and gone and that don’t materialize, what I would say to you is, what do you perceive is important? Paying attention to what you are doing now and shaping what occurs in two more years? Or waiting and projecting a fearful energy and perhaps generating disappointment in two years? (Paul laughs) What I would say to you is that predictions are also easy to express; anyone can express predictions. And in that, I would put very little, if any, energy into any of these predictions, because it negates your choices. Who is directing your reality?

PAUL: I am.

ELIAS: Precisely. Or time? Or some unknown source? You are. Therefore, what will YOU create? And I would say to you that at this point you don’t know what you will create in 2020, because you don’t necessarily know what you will create tomorrow.

BARB: What about the past?

ELIAS: What ABOUT the past?

BARB: The issue I’m having a lot of times is remembering the choices I’ve made in the past.

ELIAS: Oh! That is a significant trap. Continue.

BARB: And regretting those choices. So I spend a lot of time noticing I’m beating myself up over something but realizing I really need to let it go. But it kind of goes around in circles.

ELIAS: Let me first express to you, my friend, very genuinely: be gentle with yourself, because whatever you have engaged in the past that you regret now or that you even regretted a day subsequent to doing an action, the regret comes in hindsight. And the reason for that is, every single day you are changing. Every day you give yourself more information. Every day you grow.

And in that, what you see in looking backward is from the perspective of the present. And the present always has more awareness than the past—even five minutes ago. Five minutes from now, you have more awareness than you do in this moment. In this moment, you have more awareness than you did five minutes prior to this moment.

This is all very literal. What I would say to you is, when you are looking at actions that you chose in the past and you assess that you are dissatisfied with them or you don’t like them or they were bad or you could have done so much better, those are all statements from the perspective of now. In the moment, whatever motivated you to do whatever you did in the past, you did with the awareness that you had then. Therefore, with that awareness then, you couldn’t have generated a better choice. Even if you knew at the time that some choices were not good or that you weren’t happy with or that you were even ashamed of, you obviously couldn’t see any other choices at that time or you would have engaged them. Therefore, you couldn’t see them.

Just as in this very moment now, you can’t see all of your choices. A week from now you might look at today, looking back, and you might see how you could have done something different today that would have been better than whatever you did today. But you weren’t aware of that in the moment, for you aren’t aware of it in this moment.

Let me express to you, we have engaged questions from two other individuals in relation to what they are engaging now and what they are anticipating doing futurely. Therefore, part of their present is involving what they are preparing for and what they are moving into and what they are already engaging in part in relation to what they are doing futurely.

Now; both of those individuals today are generating choices that are a matter of what their awareness is today. Six months from now, they may look at today and they may think, “The answers were directly in front of me. Why didn’t I see that?” They don’t see it today.

Or they may, six months from now, express, “My life is tremendous. I am so successful. I am so grateful. I am so satisfied. Why couldn’t I see that six months ago? Why was I worrying about it six months ago?” Because they couldn’t see what would be, six months futurely.

Anything that you regret is a weed that chokes you. It is not worthy of your attention. You are more valuable than that. You deserve more than that. And weeds such as regret easily breed into shame. And that is a very ugly weed, and you definitely don’t deserve that.

Let me express to you, my friend, very genuinely and very literally, whatever you have done, whatever choices you have engaged, regardless of how terrible YOU may perceive them to be, they likely aren’t as terrible as you perceive them to be, first of all. And secondly, it is pointless to discount yourself and to judge yourself and to express that regret. It doesn’t change what was. It merely discounts you more by pulling it all into the present and dragging it with you.

What I would express to you is it may be time now to give yourself permission to acknowledge that you don’t have to like choices that you engaged pastly, you don’t have to like what scenarios were engaged in the past, but you can acknowledge that you didn’t see any other choices at the time. Therefore, regardless of what you think or what you know now, you couldn’t have generated different choices in the moment, at the time.

Therefore, it is pointless to drag this judgment with you when you couldn’t have generated any other choices. You don’t expect a child to generate choices that they are incapable of. Why would you expect yourself to generate choices that YOU aren’t capable of, at any particular moment? And remind yourself: regret comes from hindsight. When you engage a choice in the moment, you don’t regret it in the moment, you regret it later. Even if it is only one day later, still it is in hindsight. In the moment, you do what you believe is what you can do.

