Session 405


“Dismantling Shrines”
“Fear of Interaction”
“Automatic Responses”

Thursday, May 27, 1999  © 1999 (Private/Phone)
Participants:  Mary (Michael), and one new participant, Daryl (Ashrah).
Elias arrives at 3:09 PM. (Arrival time is 20 seconds)

ELIAS:  Good afternoon!

DARYL:  Hello, Elias.  It’s good to talk to you in this new way. (Elias chuckles)  This is Ashrah.

ELIAS:  And you have inquiries this day, Ashrah?

DARYL:  Yes, I do.  I’m interested in talking about several areas that to me all seem to be intertwined and connected with fear and duplicity.  One of them is shrines to the past, and another one is an internal survival system I have which sort of divides me and is very limiting to me, and another one is my eye condition which causes pain on focusing.  I sent you an e-mail question earlier about this, and you said that that was connected with shrines, and also a genetic choice that I’ve made. (reference #)

To me, these areas are all connected with my fear and duplicity, and I don’t know if you’d like to discuss them separately or together.  I did feel like about four months ago I began a shift inside me, and thought that I was starting to dismantle the shrines and that things were happening, but now I kind of feel like I’m back on the hamster wheel.  I’m just not getting very far very fast.

ELIAS:  (Chuckling)  And you are experiencing the surgence of surfacing of this element of duplicity within yourself, are you not?

DARYL:  Yes, I am.

ELIAS:  Let me express to you initially that partially, this is in conjunction with this wave in consciousness which is occurring presently, which emphasizes many aspects of beliefs and is also bringing surfacely many issues that individuals hold, allowing you the opportunity to be examining and noticing these aspects of belief systems and also your individual fears and issues that you hold.

Now; in this, I shall inquire of you if you are wishing to be discussing elements of your fearfulness, or if you are wishing to be discussing other aspects of your reality presently?

DARYL:  Well, I know that fear is an important issue to me.  If there’s something else that I’m not aware of, I’d like to know about that.  But I do seem to be holding very strongly to the fear, and it seems to me that that’s preventing me from letting go of this system inside me, if you understand what I mean by that.

ELIAS:  Quite.  In this, let me express to you that you are presently moving into a position of addressing to many of these elements within yourself, that you may be preparing yourself in outward expressions which concern other individuals, and this would be in relation to your individual intent.  Therefore, in a manner of speaking, what you are moving into presently is sweeping away the cobwebs, so to speak, and emptying of your closets, and in this action, you afford yourself much more freedom of movement and much more freedom within your individual creativity to be expressing yourself with other individuals.

Now; presently and for much time framework within your focus previously, you have held issues in the area of fearfulness with respect to other individuals and interaction with them.  I express to you, as you are aware already, that I focus attention quite specifically, much of the time, so to speak, in the direction of looking to self and examining those areas of self in which you are not accepting of.

Now; let me express in this that this particular direction of attention is extremely important, for it is very affecting, not merely of yourself but also within the interactions of other individuals, for individuals shall mirror to you what you project outwardly to them.

In this, individuals — yourself also, pastly — look in the direction of examining other individual’s behaviors and expressions and hold confusion in their thought process, that they view themselves as projecting outwardly what you term to be helpfulness and kindness and also that they project outwardly non-involvement in other individual’s issues, therefore offering no reason for other individuals to be interacting with them in any manner of what you view as negativity.  They enter the area of confusion as they are faced with this type of negativity, regardless of their perception of their outward expression.

You have created this type of situation many times within your focus, which creates confusion and also lends much energy to areas of fear, for you view that other individual’s expressions become suspect and you are not trusting of their expressions in fearfulness that they may be hurtful to you, and you have experienced this feeling and this creation within reality, of hurtfulness repeatedly within your individual focus.

Now; I express to you that the reason that you draw these experiences to yourself is that you are holding to certain shrines.  Be remembering — as you are aware of shrines — that within the action that individuals create concerning these shrines, you create patterns and repeated actions that shall reinforce your beliefs and shall reinforce the issues that are creating of the shrine.

