Session 1227


“Questions about Alzheimer’s Disease”
“Lots of Impressions”

Saturday, December 28, 2002 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Anjuli (Myranda)

Elias arrives at 1:50 PM. (Arrival time is 25 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good day!

ANJULI: Hello, Elias! It is so great to talk with you, Elias. I created a non-session a few days ago. (Elias chuckles) Today I am feeling much more playful. At that day, I really felt a bit challenged, so I am really almost glad that I created this session today.

ELIAS: Very well! (Laughs)

ANJULI: I think this is going to be an impressions session, asking you about lots of impressions.

ELIAS: Very well.

ANJULI: First, I would like to ask you about such a funny experience I had. That was maybe before the last session, in the first days after we had created the group that we call the Eliasfamily. I have been online with my computer and had the Internet Explorer running, and the Internet Explorer, at that time I had instructed it to start with the Eliasfamily website at Yahoo groups. Then I closed the Internet Explorer, went offline and I left my room, and then I heard the computer going online again by itself, and I went back and I saw that the Internet Explorer also had started by itself and had been going online by itself. It started not with the Eliasfamily website but with the Elias website of Gerhard, the website which has all your sessions there. (Elias laughs) Did you do that?

ELIAS: (Laughs) And you already know the answer to this question!

ANJULI: Ja! Oh, Elias, that was SUCH a fun. I really had not thought that a computer can do something like that. I mean, that was really such a fun. After all, you did that. I saw by that that I can manipulate my computer, too, in all kinds of amazing ways.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And so you may!

ANJULI: Oh, Elias, that was so playful, so I thought a little bit of playfulness of Dunadin and Patel has been there also?

ELIAS: Yes. A gentle reminder to be continuing to incorporate fun.

ANJULI: Oh yes! Oh great, Elias. Yes, I think we now probably start with a few questions for other people?

ELIAS: Very well.

ANJULI: First, I would like to ask some questions for my mother, Gertrud/Birdeet. She has three questions to you.

ELIAS: Proceed.

ANJULI: The questions are about my father who is in hospital now and underwent a surgery. His Alzheimer disease is now affecting in a way that he cannot really move anymore, or he is very strongly subjectively focused. He looks as if he is in a state similar to a waking coma.

ELIAS: I am understanding.

ANJULI: Yes, and my mom has three questions about that. Her first question is, is he from time to time a little bit objectively aware of her presence? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: This is not always, it is just from time to time?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Okay. He has difficulties in breathing and she would like to know how much he is objectively experiencing the pain in his body, for example the difficulties in breathing. Or is he for most of the time not so much connected with his body so that he is not so much experiencing this difficulty?

ELIAS: His attention is not objectively focused in relation to the functioning of the body consciousness, therefore, in your terms, is unaware of an expression of pain.

ANJULI: Oh, Elias, my mother will be so happy to hear that!

ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, pain is an objective assessment of a particular manifestation within the body consciousness, and it is strongly associated with beliefs that influence perception. Therefore, it is quite relative.

In this, individuals that may be quite objectively focused and holding their attention with the objective awareness may be generating certain manifestations within the body consciousness and not necessarily perceive them as painful, whereas another individual may generate the same type of manifestation and incorporate a perception of tremendous painfulness.

Now; in this, this individual, your parent, is not moving his attention to the objective awareness in relation to the physical body consciousness and what is being manifest within it. There is an awareness subjectively in communication with the body consciousness to be directing it in specific manners in association with disengagement in an acceptable manner, in relation to his beliefs and in relation to the beliefs of the family. But as to experiencing discomfort or painfulness, I may express to you, he is not.

ANJULI: Oh, Elias, this is great. Then he probably was also not experiencing pain in the hours before the surgery was done, because when I saw him, his face did not look as if he had pain.

ELIAS: Correct. Let me express to you also, this is the powerfulness of attention and how you move attention. I may express to you quite literally, an individual may be within physical focus and may incorporate a manifestation of breaking a bone or incorporating a wound from a knife and may not feel any physical discomfort, dependant upon where they are directing their attention.

If you are directing your attention in different manners and occupying your attention fully enough, you may generate any type of action physically that you would naturally expect to be feeling physical painfulness and you shall not necessarily feel any physical affectingness, dependant upon your attention.

ANJULI: Oh, that is probably what they are sometimes doing in the Far East, in India, when they put needles into their body or walk through fire and they don’t experience pain.

ELIAS: Correct, and in similar manner, he is not experiencing the physical feeling of any discomfort, for his attention is not focused upon the physical body consciousness.

ANJULI: Yes, but he is sometimes aware of the presence of my mother, which has after all nothing to do with the body, and so he may use a bit of an objective awareness for to...