Therefore, judging past experiences is pointless, because you always judge them from a very different perspective than what the perspective was at the time.

BARB: I’m real good at telling other people that same thing, but not telling myself.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, I would suggest that you perhaps avail yourself of a particular group interaction that we engaged a considerable time framework ago, a very small group of individuals. It was termed to be, by myself, “The Secrets Session.” (1) Let me express to you, that was a very difficult and challenging session for the individuals that participated. I requested of each of them that they genuinely think and evaluate what was their deepest, darkest secret. What was the one thing that they expressed the most intense judgment of themself about, their most unforgivable sin?

And we engaged one week later, and we did engage that Secrets Session. (2) And each individual offered the identification of their secret. And to each individual it was tremendously difficult, because each of them carried a considerable shame. Shame moves hand in hand with secret. Silence is the companion of shame. And when an individual perceives that they have engaged choices that are so terrible, they are silent about it, and they breed that shame, and it festers, and you are correct. It creates this very strong weed of regret.

Now; what I would express to you in relation to that, each one of these individuals was ashamed and embarrassed. And it was difficult for them to share, but they did. And what they learned in that sharing was that their perception of the judgment was multiple times more and stronger than anyone else’s. That when they actually shared what their terrible sins were, the other individuals were actually supportive and not judgmental. The only ones that were judgmental were themselves.

Connect with that session. Because what I would say to you is some of the expressions that these individuals shared were actions that many individuals WOULD judge, but they didn’t in that company. And in that, the greatest judgments came from each individual of himself.

What I would say to you, my friend, is you are here in this reality to explore, to experience. That doesn’t necessarily mean good experiences. It doesn’t necessarily mean comfortable continuously. That is part of this Shift. It is moving in a direction of creating your reality intentionally, not merely knowing that you are creating it but doing it intentionally in the direction that you want. But I would express that this is a very new expression. It is a source event, a master source event. It has only been being engaged for one hundred and eighteen of your years, which is a blink of an eye in relation to history.

In this, I would say to you, my friend, that to expect yourself to have the ability to intentionally create your reality excellently and always in a manner that you are pleased with, that you are satisfied with, that you are comfortable with, even now is unrealistic. You are learning. You are expanding.

In this, I would express to you all those expressions that you offer to other individuals and you encourage them, where you express that allowance with them, why are you any less than them? Regardless of who they are. I would say to you in connecting with your energy, it would not be surprising if you were to meet an individual that expressed to you that they had actually killed someone, if they expressed that they were tremendously judging themselves and ashamed and regretful, I would say that you would likely be expressing some type of encouragement to them and compassion.

Have you murdered someone recently? (Barb laughs) I doubt it. Therefore, in that, what I would say to you is, do you deserve any less than that other individual? No, you don’t.

I would say to you that you deserve to be gentle with yourself and to (louder) not forgive yourself, (quieter) for forgiveness implies that you intentionally did something wrong. You didn’t do something wrong. You made choices. You made choices in relation to what your awareness was at the time. That is all. You don’t have to like those choices. You don’t have to agree with them now, but you can express an acceptance of them, knowing that you had no other awareness of other choices at the time.

BARB: Thank you.

ELIAS: And I will express my energy to you in strength, to aid in comfort, to encourage you to express that acceptance with yourself. There is no action that any one of you can do that is so terrible that you are bound to carry it with you forever.


MODERATOR: Hi. This is the moderator here. Just a quick note. I think we started about five minutes past the hour, at 2 p.m. local time, so we have about a half an hour left. I did mute a couple of people or a few folks just for background noise, so you can unmute yourself in the screen that you’re on. If you’re dialed in on the phone, you can unmute yourself by pressing *6. So, please continue.

PILAR: I just wanted to make a comment on that, about being supportive. I’ve read nothing about the essence of Rose. I've noticed that there are a lot of transcripts about it, but I’ve been feeling lately like I’m… I’ve been a feminist and I’ve participated of social movements for a while, like very strongly and with a lot of anger against people like Putin, I suppose, against leaders. And there was a moment where I said like I think this is enough. I talked to a friend and I told her we are lending power to people that already have that power, and there is a lot of power like alternate to that power, if… I don’t know if you’re following me.

