Session 1321


“What Is Language?”
“Is Form a Belief?”

Thursday, April 24, 2003 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Anjuli (Myranda)

Elias arrives at 9:03 AM. (Arrival time is 13 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

ANJULI: Good afternoon, Elias! Oh, it’s so great to talk with you in this way! (Elias laughs)

What is language, Elias? Is language based on thought?

ELIAS: Not necessarily, although you do translate much language through thought, and many times you translate language into words through thought but not entirely. At times you translate language in images. Language is a translation of communications.

Now; that translation may not necessarily be filtered merely through thought. It may be generated in other manners besides thought.

ANJULI: That I talk without thinking?

ELIAS: Yes, but you may also be generating a language to yourself or even with other individuals that does not incorporate words. It may be expressed in symbols or in images or actions.

ANJULI: Ah, so that would be another definition of language. So language is not just words...

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: ...it is expressing.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: So when I talk with you or with other people...

ELIAS: This is one form of language.

ANJULI: Do I communicate with other people in energy?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: And that gets translated in language or other expressions of interaction?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: But the translation and the expression of interaction does not have to be to communicate with people, because the interaction is an energy interaction.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: So for example, when I don’t feel like writing emails or doing phone talks with people and also do not meet them physically or whatever, I still could interact with them and they can understand it. They translate it in their way.

ELIAS: Yes. Language is not limited to words and it is not limited to thought. But as I have stated, generally speaking thought is your greatest translating mechanism. Therefore, in receiving language, so to speak, from another individual in their projection of energy, for the most part you do incorporate some translation of that with thought.

ANJULI: For example, I have many experiences, insights or whatever, and very often I feel almost frustrated because it is so intricate. I would not be able to translate everything into a sort of objective communication. I felt almost limited by that and then I discovered after all I am not interacting through the objective communication. So I can express that and it can ripple through?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: So for example, all the many things I experience and about which I will not talk with you in this session will still get shared with others in other ways?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: It feels then partially, as if I translate just a part of what is really happening into language.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, for you are projecting an expression of energy. In that, you express more incorporation of language or communications than merely what is expressed in words and in that one form of expression.

ANJULI: I also had the impression that I was giving too much importance or was paying too much attention to those verbal expressions or objective expressions, and this was partially the reason for some of the confusions.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Because I viewed them to be more real or the only interaction or what.

ELIAS: Yes, you are quite correct.

Now; have you not provided yourself with an example this day in your interaction with Michael of expressing a communication, a language, so to speak, with Michael that was not expressed in words or in what you view as objective interaction? But the communication, the language from the energy projection was received, regardless.

ANJULI: Was this why we both expressed that we were so delighted about that talk? We had a joy, a fun!

ELIAS: Yes, for although you did not express an objective interaction with Michael individually in words, you did project an energy and the communication was received.

ANJULI: You mean when Mary said she knew right away that I have an ease with this change of the fees for the sessions?

ELIAS: Yes. You have offered yourself an example of your question to myself. You have offered yourself an experience to generate a recognition of the reality of what we are discussing.

ANJULI: Oh, thank you for telling me! I somehow had not connected that! (Elias laughs) That’s right! This is so great, Elias, because this was, as you know, going on in me since a few days that I felt that with the change of what I view communication to be, I am so much more free!

ELIAS: I am understanding, for this...

ANJULI: And this also includes my interactions with you.

ELIAS: This allows you a greater freedom in your expressions, recognizing that you are not limited to verbal communications with other individuals and you are not limited to words as the only form of language.

ANJULI: Ah, then this also happened when a while ago my mother still was wanting me to go with her to the graveyard twice a day. I thought if I want to talk with her in objective communications about that, and I did not want to. I just connected with her essence, and on the next day she said she does not need me anymore to go there all the time. She can go there alone.

ELIAS: Correct. The communication, the language, was received regardless of whether you expressed it in the manner of which is most familiar to you.