In this, you have created a shrine in the area of how other people are viewing you, and that this is the measure of your expression and of your worth.  Therefore, they are very intertwined.  In each individual’s expression to you, if it is holding any hint, so to speak, of lack of acceptance in any direction within your perception, you shall add this to your shrine as another jewel and reinforce the issue that you already hold.

But let us be in remembrance of these shrines and the action of these shrines, for you draw to yourself expressions that shall be reinforcing of these issues, for you hold tightly to them and you do not view these as bad, but are very protective of these great shrines and are — in a manner of speaking, as I have stated previously — worshipping of the value of these shrines.

Now; this type of situation with very large shrines creates difficulty and thickness within an individual’s focus, for as you begin to notice that you have created a shrine of this type and you begin to address to this creation, you also choose to be dismantling of it, but hold confusion in how you may be dismantling of it.  This moves us into the area of focusing upon self.

Now; I also express to you that I hold awareness of the difficulty in this area, for it is not merely the creation of the shrine that holds much power and energy, but also, within physical focus you have become very accustomed to creating automatic behaviors.  In this, you create certain draws and responses within yourselves as easily and automatically as you create your breath — with no thought process.  Therefore, many times there is initially also a great difficulty in addressing to these types of situations.  Therefore, I express to you my awareness that what I am expressing to you may seem quite simplistic in words, but I hold awareness of the difficulty in its actualization.

In turning your attention to self, be recognizing of how you are drawing certain expressions from other individuals by not accepting yourself.  In this, you ARE noticing of many areas of duplicity, for this may be slightly easier to be identifying, but in this noticing of duplicitous expressions and experiences, you may also move farther inward and identify the triggers, the emotions, the responses, and the reactions that you automatically are creating in relation to other individuals with respect to yourself.

As you move in the direction of choosing to be addressing to these issues and changing your reality, your most efficient movement in widening your awareness is to be affording yourself more of an acceptance of self.  You may begin with this in small increments.

I express to you, individuals many times may become discouraged and also distracted in their attempt to be dismantling a shrine, for as they begin to view the shrine, they also view the enormity of it and the depth of it, and in this, they may be overwhelming themselves in viewing how they may be dismantling of this immense structure that they have created within them.

I express to you that you lean in this direction also, in being overcome, in a manner of speaking, at viewing these issues and the intensity of energy which has been provided them, and subsequently not holding a thought process or a feeling of adequacy in the area of ability to be dismantling of this shrine.

Now; this is the expression of the duplicity, which is also hindering of your movement.  I express to you that you may be very efficiently dismantling of this once you are turning your attention more efficiently to self.

In this, I offer to you that you may be moving in small increments initially, merely noticing each time you are experiencing the twinging and the triggering of defensiveness, and also of what you may term to be hurtfulness.  Many times, you may also be noticing of a twinge of irritation that you automatically express within you.

Now; I am not expressing to you that you be noticing of those time frameworks in which these types of expressions are quite obvious to you, but that you be noticing, within each interaction that you hold with other individuals, your triggering and your twinging that you create within you within each of these different expressions of interactions.

It matters not the measure in physical terms, that you view them to be quite small, for in viewing small twinges, in your terms, you are less inclined to follow those twinges and create a behavior in response to them, but you may allow yourself to be holding without a response or without a reaction, and merely allow yourself the moments to be examining why you are twinging in the manner that you are.

As you begin to notice these time frameworks, you may also identify to yourself at which times you are feeling oppressed and at which times you are feeling what you may term to be a victim of another individual’s expression.  You may also notice in this how you move in the direction of creating a feeling of immobilization and helplessness.

These are not expressions that other individuals thrust upon you.  These are expressions that you create within yourself, and you view these to be protections for yourself.  But in actuality, I express to you that they merely restrain your movement, and cage you, and limit your expressions by eliminating much of your individual freedom.  In this, you have based, so to speak, much of your own freedom of movement in relation to other individuals.