ELIAS: Correct, in similar manner to any of you within your physical reality in time frameworks and experiences in which you may be incorporating a sleep state and another individual may present themselves in close physical proximity to you. You shall incorporate an awareness of the presence of the energy of the other individual, regardless of whether you are incorporating an objective attention in the type of expression that you engage in waking state. Individuals are continuously aware of energy.

There is a continuation of the objective awareness. The attention in relation to the objective awareness is not focused in association with his physical environment that his manifestation occupies, but this is not to say that he has disengaged the objective awareness yet. Even subsequent to disengagement, individuals do not immediately disengage the objective awareness. It continues for what you term to be a time framework. But in this, he continues to incorporate an awareness of individual’s energy expressions and their presence.

ANJULI: Her third question is related to that. In the night before he was brought to hospital, they have been undergoing lots of conflict with each other. My mother was reacting in the way she is sometimes reacting, but this time he seemed to be desperate and asked, “My heavenly father, help me!” or something like that, and so this was a situation in an extreme. My mother had strong feelings of guilt afterwards and she was unhappy. She was addressing to her beliefs a lot, and she was becoming aware of her judgments and she felt sorry for that.

She is undergoing lots of conflict in this, and then when we brought him into hospital, there was an objective communication between them and she asked him to forgive her, and he said yes and then wanted to add something but couldn’t. The question of my mother is if he has forgiven her.

ELIAS: Yes, but let me also express that he incorporates an awareness that in actuality it is unnecessary to be offering forgiveness. He has incorporated that expression or that term in a recognition of her expression and her sorrow. In actuality, he has offered her an expression of acceptance.

For, the expression of forgiveness implies that another individual has wronged you in some manner, and there is an awareness that she has not generated that action. In this, she has expressed herself in her frustration and perhaps incorporated an intention in her energy to attempt to be partially hurtful, but it matters not for the energy was not received in that manner. His perception was very different from her perception. Her perception was of conflict and struggle and hurtfulness. His perception was quite different, and in that perception, in his reality, he was not incorporating conflict with her. Therefore, there is an acceptance which is being expressed rather than a forgiveness, in actuality.

ANJULI: So when he said yes and then wanted to add something, he wanted to express, “Yes, but there is nothing to forgive”?

ELIAS: Correct, for he has not been wronged.

ANJULI: Yes. Thank you, Elias.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

ANJULI: I tried to feel the focus numbers of my parents, of their essences. Does Quan Ti, my father, have 923 focuses?

ELIAS: Nine hundred twenty-two.

ANJULI: And my mother, Birdeet, 864?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: When we talked about their lives, they both always said they do not want to have another life after disengagement; so that is their expression of experiencing being a final focus?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Both of them?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Then we move on to a few other questions. Is Ludovica, the mother of my focus Empress Sisi of Austria, is this a focus of Sandel?

ELIAS: No.

ANJULI: Is the focus color of Ahmed brilliant purple?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Is the close Internet friend of Ricanna, Joe R, does he have a focus as Franz Salvator, the husband of her focus as Valerie Marie, the daughter of Sisi?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Are Louis Comfort Tiffany and the composer Jule Styne focuses of Sandel?

ELIAS: The latter, yes.

ANJULI: And the first not?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Then there are two individuals who have impressions around Maria Romanov, the sister of my focus Tatjana Romanov, and of Anastasia and Olga. Daryl/Ashrah would like to ask if Maria Romanov is a focus of her essence.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Then this means that this friend of Seale is a focus of Ashrah, a present one?

ELIAS: Fragmented.

ANJULI: This friend of Seale has fragmented from Ashrah?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Carter/Cynthia too felt some relationship to Maria Romanov, that he could either be observing essence or he could be Alexandra, the mother of Maria Romanov?

ELIAS: And I shall express to you all to be investigating!

ANJULI: Oh! We’ll continue to be investigating! So he is not observing essence to Maria Romanov?

ELIAS: I express to you, pool your energies and investigate.

ANJULI: Okay, I will tell them.

ELIAS: Become more clear in your impressions.

ANJULI: Pat/Fryolla feels she is probably a dispersed essence. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Ah. And we have the impression that Ferdinand Max, the brother of Emperor Franz Joseph of Austria, is a focus of Fryolla. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Ah, here we are correct. Then there is a friend of mine, Hermann Z, he would like to know his essence name.

ELIAS: Very well. (Pause) Essence name, Assaand, A-S-S-A-A-N-D.

ANJULI: Ah, very interesting, yes. He has the impression that he is Sumafi belonging and Milumet aligned.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: And soft and emotional.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI. Thank you. Does Eliantan have 2233 focuses? (Pause)

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Is he soft and religious focused? (Pause)

ELIAS: Common, emotional.