ANJULI: The same with what Ahmed and I are doing, because we know how the other one feels and know what experiences the other one has — although this also is because of this parallel counterpart action we have. This is the same?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Oh, Elias, that is so great! (Elias laughs) Yes, and everything that is expressed is my objective imagery and the objective imagery is abstract.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Ja, so, Elias, I am exploring objective imagery being abstract. Let’s say I am getting emails from people. And this is not like getting emails from people...

ELIAS: I am understanding.

ANJULI: ...it is my objective imagery, and that is something else.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: I have an interaction with them in energy, but when I look at my objective imagery...

ELIAS: It is a matter of how you configure that. Yes, you are interacting with other individuals in energy expressions, but how you receive those projections of energy and how you configure them is your choice.

ANJULI: Let’s say I create in a day various emails and various interactions in the objective imagery, and then it could be seen like a story, which is different. It is not the same story as if I put all the emails together. It is something else. I do not know how to express that.

ELIAS: I am understanding. Yes, you are correct.

ANJULI: So this is about this abstract imagery, and that imagery is like a dream and has many layers of meaning?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Oh, Elias, sometimes when I felt the objective imagery being abstract, this was such a delightful experience. Then it left me again, but I think I just practice and then I can focus on this more and have the experience more regular.

ELIAS: Yes. You are accomplishing quite well, Myranda.

ANJULI: Elias, is form a belief?

ELIAS: In what capacity?

ANJULI: For example, I think that my room has such and such a size. Is my thinking that this always has to be like that a belief? Or that a chair has a certain form because the one who made the chair made it like that, and therefore it always has the same form — is that a belief?

ELIAS: The belief is associated with the absoluteness, yes — that the room incorporates certain dimensions and that they are solid and unchangeable and therefore absolute.

ANJULI: Ja, because for a while there was my focus Julian Holland moving into me and he explained to me how I can view my room for example, and this was about form.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: So this was what he explained to me or what I felt, because he was in me. That is how they are doing it in the future, so I can do that, too?

ELIAS: Yes, recognizing that your reality is not absolute; therefore, it is flexible and changeable. It is a matter of perception.

Now; as your perception is influenced by a belief of absolutes in association with form, you continue to generate one form for each manifestation, whether it be a room, a chair, a vase or an individual — or yourself. You create one form for yourself, and the influence of the belief in absolutes holds that form firmly in one expression.

ANJULI: I can just look to my beliefs and can start to accept. Then I accept that and then it is neutralized, and then I can have fun!

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Because I am then viewing choices!

ELIAS: Yes.

Now; you do allow yourselves some flexibility with form in relation to yourselves as individuals or with expressions that you deem to be living, for you allow what you believe to be a growth process. Therefore, you also allow for some alteration of the physical form, but that is restricted to limitations.

For generally speaking, the alterations of physical form of living manifestations, or what you term to be living manifestations, are subject to the design of growth in a certain manner. Generally speaking, at any particular age of growth it does not reverse and appear physically younger. Although, this is not to say that this is not possible and that it does not actually occur at times within your reality, if there is an allowance by the individual. But once again, this belief in absolutes is quite strong.

Now; in relation to objects that are not deemed to be living, your rigidity is much stronger.

ANJULI: Then I could, for example, view objects and everything as being consciousness and therefore they are living, and I have a different perception about that.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Well, Elias, I could try that also with dust. Is dust a belief? I don’t want to clean all the time. So, for example, I could view my curtains to be a living entity which is automatically... (Laughs)

ELIAS: (Laughs) Yes, you may!

ANJULI: Oh, that is fun, Elias!

ELIAS: All of your reality, Myranda, is a construct of your perception. Therefore, in altering your perception, you alter the construct.

ANJULI: So when I start to view my objective imagery different, as more flexible and more as abstract imagery and all that as I am starting to do already, and also with this change in how I feel about communication, this feels as if I am becoming a new being.

We talked about this in another session, when I had these dreams about another dimension where the beings there actually can become a totally new being, and then you said this dream is also about the shift. Recently I created various other imageries also around that, using my imagination or translating it as if I am actually REALLY becoming a different being.