But I feel that other power now. And I feel that power is broadening somehow. It’s like very nurturing and motherly, and I feel it, like I feel nurtured wherever I go somehow. It’s not all the time, but I’ve been feeling it, and I wanted to ask you because I don’t think that my essence is Borledim. Well, you told me it’s not, right now. But I feel like this connection, like if Borledim was lending me energy somehow and is lending a lot of people energy somehow.

And I feel that might be related a little bit with feminist—not angry feminist movement, but with these women trying to reclaim this nurturing power. I don’t know. I don’t want to have kids, I don’t want to be a mother, but I feel all the time that I’m sort of pregnant with like pink energy. I don’t know. It’s like… It’s a little bit weird, but I think it’s beautiful at the same time. Like I’m looking at you right now, the world is pink, and I feel this supporting, nurturing energy.

ELIAS: Congratulations! (Chuckles) And I would be very encouraging of you.

PILAR: Thank you. Is there like a Borledim, I don’t know, lending of energy? Like these things with politics are happening and there’s also this other movement? Is that something that is going on, or is it just personal, like mine?

ELIAS: I would say both. Yes. I would say that there is a considerable contribution of energy in relation to that family. I would also say that you might be noticing a concentration of energy in relation to all of the individuals that are belonging to or aligning with that family expressing that contribution of energy to all of you.

PILAR: Okay, thank you. That’s nice to know. (Elias chuckles)

BRIGITT: Hi, Elias!

ELIAS: Welcome.

BRIGITT: It’s nice to interact with you again. Any update on the science wave?

ELIAS: (Laughs) When there is, I will be informing you immediately. (Brigitt laughs)

BRIGITT: (Laughs) Awesome. Thank you.

PAUL: Hey Elias, you mentioned Lazour. Is someone else in our forum doing an energy exchange with that particular essence? Or how is he interactive with us?

ELIAS: No. Presently, I would express that there is not an individual that is generating an energy exchange with that essence, although it is possible that it could develop in that direction. But what I would say to you is that this essence is, as I expressed, a very supportive essence, and in that has been, in a manner of speaking in your terms, considerably in the background for a considerable time framework, but is definitely expressing a consideration of certain directions and a concentration of energy in encouragement of those directions, very much in relation to the promotion of the individual and the promotion of interconnectedness and knowledge.

PAUL: Cool! (Elias chuckles) Does he have a moniker like you have? You’re like a color blue. Does Lazour have a certain moniker that indicates his supportive energy is interactive?

ELIAS: One moment. (Pause) Yes, actually. I would express that this is an interesting configuration and very typical. I would say that the expression that Lazour engages is breeze.

PAUL: Like a gentle zephyr, or something like that?

ELIAS: Similar to wind or a gentle wind, but movement of air, even when there isn’t a movement of air.

PAUL: (Laughs) That’s cool.

ELIAS: Therefore, it can be noticed even when there isn’t a wind, when the air moves. Individuals might feel that actually in relation to their sense of touch. You might feel that in relation to your skin, as if a breeze was touching your skin.

PAUL: Cool!


TODD: Elias?


TODD: This is Todd again. I just got a quick question, because I got into your material back in 2002, and I I dove deep with it for about six, probably six years. Was it organized for us to meet up in this realm at that time?

ELIAS: Meaning?

TODD: Well, I drifted away from you to kind of just really making this work… You know, I…

ELIAS: I would say, my friend, that you have never drifted away. And I have definitely never drifted away from you.

TODD: Whoa! Wow.

ELIAS: You may have engaged other interests—

TODD: Correct.

ELIAS: —that may have occupied your attention for a time framework, but you have never drifted away. And I have never drifted away from you.

TODD: Thank you. (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: You have been busy. (Laughs)

TODD: Yes. Will you be a part of this mystery schools?

ELIAS: I am already. (Laughs)

TODD: Okay. I figured that. (Both chuckle) Wow.

ELIAS: My energy has been supportive of you for the entire ride. (Laughs)

TODD: Wow. Amazing. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend.

JEFF: Hi Elias, this is Jeff.

ELIAS: Welcome.

JEFF: I have a question about cetaceans.