I express to you that the reason you engage with me this day is to offer yourself objective information that you already hold and you already know, in the direction of readiness to turn your attention to self now, and occupy your movement with noticing your own expressions regardless of other individual’s expressions.  In this, also offer yourself permission temporarily to be moving in directions that offer you no conflict, and if your no-conflict scenario is to be removing yourself physically from certain situations, employ that action!  For initially, within this movement that you are creating presently, more importance is held that you continue to be reinforcing of yourself and creating your individual no-conflict scenarios, and this shall be validating to you in strengthening your acceptance of self regardless of other individual’s expressions.

I express to you also, eventually you may move into fuller expressions and you may not necessarily choose to be removing yourself from certain situations.  But presently, your acceptance of self is quite weakened, and therefore I express to you to be attending to self first, and all other matters secondly.  Are you understanding?

DARYL:  I’m not sure about the last part, about removing myself from the situation.  Are you talking about a relationship I’m recently in?

ELIAS:  No.  No, I am not expressing that you be removing yourself in these types of extreme terms, but as you are engaging in any particular moment of conflict and you notice that you are beginning to be more and more intensely discounting of yourself and your own expression within that conflict, it may be more efficient for you, within the moment, to be removing yourself temporarily from the interaction.

Now; in like manner, I am also expressing to you that it may be quite beneficial to you also to be removing yourself from yourself within your inner chatter at times also, for as you allow yourself to move in the direction of concentrating upon certain situations and creations and analyzing and repeating them to yourself over and over within your thought process, examining every angle of every expression that you hold, you begin to move into the area of doubting your own expression, and in this, you allow a wide window for the expression of duplicity.

In this, I offer to you that you may be offering yourself much more of an efficient expression — to be stopping and not continuing your hamster wheel within your thought process as you engage any situation that is creating uncomfortableness with you, and allow yourself to move your attention into another area.  In a manner of speaking, it may be beneficial to you to disengage your analyzation and to be distracting yourself temporarily.  You may return to your thought process and your analyzation of a particular situation, but once you have offered yourself a temporary removal and distraction, you lessen the intensity and therefore also break the circle of perpetuating the intensity of energy that you create within yourself, which also creates much of your confusion. (Pause, and then Daryl sighs and Elias chuckles)

DARYL:  Okay....

ELIAS:  Ashrah!

DARYL:  Pardon?

ELIAS:  I express to you that I offer you this information as I am recognizing within your energy how very efficiently you magnate in the direction of discounting self, and in this expression, you may be offering many different types of expressions that you view to be helpful to other individuals, and you are not affording yourself this helpfulness very much at all.

Therefore, I express this information to you quite purposefully in recognizing that there is a very large area within you that closes to your own expression of openness and vulnerability, and this is your expression of fear, and this also is your expression of duplicity, and in this, you do not afford yourself the comfort that you may afford to other individuals.

I express to you that you hold equal importance within physical focus and within all of consciousness to every other individual that is manifest, and you are as unique and as wondrous as any other individual!  You merely do not accept this within yourself, for you view yourself to be the expression of the vacuum of the black hole, and I express to you that I view you within your energy to be the wondrous expression of the universe manifest within physical form!

Therefore, accept this information, that you may offer yourself the opportunity to be appreciating of self and not be discounting of self so very often.

DARYL:  Okay.  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are very welcome.

DARYL:  In relation to my eyes, I felt that just before the condition started, I essentially gave up because I did feel the enormity of this and I felt helpless to change it, and that my eyes are partly an expression of that turning away and that helplessness.

ELIAS:  Quite, and I express to you that you have quite efficiently created this outward physical expression of your protection.  You do not allow yourself to focus, for you are concentrating very strongly upon holding your energy, that it may offer you a protection and not allow you to express the vulnerability and the openness.  But in this expression, you are also restraining your own movement and you are creating of great limitations, and as you continue to be creating of these limitations within yourself, you mirror this outwardly in your expression of self.