ELIAS: I am understanding.

ANJULI: That is what we do in the shift, so to speak? We could say we are other kinds of humans, then.

ELIAS: If you are so choosing, yes. Let me express to you, you may be incorporating an action — which is somewhat a form of a parlor trick — but it also demonstrates the action of the power of perception and openness and allowance to view reality differently.

In this, you may incorporate a small action of generating this playfulness of tipping a table. In that action, as you allow yourself to accomplish it, you shall notice visually that the table becomes less solid, for you may actually view sensory that the table is comprised of links of consciousness, which allows you to view it physically quite differently, as an action rather than a solid form.

ANJULI: So then we can allow ourselves to do some parlor tricks because it would be helping us to give us some information. It is fun and playfulness. Although, in some sort of future when we have this perception already, we would not do that anymore?

ELIAS: Or perhaps you may, in the incorporation of fun. In this situation also it is merely an experiment in playfulness, but also allows you to view your reality slightly differently. For in one moment you may view your table as being quite solid; but in another moment, you may actually view it as moving and not so very solid.

ANJULI: So I could do everything I like just for fun. I could make, for example, my little stuffed blue Pegasus walk around in my room...

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: ...and talk in your voice, for example!

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: (Both laugh) Probably we start to go a little bit through my list of focuses, Elias?

ELIAS: Very well.

ANJULI: I made a list about my past focuses. Partially it was a little bit challenging, because with some of my very past focuses I can’t really clearly feel them. I start with the most earliest one, and we talked about that, that this focus is 15,320 BC. I thought these earliest ones in linear time are my Mayan twin focuses. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: The male one, is his name Winnya-Ta, which means Winged Heart?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Milumet/Milumet, soft, emotional?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: And the female twin, Huanya-Wa, which means Whole Heart?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Milumet/Vold, common, emotional?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Does she fragment later?

ELIAS: In that focus?

ANJULI: Yes.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: I thought Myranda fragmented with the essence Houwl into the essence Nihual, in that focus?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Oh, Elias, I am correct!

ELIAS: (Laughs) And you have surprised yourself!

ANJULI: (Laughing) How do I do that? (Elias laughs) Then the next one would be, probably, a Toltec called Tellaha. Is this correct, a priest and son of a goldsmith?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Milumet/Ilda, soft, thought focused?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Born 12,134?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: The next one — is the seer Narada in India a focus of my essence?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Milumet/Sumafi, intermediate, emotional?

ELIAS: Intermediate, yes, correct.

ANJULI: Born 9835?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: The next one in time probably is Rhianna, in Babylonia. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Milumet/Sumari, soft, religious?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: 5645?

ELIAS: 44. (Laughs) You are generating your variance!

ANJULI: Yes, one year. We had lots of fun with this one year when I posted this to the Eliasfamily. Rhianna is a priestess in the Eanna temple, and this is in the time of the tower of Babel?

ELIAS: Correct. (Both laugh)

ANJULI: Does she also fragment during this focus into the essence Inanna?

ELIAS: Within that time framework but not that particular focus. There is a fragmentation in that time framework, but not of that focus.

ANJULI: What? Another focus of me?

ELIAS: No, not a focus, but there is a fragmentation that occurs in that time framework. But it is not the focus that is fragmenting and generating a new essence.

ANJULI: How can this be, then, in this time framework?

ELIAS: For you are fragmenting continuously, Myranda. This is a natural function of essences.

ANJULI: You mean we can sort of connect a fragmentation with a time framework although it is outside of time?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: And the essence Inanna, did she fragment from Nanaiis, Oona and Myranda?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: (Laughs) Great! (Elias laughs) There is a Germanic goddess called Freya. I think she is a focus. She is not a goddess but a normal being, and she is a focus of me which is in Norway.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Milumet/Gramada, common, emotional.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: 4936.

ELIAS: 35. (Both laugh)

ANJULI: This is just so funny! Is this focus a religious book focus in the chapter about God’s nature or what Margot said in her session?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: I was thinking that probably also this Egyptian goddess Isis could be my focus.