JEFF: It seems that, since cetaceans are manifestations of essence, it coincides with the time of our Shift. Correct?


JEFF: So, I was wondering. I never really understood why at that point in time essence had decided to manifest as all cetaceans. And I had a couple of thoughts on that, and I was wondering if you could give me a comment. For one, it seems to me that the ocean contains creatures that we sort of dismiss as not much other than food. And as manifestations of essence, cetaceans sort of provide an influence, a balancing influence for the earth and an influence for mankind to search a little deeper into what the ocean exactly holds.

ELIAS: I would agree.

JEFF: I was wondering how far that influence goes, because there are still countries that just shamelessly kill marine life for food, and they overfish, the seas are overfished, and they really have no sense of respect for the life that’s in the ocean.

ELIAS: And this surprises you?

JEFF: I’m sorry?

ELIAS: And this is surprising to you?

JEFF: No. It’s not surprising to me (Elias chuckles) but I’m wondering if this manifestation of essence as cetaceans is part of that, is to initiate change from that?

ELIAS: Definitely. Definitely. And I would express that in that, it has been considerably successful, because I would say to you that they have gained considerable notice, have they not?

JEFF: Yes.

ELIAS: And in that, this is one creature in the vastness of your oceans that you do pay attention to, and that most of your world has agreed to coexist with — not all, but most. Which is an accomplishment, especially considering that you continue to kill and maim and torture each other, the factor that most of your world has chosen in agreement to coexist peacefully with cetaceans is a tremendous step forward and a tremendous accomplishment.

JEFF: I have one more question.

ELIAS: It moves you closer. It does move you closer to not hunting yourselves. (Laughs)

JEFF: I see small fish swimming with sharks in raves. Are they pets for these—do the sharks have pets? Is that what that is?

ELIAS: No. They are companions, and they serve purposes. They serve mutual purposes to each other. They swim as companions, and they feed each other. And in that, the smaller fish that swim with the sharks also serve, not only in the capacity of, in a manner of speaking, grooming with the sharks – that is loosely expressed, because they do much more than that, – but they also lure other fish.

Therefore, in this it is a mutual cooperation between the two species that allows both of them to coexist together and to benefit each other. Which is also an excellent example that is displayed, that two very different species that perform very different functions, in a manner of speaking, can coexist and cooperate with each other very well and very easily.

JEFF: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.


BRIGITT: Hi, Elias!

ELIAS: Welcome.

BRIGITT: I have a question for you. I heard the other day, and I think it was from Eckhart Tolle, and he said that presence is being free of self-image. What would you say to that?

ELIAS: That is an interesting statement. I would say, in a manner of speaking, I would agree, because I would say that, for the most part, individuals’ self-image is considerably colored by what they learn, what they think they are supposed to be, or constructs around what they are. And therefore, being present – genuinely being present – is an awareness of who and what you are genuinely, which is beyond all of that. It isn’t encumbered with all of that.

Which is the reason that I have expressed many times that one of the most significant expressions that you will notice in being present is that it changes importances. What you think is important becomes very unimportant. And what you don’t consider important becomes important.

BRIGITT: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.

PAUL: Hey Elias, I’ve got a quick— Go ahead. (Elias chuckles)

MODERATOR: No, no, no. It’s just the moderator saying that we just have around ten minutes, or less than ten minutes. Go ahead, Paul.

PAUL: Oh, yes or no question, Elias: do time meddlers ever interact directly with time fixers?

ELIAS: (Pause) Yes.

PAUL: Oooh. Interesting. Thanks. (Elias chuckles)

PILAR: Elias, I also have another question. Please, may I know is Richard a last focus? He wanted this, for me to know. A final focus?


PILAR: Okay. That explains a lot, I think. (Elias chuckles) Thank you. (Pause)

BARB: I have a quick question. The word “Rem” – I don’t know if that’s an essence or one of my essence or a focus, but it’s… there’s just an awareness about it, but I can’t place it.

ELIAS: Several focuses. It is a name that has been incorporated in several focuses.

BARB: Male or female?

ELIAS: Both.