Now; look to this expression, and how do you view this expression but as very bad, unacceptable, inadequate, and quite less than efficient?  And this is how you view yourself.  Therefore, it is quite efficient, within your expression of self in gaining your attention, that you shall employ your physical vision to offer you this type of information.

DARYL:  So, if I move towards accepting myself and dismantling the shrines, then it will probably have an impact on my eye condition?

ELIAS:  Quite; yes.  I express to you, you hold in truth the ability to be altering this expression, and although I express to you that this also is an alignment with genetics, this is not locking you within an absolute expression and is not suggesting to you that you no longer hold the ability to be altering that reality, for you do.

Any individual may be moving outside of their own choices for alignment with genetic expressions within any given movement.

You within physical focus, in your amazement at these types of expressions, express to yourselves that you view miracles.  I express to you that these are merely choices that individuals create in the desire to be altering of their expression of what they have created within their reality, recognizing that it is unnecessary for the continuation of that particular expression.

Now that you begin to offer yourself more of an understanding of what you are creating physically as a mirror expression of how you view yourself and your entirety of your focus, you may begin to be turning your attention to self and beginning upon your movement in acceptance of self, and as you move into this expression, you shall also be affecting of your physical expression that you have created to this present now.  You may be uncreating this.  You may also be uncreating your expression of lack of acceptance of yourself!

DARYL:  Okay.  One other thing I wanted to know about is that I did create some money a few years ago that has enabled me to take time off, which for one thing lessened the pain in my eyes and allowed me to start reading and draw myself to the Elias material.  So, I’m thinking that it is within my intent to continue to bring in money and not go back to a traditional job, because I would much rather spend my time working within the shift.  Can you tell me if that’s a probability?

ELIAS:  Within your present creation of your probabilities, yes.

I express to you that the reason that your present probabilities move in this direction is that your desire is very great in this area, and your movement into the area of turning your attention to self within your desire is also very great.  Therefore, you view this type of action subjectively to be quite easy.  This, within your subjective awareness, appears to be an incidental, so to speak, and you shall afford yourself this type of creation without much laboriousness, for you wish not to be expelling energy and great attention in this area of creating physical, financial, and material elements, but merely to be creating that as a means, so to speak, to be facilitating what you view to be a much greater area of importance in your focus.

Therefore, I express to you, as I have stated, within the probabilities that you are presently creating, yes, you are also creating an acquisition of financial helpfulness, that you may continue to concentrate your energy in other areas that shall be much more efficient in holding your attention with respect to yourself and to your participation within this shift in consciousness.

Each movement that you engage in addressing to self and in accomplishing within your acceptance of self lends much energy within this shift and lends much energy to other individuals within physical focus.  It also frees you to be actualizing more of your abilities to be helpful with other individuals objectively.

DARYL:  Okay.  I’ve had another experience with my eyes that seems unrelated.  It’s happened several times over the past few years.  My vision of physical reality begins to look like I’m seeing it through running water, and when I close my eyes, I see geometric shapes that are different colors and that are alive and moving, and I wondered if this was a bleed-through of another dimension, or if it isn’t that, what it is.

ELIAS:  You are correct.  This is a bleed-through.  This is not a physical affectingness of your eyes or your physical vision.  It is merely a temporary expression that you allow as you begin to widen your awareness.  It may be occurring more frequently if you are opening yourself to the allowance of this action.

Now; be understanding that for the most part, individuals are not necessarily experiencing this type of action in relation to bleed-throughs intentionally yet.  This is not to say that you may not move into the position of objectively, intentionally manipulating this type of engagement.  But presently, for the most part, as I have stated, it appears to be a random action, although it is not random, but it appears within physical focus to be occurring randomly.  This, in your experience and your situation also, is an other-dimensional focus that you hold within essence which is bleeding through, and therefore, you view as it views.