ANJULI: They feel maybe different in the future. Does he feel to be soft because the common orientation are expressing their orientation a bit differently than now? They have more the attention on self and...?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Thelma feels to have a focus in the 11:11 dimension and feels the translation of the tone of that focus would be the name Ariel. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Then we now go to the Dreamwalker question. We were trying to feel what our Dreamwalkers are doing. We are very interested in that, Elias. I had a sort of not really confusing impression, but when I felt into my Dreamwalker I was not sure if that is one Dreamwalker or if I have three Dreamwalkers, or if I felt into my Dreamwalker and two Dreamwalkers that felt “me-ly” to me because they are from my fragmenting essences of me. So the question is do I have three Dreamwalkers?

ELIAS: No, but what you are tapping into is a recognition of that aspect in other individuals within your expressed group.

ANJULI: Ah, I see, okay. So we have always one Dreamwalker?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: And the Dreamwalker always has the same essence family as our focuses here have?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Can the tone of my Dreamwalker be translated as Andrian? (Pause)

ELIAS: No ending N.

ANJULI: Andria?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Does your Dreamwalker have a tone which can be translated as the name Tatumis?

ELIAS: No, this is associated with another individual within your expressed group.

ANJULI: Oh, that is going to be interesting, Elias!

ELIAS: (Laughs) You do offer yourself many opportunities for playfulness, do you not?

ANJULI: Yes, I see, I see! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! You have generated a great game!

ANJULI: That’s a great game. Oh, Elias! I had the feeling that my Dreamwalker had been participating in the creating of water with seashore imageries. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Partially, yes.

ANJULI: Yes, and is my Dreamwalker doing this together with other Dreamwalkers and the Dreamwalkers of Fontine and Ashrah?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Ja, they had these kind of impressions. He is doing this water imagery because for my Dreamwalker this is a Milumet imagery because of the vastness, for people who stand on shores and look to the water. The ocean is the ocean of consciousness and the vastness of essence, so this is a Milumet imagery for my Dreamwalker?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Yes. And then my Dreamwalker was also participating in the creating of birds? (Pause)

ELIAS: Not precisely.

ANJULI: Is this more an Ilda imagery?

ELIAS: No. This would be more associated with Borledim.

ANJULI: I think for now I will continue to feel into my Dreamwalker and what else he is doing. But they are, for example, also creating our belief systems?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: So it is not only about the objective, the physical imagery, the earth and everything. Everything in our dimension is created by our Dreamwalkers?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Ah. Okay, thank you.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) You are quite welcome.

ANJULI: I continue to feel into that. And I have more future focus impressions, Elias, for you.

ELIAS: Very well.

ANJULI: Is the birthday of my focus Ennio Elban July 21, 2005? (Pause)

ELIAS: More future. The day is correct, the month is correct, the year is more future.

ANJULI: I thought I connect with him in the year 2027. So is this then the birth year?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: My focus Marie Waldner, I felt for her that the month and day is September 22?

ELIAS: September 12.

ANJULI: And the year is 2010? (Pause)

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: I had the day and month of Chantal Liberte right but not the year. Now I think the year is 2017.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Now we come to three focuses which I felt to be in the same time framework. Is the name of one Julian Holland?

ELIAS: In which time framework?

ANJULI: Julian Holland would be around the time ... I got the birth year 2058. So they would be shift focuses.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

ANJULI: And the birthday is January 3?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Then there is another focus, one a little bit later, with the name Lisa Marie Winter?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: And that would be June 23?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: 2061?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: I tried to feel into this story, but she feels to me as if she is probably a half-sister or something of Julian Holland. So she is at first not aware that he is her brother and later gets aware of that?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Yes, and then I felt my focus Ronja Robin too is included into that story of those two focuses, and I had the feeling that as a baby she was called Lena Marie. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: And then something happened ... so she is a sister of Lisa Marie Winter, but was separated from her as a baby?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: I had the impression that probably she was not adopted but the mother who she thought to be her mother has kidnapped her as a baby. She just took that baby so that it would be her baby?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Oh yes, I feel into this story! Later she discovers that Julian and Lisa Marie are her siblings.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: And the birthday, is this July 11? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: 2063?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Oh, interesting, Elias! Okay, these are all shift focuses. My Windsor focus also is a shift focus, being born within the shift.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Then I got the birthday for Andre Demre. Is that September 9?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: 2109?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: And Myr van Anderson, March 15?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: 2110?

ELIAS: Eleven.

ANJULI: My focus in Sweden, Jana Pittsburgh, is her birthday June 21?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: 2190?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Hah, Elias, and I thought I can’t feel into time frameworks! (Elias laughs) Oh, that’s great! Then my focus Nathan Forrester, is he from the USA?

ELIAS: Originally.

ANJULI: And his birthday is September 9?

ELIAS: November.