BARB: Oh, fascinating. (Elias chuckles)


TODD: Hi, Elias. One more question. This is Todd again. As a practice in alchemism, from what I’ve been told by the high priest I really studied this art. I started delving more into other hermetic sciences like Hermetic Kabbalah, hermetic astrology. We got into the Thoth Tarot. Should I stay mainly focused on alchemy? And how close am I from creating the philosopher’s stone?

ELIAS: The philosopher’s stone! Not close.

TODD: Not close. (Elias laughs) Wow!

ELIAS: (Laughs) But not impossible! But I would express that that would require a considerable amount more practice.

TODD: Okay.

ELIAS: But in that, I would express to you it is not a matter of what you should or shouldn’t do; it is a matter of what interests you. If alchemy is interesting and fascinating to you, then by all means continue to explore it, and you may be more successful than you realize. Remember that alchemy is not only expressed in what is traditionally recognized. It is merely the transformation of one thing into another thing, —

TODD: Correct.

ELIAS: — and you can do that with anything. I would also express that you might enjoy some other explorations also. But you don’t have to choose one or another.

TODD: Okay.

ELIAS: You can do them all. (Chuckles)

TODD: Okay. And then as the Shift accelerates, the veil will lighten up and we’ll start to see more and more?

ELIAS: Definitely.

TODD: Okay.

ELIAS: You already are, but the more you are present and the more you are shifting, the more you expand your awareness, yes, the more those veils of separation do thin. And you do generate more and more experiences, which is the point.

TODD: Correct. In the mystery schools we’re creating that online platform, The Esoteric U, which is an online learning platform. Will that, once we get enough people onto that platform, will that transform into the physical reality so we actually have a Mystery Schools International in like England, one in Australia, one in Canada? And each one will have its own alchemical café, courtyard café in a wellness centre? Is that…?

ELIAS: It can. It is very possible. It definitely can move in that direction. That is up to you.

TODD: Okay.

ELIAS: That is a matter of what you choose and how you proceed, but you definitely can move in that direction and it is a definite potential.

TODD: Okay. Will this Esoteric U platform be instrumental in the shift in consciousness at this time?


TODD: Okay.


PAUL: Hey Elias, I’ve got a quick yes-or-no question. Is it easier to develop my extra-terrestrial ray during the science wave, or does it make a difference?

ELIAS: It doesn’t actually make a difference. It won’t necessarily be easier. The science wave will not move in a direction of making scientific expressions easier.

PAUL: Interesting. Thanks.

ELIAS: You are welcome. Remember what these waves are for, my friends. They are to challenge you. They are to bring to light new, and to emphasize what has been familiar and what isn’t fitting any longer. Therefore, they challenge you in relation to what you already believe and what you already express, that you will move forward and generate new discoveries.

These waves aren’t being expressed to give you answers; they are being expressed to challenge what is familiar to you and to encourage you to move beyond that. Therefore, the answers are within you. You already hold them. It is a matter of allowing yourself to unlock them.


PILAR: May I ask brass properties, and maybe which metal is most beneficial for me to wear permanently?

ELIAS: Silver.

PILAR: Silver. Okay.

ELIAS: And what would the quality of brass be? Brass is expressing a quality of flexibility, physical and otherwise.

PILAR: Of possibility?

ELIAS: Flexibility.

PILAR: Ah! Flexibility. Okay, very cool. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

MODERATOR: I think our time is almost up, unless somebody has a last minute yes-or-no question?


WENDY: Elias, I would like to express my appreciation for your suggestions about regret and shame. I really enjoyed that interaction.

LYNDA: Me too.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.

LYNDA: Me too, Wendy. (Wendy laughs)

ELIAS: You are very welcome. And I definitely—

PAUL: Ditto here.

ELIAS: I definitely encourage all of you in that. You are all definitely valuable, worthy, deserving individuals. Don’t be choked by regret.

LYNDA: Thank you.

ELIAS: I express tremendous encouragement to all of you, and tremendous lovingness and affection to each and every one of you. I shall greatly be anticipating our next interaction, and I shall be offering my energy to each of you in tremendous encouragement in all of your endeavours.

LYNDA: Thank you.

ELIAS: In dear friendship to each of you, au revoir.

GROUP: Au revoir.

(Elias departs after 1 hour 35 minutes.)


(1) First Secrets Session, #167, April 27, 1997

(2) Second Secrets Session, #171, May 4, 1997