ELIAS: Observing essence.

ANJULI: Then the next one would probably be... The ones in the story of the Iliad, which your focus Homer created, are later?

ELIAS: And your impression?

ANJULI: My first impression was that it was not later.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: I had several impressions around them. (Elias chuckles) I thought I have probably two or even three focuses; they all feel like me. One is Apollo. Is that a focus of my essence?

ELIAS: Observing.

ANJULI: The next would be Thetis, the mother of Achilles.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Yes, she feels very much me-ly. My original impression was that this is 7856 and then I changed that.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And what have you altered?

ANJULI: I have altered it into much later. I have altered it into 1305.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Thetis is Milumet/Tumold, soft, emotional?

ELIAS: I shall clarify, this is a translation. I shall express to you correct, but know that this is a translation. For these families and orientations and focus types are associated with your physical dimension and reality.

ANJULI: She is an other-dimensional being?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: She does not count as a focus?

ELIAS: Ah, but yes, it...

ANJULI: I mean not as a focus in this dimension. But she probably visited it, or how did she create Achilles? (Elias laughs) Oh, fun, Elias! I want to have an other-dimensional focus which visited this dimension and created the son Achilles!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! Let me express to you that these characters, so to speak, are quite real, but they are not associated with your physical dimension.

ANJULI: I mean that is delightful because I had problems with my focus numbers and my focus impressions. (Elias laughs) She does not count as focus number — that is great! (Both laugh) All of those in the story of Homer are counting as like this, like you said, or just those who are gods in that story? Like Achilles, is he really a focus for example, or is he also some sort of other dimensional?

ELIAS: They are all other-dimensional focuses.

ANJULI: Then I can have Orestes as a focus also!

ELIAS: (Elias laughs loudly) Quite fun! I am acknowledging of you, Myranda!

ANJULI: Oh, you are saying yes? (Elias laughs) Oh, Elias, great! That’s great! Elias, this means that many of those stories, goddesses or whatever, some are actual focuses in this dimension, like Freya for example, and some are other-dimensional beings?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: I can look for many other-dimensional beings!

ELIAS: (Laughs) A new exploration!

ANJULI: Oh yes, that’s just so great! (Elias chuckles) Then the next one would be a Navajo with the name Navarro, which means Silverwing. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Milumet/Tumold, common, emotional?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: 4014.

ELIAS: AD?

ANJULI: No, BC.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Then there are probably two more Egyptian focuses. An architect in the time of Cheops with the name Reni?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Milumet/Gramada, common, emotional?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: 2571 BC?

ELIAS: 70.

ANJULI: He was participating in the construction of this pyramid?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: And is a chapter focus in the shift book?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Is the pharaoh Chephren also a focus of my essence?

ELIAS: Observing essence, throughout the entirety of the focus.

ANJULI: There is a god called Re, Ra-Atum, which means evening god. Is that an other-dimensional focus of my essence? Re?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Is this in the dimension which I viewed when I had my out-of-body experience, that dimension?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Oh, great, Elias! (Elias chuckles) That is just so great! Then I have a priestess, also in Egypt, with the name Merit?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Milumet/Vold, soft, religious?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: 2387.

ELIAS: 86.

ANJULI: Funny! Is this the time of Mykerinos? Has he been pharaoh then or...

ELIAS: No.

ANJULI: Another one?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Okay, I will look into that. The next one would be a woman, Zena, in Africa. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Milumet/Borledim, common, emotional?

ELIAS: Political.

ANJULI: 2279?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Is she later coming into a harem of a focus of your essence?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Is he Moona, or another one?

ELIAS: This.

ANJULI: Ah, with Lynda in there?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Great, great, that is fun, Elias! (Both laugh) Then a Norwegian focus, Björn Isgard.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Milumet/Ilda, common, emotional?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: 2198.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Is the prophetess Pythia of Delphi a focus of my essence?

ELIAS: Partial observing essence.