DARYL:  So, is that focus made of shapes like that?

ELIAS:  It does not hold form in the manner that you are accustomed to.  The reason that you view this type of vision — in which you describe that it appears you are viewing through running water — is that this particular dimension does not hold the solidity that you have created in this dimension that you occupy.  In this, certain elements of their reality hold this sparkling quality that you view as blinking geometric shapes and colors.  This is an element of their reality in their physical terms.

They themselves hold more to the type of form of much less solidity and what you may term to be a watery type of created form, although it is not comprised of water, but this is very closely translated into your reality within the identification of elements within your reality that you recognize.  Therefore, as they hold this type of form, they also view other forms in this manner.  This be the reason that you experience this type of vision temporarily and infrequently, for you are allowing yourself to view in the manner that they view.

DARYL:  Okay, that makes sense.  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome.

DARYL:  It’s my understanding that I am a final focus.  Is that correct?

ELIAS:  You are correct.

DARYL:  Have I engaged transition? (10-second pause)

ELIAS:  You have engaged this action of transition in what you term to be — linear time — two years previous to this present now, but I express to you that you move cautiously presently into the action of this transition and are not engaging intensity in it presently, for you occupy your attention much more in the direction of holding to your attempts to be focusing and not necessarily de-focusing, which is partially an action within the movement of transition.

DARYL:  I was wondering if you could give me a clue about another focus to investigate, one that would be interesting or helpful.

ELIAS:  I express to you, you may be investigating of another focus that you hold within eastern regions; southern tip, so to speak, of your continent of South America.  In that focus, which occupies a time framework of 1719, your essence holds a focus of an individual, also female, within a small tribe that you would identify to be quite primitive, but I express to you that the social and cultural state of this particular focus matters not, for [in] this particular focus, the individual experiences many similar challenges to yourself, and also experiences many similar emotional affectingnesses and responses inwardly that she does not engage outwardly and does not allow other individuals to view.  Therefore, in that focus, she is quite guarded within her expressions, viewing that emotional expressions are creating of a perception within herself that other individuals view as a lack of strength.  In investigating this particular focus, you may also offer yourself insight to self.

I express to you that many times, individuals within physical focus — you yourself also — may view another individual much more clearly than you allow yourself to view yourself.  Therefore, as you view the expressions and the holding of energy and the protectiveness that this individual exerts, you may apply this also to yourself, for you exchange energy with that focus in lending energy to each other.  Therefore, in your perpetuation of your expressions you lend energy, and in your allowance for openness you lend energy, and in this, you may not merely afford yourself more freedom and more of an understanding of self, but you may be also lending energy to a freer expression within herself.

DARYL:  Okay.  Our time is pretty much up, so I guess I will hold the rest of my questions for another time.

ELIAS:  Very well, and I shall anticipate our next meeting, and I shall be inquiring as to your progress in the area of your noticing and your implementation of your no-conflict scenario.  I am encouraging of you within your engagement of interactiveness with other individuals presently, and your allowance of yourself to be attempting in your own movement into some areas of vulnerability within relationship.  I am acknowledging of your desire and your beginnings of movement, and I shall also offer you a lending of energy from myself in your continuation of your movement.

Hold your attention to self and be acknowledging of self, and I shall be interactive with you and we shall view together, and as we view, I may be choosing to be interactive with you at times to be reminding you of your discounting of self, that you may continue to be moving in the direction of accepting of self. (Laughing)

DARYL:  Okay, I’ll try to notice that too!

ELIAS:  (Laughing)  I am quite fond of small energy proddings to be helpful to individuals within physical focus!  You may not be reminding yourself quite as often as I may be reminding of you to be noticing! (Laughing)

DARYL:  Well, I could certainly use the help!

ELIAS:  To you this day I offer great affection, and I bid you quite lovingly, adieu.

DARYL:  Adieu.

Elias departs at 4:10 PM.