ANJULI: Oh, November 9 is also nice. 2222?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Yes, an eleven number — you see, lots of eleven numbers. I feel that he got visited by my 11:11 focus. (Elias laughs) Sounds quite like that! Andrea Bergeron, we had her already. Okay, then the next focus. Is his name Julian LeGrande?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Birthday October 12?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: 2363? (Pause)

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Then in linear time, the next upcoming focus would be in my impression Katie Shelly, so Shelly Shore. I had the impression that her birthday is December 17.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: 2417?

ELIAS: Sixteen, yes.

ANJULI: Then I have the feeling of a focus who is, in my impression, living in Australia, but her parents or one of her parents would be from India. Probably I first ask about her name. There was the impression that her name is Ann Julia Montana Day or Montana Dayo. The second name would probably from her father or her mother, an Indian sort of name.

ELIAS: The latter is correct.

ANJULI: Montana not, just Dayo?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Is her name Ann Julia or is it this Indian name that I take in this focus as Anjuli? Well, she could have the name Ann Julia and could call herself Anjuli or Anjulia.

ELIAS: Referring to self as Anjulia, but the actual name is Ann Jule.

ANJULI: Ann Jule, ah, interesting, Elias. Jule, J-U-L-E?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Ah, interesting. Okay, and she is in Australia or living for big parts of her life in Australia or something?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Is there some influence of India from one parent?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: And the other parent Australia or Italy?

ELIAS: Australia.

ANJULI: The birthday would be July 12?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: 2420?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Then the next focus — does she have the name Aimee Liberte?

ELIAS: First name correct, second name no.

ANJULI: A French name?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: And she is born July 7?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: 2555?

ELIAS: Fifty-four.

ANJULI: I had a few spaceship dreams. She has experiences of flying in a spaceship?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: I will probably ask you in more detail in another session about those dreams I had and what she is doing.

ELIAS: Very well.

ANJULI: Ja, and then we have one focus left, and I think that is the latest one I have. My impression was that his name is Ronin Swanson?

ELIAS: Owen.

ANJULI: With a W?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: In Norway? From Norway?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: May 1?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: 2702?

ELIAS: One. Ha ha ha! Let me express to you, are you noticing a pattern that you generate in association with your impressions and what you, in your terms, express as feeling into these focuses?

ANJULI: A pattern?

ELIAS: Yes. Many times you recognize the energy of an individual once it has been manifest for a year.

ANJULI: Oh. (Elias laughs) Oh, that is why there often is one year earlier, no, later...

ELIAS: Correct. For you are...

ANJULI: Oh ja, I see!

ELIAS: You are feeling into the energy as the individual is physically manifest and has generated a type of energy signature.

ANJULI: Oh! (Elias laughs) Oh, that’s interesting, Elias. Oh, Elias, look — all my many future focuses. Isn’t that fun? And then later I will feel into all of their alignments and colors! (Elias chuckles) But Andre Demre, is he Zuli aligned?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: And Myr, I have a little bit difficulties with him. His alignment could be Vold or Sumari.

ELIAS: Vold.

ANJULI: Oh ja, Vold, that is his unusualness. Okay, for now we stop... No, Elias, we talked about me creating a splinter, that I could create a splinter of my focus.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Well, since I start to feel my story, I am not sure, maybe she is created meanwhile?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: I got a birthday for her — February 22?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: 2122, or one year earlier.

ELIAS: Correct, 21! Ha ha ha ha!

ANJULI: 2121.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Oh, Elias, and of course I wanted that splinter to have the name Runi Elwing. Hopefully she has that. I tried my best with this splinter, to put her into an Elwing family.

ELIAS: Ha ha! I am understanding, but alter the naming of Runi to Roni.

ANJULI: With an O.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Oh ja, but of course she also has a story, Elias. I don’t have to tell you that. Okay, that is too exciting. I will continue to be investigating and talking about that story later. What is the time about our session? Do we have a few minutes?

ELIAS: You may incorporate another question.

ANJULI: One of my current focuses, probably the Nepalese focus, did she fragment? I had the feeling probably that one of my current focuses fragmented.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Well, it could be the Nepalese one or another one. Is it the Nepalese one?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Ah. Okay, Elias, then the next time I will ask you about the new essence of her.

ELIAS: Very well.

ANJULI: Is the new essence tone Renan?

ELIAS: No.

ANJULI: No, okay. I will investigate that.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! Very well.

ANJULI: If I continue to create an allowance then we have a session soon, Elias, again.

ELIAS: Very well, I shall be anticipating our interaction and playfulness.

ANJULI: And I will have many more impressions.

ELIAS: Very well, and continue to be playful, and you may also express my supportiveness to your parent.

ANJULI: Oh, thank you very much, Elias.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome. I shall be anticipating our next conversation, and I shall continue to be playful with you.

ANJULI: Yes! Elias, I love you very much.

ELIAS: And I express tremendous love and affection for you also, my friend. Until our next meeting, au revoir.

ANJULI: Yes, au revoir, Elias.

Elias departs at 2:47 PM.