ANJULI: Then is Truvor, also called Torvald, the Viking who is a brother of Rurik, a focus of my essence?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Milumet/Vold, common, emotional?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: 823.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Taro, a focus in North Africa, in Carthage?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Milumet/Ilda, common, emotional?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: 647?

ELIAS: Six.

ANJULI: Is he sort of traveling and making charts together with a male focus of you? You are probably a sailor or are trading something.

ELIAS: Correct, temporarily.

ANJULI: Temporarily he is with you.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Is Myron of Greece, the sculptor in Athens, a focus of my essence?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Milumet/Sumari, common, emotional?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: 487.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Then Mairie, written like Fairy, in Ireland, a Celtic priestess?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Milumet/Ilda, soft, religious?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: 103.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: She has a brother with the name Ardanos who is a focus of the essence Arkandin?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: And she is the one doing the teleportation from the sinking ship to the Norwegian coast?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Then Leyla, an Inuit?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Milumet/Borledim, common, emotional?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Year 12.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Then there is only the question if there is one more focus in Judea, a female one.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Maria? Is this a focus of me that is fragmenting — Myranda with Inashaan...

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

ANJULI: ...into Sheen?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Milumet/Borledim, soft, emotional.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: The fragmentation happened probably when she was 25 or something like that?

ELIAS: Approximately, yes; you are correct.

ANJULI: Okay, we are done with the focuses which were before Christ! (Both laugh) I have not so many doubts with the later ones, but I will go with you through them also.

ELIAS: Very well.

ANJULI: (Laughs) Are we done with our hour? I decided to always ask these funny questions when I read that in many of my sessions! Oh, Elias, I love you so much! It is SUCH a joy to talk with you!

ELIAS: And I express the same to yourself myself, my friend. (Both laugh)

ANJULI: Oh, that is so great! Of course I am continuing to practice in my various interactions with you, the one in which I translate you into form and other ones when I just hear your voice! We all can do that, ja?

ELIAS: Yes, you are quite correct.

ANJULI: Ja, and we probably want to do this very much and want to use the sessions... I talked with Mary about that, and probably we can do this much better now and so we do not only use the sessions for that!

ELIAS: Correct, which is the point, is it not? To be directing of yourselves and to be trusting yourselves in your choices and in your movement, that you do offer yourselves information, and that as you continue to practice and express that trust within yourselves, it becomes unnecessary to be seeking information outside of yourselves.

And let me express to you, in this I may be reminding you — as I am aware that you also communicate with many other individuals that it may remind them also — that these choices and expressions are not as black and white as they appear, for we have established interactions with each other quite purposefully in the direction of inquiries and responses from myself, but in that process we have also generated friendships, have we not?

ANJULI: Yes.

ELIAS: Which transcend physical reality. Therefore, although eventually many of you shall not deem it necessary to be expressing inquiries of myself, this is not to say that we shall not continue to be interactive.

ANJULI: So it is now a time when we are much more aware of our other types of interactions and therefore use the sessions in a bit different way. We are much more paying attention to our various avenues of communication and we do not have to go with you through them, and also we have much more an ease in translating our communication with you into a new kind of objective communication.

ELIAS: Correct. And we continue to express interaction with each other in this manner also, for it generates an avenue of fun.

ANJULI: Yes, it does! Anyway we want to plant our own money trees or we want to get rid of the monetary system, anyway!

ELIAS: (Laughs) Hear hear, my friend!

ANJULI: (Laughs) Oh, Elias, that’s great. I am so happy. I did not know how the session is going to be and now I know it! (Elias laughs) That was great!

ELIAS: Very well, my dear friend. I shall be anticipating our next objective interaction in language and I shall be offering my expression of playfulness with you in the interim time framework.

ANJULI: Yes, Elias! Thank you so very much, and much love from my mother!

ELIAS: To you both, my friends, tremendous affection and acknowledgment.

ANJULI: Thank you, Elias!

ELIAS: In great lovingness, Myranda, au revoir.

ANJULI: Au revoir!

Elias departs at 10:03 AM.